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Post by Tom on Feb 25, 2020 11:03:59 GMT -5
Also, not everything connected to Holy Cross is a "conspiracy." Excluding the exorcism room in Fenwick
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Post by Tom on Feb 25, 2020 11:48:45 GMT -5
What matters most is the actions of the coach show to a great degree (not beyond reasonable doubt, I won't go that far) that he doesn't think the player can contribute to what he is trying to do. But I agree the college is being oversensitive about this kind of stuff. Seems to have started with the previous coach. In any case, the other 3 ongoing mysteries (Copeland, Faulkner, Coach Park) are more upsetting to me. I am not familiar with the Faulkner mystery
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Post by classof83 on Feb 25, 2020 11:51:57 GMT -5
I know the defense is bad, but does anyone else think the offense has regressed as well?
From my view I am seeing less organization to the offense and no discipline. I know there is no point guard, but I see more and more guys trying to do too much on their own and a lot less sharing of the basketball. Even if it fails I would like to see some purpose in the offense
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 25, 2020 12:05:18 GMT -5
What matters most is the actions of the coach show to a great degree (not beyond reasonable doubt, I won't go that far) that he doesn't think the player can contribute to what he is trying to do. But I agree the college is being oversensitive about this kind of stuff. Seems to have started with the previous coach. In any case, the other 3 ongoing mysteries (Copeland, Faulkner, Coach Park) are more upsetting to me. I am not familiar with the Faulkner mystery The Faulkner mystery is not "The Grapes of Wrath" or "Of Mice and Men," it is the unexplained absence of WBB player Janay Faulkner for the last two games. To completely err on the side of caution, Nancy Sinatra's "These Boots are made for Walking" has been banned for use as pre-game music for M&W BB at the Hart.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Feb 25, 2020 12:15:08 GMT -5
I know the defense is bad, but does anyone else think the offense has regressed as well? From my view I am seeing less organization to the offense and no discipline. I know there is no point guard, but I see more and more guys trying to do too much on their own and a lot less sharing of the basketball. Even if it fails I would like to see some purpose in the offense '83, I would tend to agree. In general, the last couple of games seem to have produced some overall slippage in competitiveness. It does seem like to a certain extent, guys are trying to do too much on their own offensively. I'd have to think it is largely a by product of overflowing frustration. It's been pretty visible with MF lately. Can't say I blame them at this point.
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 25, 2020 12:16:09 GMT -5
I know the defense is bad, but does anyone else think the offense has regressed as well? From my view I am seeing less organization to the offense and no discipline. I know there is no point guard, but I see more and more guys trying to do too much on their own and a lot less sharing of the basketball. Even if it fails I would like to see some purpose in the offense Agree. These last few games are a rare and perfect opportunity for the players and coach to relax and execute offensive and defensive schemes so the play looks disciplined regardless of what the score is. Maybe then make a run at the number seven team in the PLT opening round - still without feeling any pressure. If that game is an upset then they are playing with house money so there should be no more pressure the rest of the season. Expectations of the Faithful are well under control. But of course ready to be ignited by a single win.
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Post by hcpride on Feb 25, 2020 12:20:25 GMT -5
/\ I agree. Notwithstanding the desire of some folks to see improvement where none exists, it was painfully obvious that this 30-point blowout game v Colgate was far more lopsided than our previous game v Colgate.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Feb 25, 2020 12:22:00 GMT -5
Statistically, the last three games have produced the worst stretch of offense in the entire season.
The team looks exhausted, mentally and physically - how could they not be?
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Post by Tom on Feb 25, 2020 12:24:48 GMT -5
I am not familiar with the Faulkner mystery The Faulkner mystery is not "The Grapes of Wrath" or "Of Mice and Men," it is the unexplained absence of WBB player Janay Faulkner for the last two games. To completely err on the side of caution, Nancy Sinatra's "These Boots are made for Walking" has been banned for use as pre-game music for M&W BB at the Hart. I don't follow the ladies that closely, so this might be a foolish question, but is there anyone who would normally explain the absence? On the men's side, I happened to be running a little late to Hart one day and heard about 5 minutes of pre-game on WEEI when either Dick Lutz or Coach Nelson being interviewed by Lutz said that Copeland was taking an indefinite leave of absence for personal reasons. Maybe not to our satisfaction, but it was explained. Is there anything like that on the women's side? Does Coach Mac have a regular interview somewhere? For what it's worth, if I hadn't been running late one day, I wouldn't even have that much first hand information on Copeland With zero knowledge and pure speculation, as MA is going through a second wave of flu, an illness would be my first guess, especially if we're only talking about a few days absence.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 25, 2020 12:25:18 GMT -5
Disagree.with the above comments on recent games. The offensive patterns are the same. Most of the shots, bad ones or good, come from the movement. Sure Joe does a fair amount of one on one after the initial movement, but he has to. There is no other reliable scorer, esp in the games Austin was out. The biggest differences between recent games and earlier are no point guard, and defenses doubling and sometimes triple teaming Joe, understandably.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Feb 25, 2020 12:25:18 GMT -5
I think the guys had held it together just about as well as you could have hoped, given everything that's happened.....but the injury to AB had to be a real kick in the jewels to the collective psyche of the team. It's one thing if you've got guys on the shelf that you are expecting back to save the day...….they look around and see no help arriving - this year.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Feb 25, 2020 12:34:10 GMT -5
Statistically, the last three games have produced the worst stretch of offense in the entire season. The team looks exhausted, mentally and physically - how could they not be? It really does seem that just about everyone has checked out and is ready for the offseason to begin.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 25, 2020 12:37:22 GMT -5
Statistically, the last three games have produced the worst stretch of offense in the entire season. The team looks exhausted, mentally and physically - how could they not be? It really does seem that just about everyone has checked out and is ready for the offseason to begin. Totally disagree. The total lack of talent and depth vs the opposition is the reality, not any lack of effort from coaches or players Certainly there are occasional lapses in concentration, but that is normal result of frustration at the end of a long, losing season with many, many obstacles to any success.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Feb 25, 2020 12:42:19 GMT -5
To clarify my position, I don't think the guys have mailed it in at all...…..but they wouldn't be human if they weren't completely frustrated at this moment. Just for me, the AB injury was so symbolic of the season - kid plays out of position out of absolute necessity; does about as well as can be expected.....but, the losses keep coming, and then he gets hurt to boot.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Feb 25, 2020 12:44:55 GMT -5
I thought we were going through the motions, despite lack of talent and depth, for good chunks of the Bucknell and Colgate games.
The second half of Colgate was roll the ball out there NBA All Star game style.
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Post by timholycross on Feb 25, 2020 12:46:14 GMT -5
The Faulkner mystery is not "The Grapes of Wrath" or "Of Mice and Men," it is the unexplained absence of WBB player Janay Faulkner for the last two games. To completely err on the side of caution, Nancy Sinatra's "These Boots are made for Walking" has been banned for use as pre-game music for M&W BB at the Hart. I don't follow the ladies that closely, so this might be a foolish question, but is there anyone who would normally explain the absence? On the men's side, I happened to be running a little late to Hart one day and heard about 5 minutes of pre-game on WEEI when either Dick Lutz or Coach Nelson being interviewed by Lutz said that Copeland was taking an indefinite leave of absence for personal reasons. Maybe not to our satisfaction, but it was explained. Is there anything like that on the women's side? Does Coach Mac have a regular interview somewhere? For what it's worth, if I hadn't been running late one day, I wouldn't even have that much first hand information on Copeland With zero knowledge and pure speculation, as MA is going through a second wave of flu, an illness would be my first guess, especially if we're only talking about a few days absence. If she is present and accounted for tomorrow, the flu is a possible explanation and in terms at least of my own curiosity, enough for me to stop asking. If she's not there, I'd say that's not the problem; it will have been 3 games missed and kids in superior physical condition don't have the flu that long.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Feb 25, 2020 12:47:15 GMT -5
Steinbeck, not Faulkner.
Carry on.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 25, 2020 12:49:30 GMT -5
I thought we were going through the motions, despite lack of talent and depth, for good chunks of the Bucknell and Colgate games. The second half of Colgate was roll the ball out there NBA All Star game style. Again, totally disagree. little talent, no depth. colgate’s superior talent and depth inevitably won out. (the fourth quarter of the All Star game was very competitive)
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Post by rgs318 on Feb 25, 2020 12:50:33 GMT -5
SoV, You may well be correct. I look at this a bit differently. After giving 100% for so long without seeing wins, the team may simply be tired (emotionally and physically). They are still giving it their all, but they may simply have less to "give" at this point. I never see these guys as simply "going through the motions?" but that may simply be my Purple Lenses.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Feb 25, 2020 12:55:17 GMT -5
Back in his blogging days (I wish that website was still around), RW gave some great commentary on the difficulties in trying to run practices during the latter part of the season. Players have been going at it for five months now, and it becomes increasingly difficult to spend much time practicing at full speed unless you want to completely run your team into the ground.
Those issues are exponentially more difficult to manage with a roster like our current one with no depth whatsoever, and then having to play two freshmen (who have never even come close to the amount of game and practice time that they have put in over the last five months) for 35+ minutes per game.
The idea that Nelson could just install some magical new defense and offense in January or February is just silly.
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Post by hcgrad94 on Feb 25, 2020 13:26:54 GMT -5
In what world does any CEO talk about personnel matters, and in the case of scholarships compensation, in a public forum? People have to PAY to watch the team perform. And schollie players are, in effect, paid $280K+ to perform. The coach has been paid in the past $300K+/yr to perform. The media are profit-making, both TV3 and the PL Network on Stadium via fees and advertising. Bus companies and airlines are paid to provide transportation. The venture is a quasi commercial activity. That makes it a public venture. E.g., the coach could tell us how many schollies there now are without naming names, etc. He could talk in a little more detail about the teams performance and his schemes, etc. without naming names instead of repeating platitudes. Has to be a top-down, Papal conspiracy in there somewhere.
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Post by efg72 on Feb 25, 2020 14:07:27 GMT -5
I know the defense is bad, but does anyone else think the offense has regressed as well? From my view I am seeing less organization to the offense and no discipline. I know there is no point guard, but I see more and more guys trying to do too much on their own and a lot less sharing of the basketball. Even if it fails I would like to see some purpose in the offense I am probably wrong here but... While we don’t have a point guard, we don’t run much of an offense save a high screen weave and roll to the basket with an occasional ball reversal to the wing/corner. Our movement without the ball is rare and the defenses are dropping off to support against any of our players trying to get to the hole, especially if that is Pridgen or Butler slashing. When we try and isolate Pridgen or Butler we have others in or near the lane forcing them to make a great move to score or they turn the ball over. I would like to see a few screens for Wade and others to catch and shoot as opposed to flat footed three’s.
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 25, 2020 15:46:05 GMT -5
Steinbeck, not Faulkner. Carry on. I'm getting old and confused😋
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Post by sarasota on Feb 25, 2020 18:37:53 GMT -5
People have to PAY to watch the team perform. And schollie players are, in effect, paid $280K+ to perform. The coach has been paid in the past $300K+/yr to perform. The media are profit-making, both TV3 and the PL Network on Stadium via fees and advertising. Bus companies and airlines are paid to provide transportation. The venture is a quasi commercial activity. That makes it a public venture. E.g., the coach could tell us how many schollies there now are without naming names, etc. He could talk in a little more detail about the teams performance and his schemes, etc. without naming names instead of repeating platitudes. Has to be a top-down, Papal conspiracy in there somewhere. Sarcasm is cheap, easy and not usually amusing.
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Post by hcgrad94 on Feb 25, 2020 18:42:01 GMT -5
So is uninformed and misplaced paranoia
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