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Post by lou on Dec 28, 2021 13:52:12 GMT -5
Well if you're putting in place requirements for a new attendance policy for Jan, 2022 you might as well include a booster shot too
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Post by mm67 on Dec 28, 2021 15:41:42 GMT -5
Not a bad thing at all. I don't even know what charity the Fenway Bowl benefits, if any. Charity??? It just fills ESPN's TV schedule with programing. Bingo!
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 28, 2021 16:31:31 GMT -5
"America's most beloved bowl game" is 0-2. Three strikes and it's out.
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Post by hcpride on Dec 28, 2021 21:26:06 GMT -5
Covid protocols snag another team and cancel another bowl game:
"The UCLA football team is unable to participate in tonight's San Diego County Credit Union Holiday Bowl due to COVID-19 protocols within the Bruins' program," UCLA football's verified Twitter account wrote in a tweet.
"Heartbroken to not be able to compete one more time this season," NC State wrote in a tweet. "We were informed a short time ago that our opponent would be unable to play this evening."
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Post by hcpride on Dec 29, 2021 9:25:54 GMT -5
Last week the NFL wisely stopped the asymptomatic testing of its players (thus limiting the number of players netted into its Covid protocols). This week they are safely reducing the isolation time of Covid-positive players (vaccinated and unvaccinated) from 10 days to 5 if asymptomatic. And allowing some some vaccinated players who test positive to come back as quick as one day after the positive test (if they register two PCR tests that are either negative or have a CT (cycle threshold) of 35 or greater). One imagines these common-sense adjustments might have preserved the bowl matchups for certain schools. This could have a direct and immediate impact on several teams ahead of Week 17. For example, Colts quarterback Carson Wentz, who is unvaccinated, would've been forced out of Sunday's game against the Raiders without an adjustment to the protocols. Now, if he proves asymptomatic, he could still be available. Buccaneers coach Bruce Arians, meanwhile, just tested positive for COVID on Tuesday, but the reduced isolation window could improve his chances of returning in time for Tampa Bay's Week 17 matchup with the Jets.www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-nflpa-adopt-new-covid-19-protocols-reduce-required-isolation-time-to-five-days-for-positive-players/
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Post by timholycross on Dec 29, 2021 13:20:38 GMT -5
'twould be a lot worse for Indy w/o their knockout running game if Wentz is out. Wentz completed all of 5 passes against the Pats two weeks ago, indoors w/no wind.
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 29, 2021 13:27:58 GMT -5
Last week the NFL wisely stopped the asymptomatic testing of its players (thus limiting the number of players netted into its Covid protocols). This week they are safely reducing the isolation time of Covid-positive players (vaccinated and unvaccinated) from 10 days to 5 if asymptomatic. And allowing some some vaccinated players who test positive to come back as quick as one day after the positive test (if they register two PCR tests that are either negative or have a CT (cycle threshold) of 35 or greater). One imagines these common-sense adjustments might have preserved the bowl matchups for certain schools. This could have a direct and immediate impact on several teams ahead of Week 17. For example, Colts quarterback Carson Wentz, who is unvaccinated, would've been forced out of Sunday's game against the Raiders without an adjustment to the protocols. Now, if he proves asymptomatic, he could still be available. Buccaneers coach Bruce Arians, meanwhile, just tested positive for COVID on Tuesday, but the reduced isolation window could improve his chances of returning in time for Tampa Bay's Week 17 matchup with the Jets.www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/nfl-nflpa-adopt-new-covid-19-protocols-reduce-required-isolation-time-to-five-days-for-positive-players/1) Aren't the BUCS better without Arians distracting Brady? 2) Not arguing with these adjustments but asymptomatic just became a very flexible term.🙂
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Post by gerry on Dec 29, 2021 17:27:44 GMT -5
While Manny Diaz was fired, Bronco Mendenhall was not. He resigned due to burnout. UVA very much wanted him to stay. Is ECU or SMU (more likely) heading to El Paso? The UVA and Miami situations also include the coach-just-got-fired factor.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Dec 29, 2021 20:07:06 GMT -5
Interesting thought -- I was at the Pinstripe Bowl today and discussing this with fellow fans.
Both games were ultimately canceled but how in the world did BC get slotted to the Military Bowl in Annapolis while UVA got slotted into the Fenway Bowl in Boston. Why would the bowls and ESPN not have arranged for the opposite to take place? Seems like common sense. Am I missing something?
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Post by bfoley82 on Dec 29, 2021 20:17:57 GMT -5
Interesting thought -- I was at the Pinstripe Bowl today and discussing this with fellow fans. Both games were ultimately canceled but how in the world did BC get slotted to the Military Bowl in Annapolis while UVA got slotted into the Fenway Bowl in Boston. Why would the bowls and ESPN not have arranged for the opposite to take place? Seems like common sense. Am I missing something? The selection order in the ACC....They have to be within so many spots of each other to be selected over each other
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 29, 2021 20:18:05 GMT -5
Interesting thought -- I was at the Pinstripe Bowl today and discussing this with fellow fans. Both games were ultimately canceled but how in the world did BC get slotted to the Military Bowl in Annapolis while UVA got slotted into the Fenway Bowl in Boston. Why would the bowls and ESPN not have arranged for the opposite to take place? Seems like common sense. Am I missing something? The only long shot reason I can think of is the bowls have a secondary mission to boost tourism in the region, and local fans don't boost tourism or spend as much as traveling fans. 29,653 attendance at Yankee Stadium. That's not bad all things considered.
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Post by hcpride on Dec 29, 2021 20:28:55 GMT -5
Interesting thought -- I was at the Pinstripe Bowl today and discussing this with fellow fans. Both games were ultimately canceled but how in the world did BC get slotted to the Military Bowl in Annapolis while UVA got slotted into the Fenway Bowl in Boston. Why would the bowls and ESPN not have arranged for the opposite to take place? Seems like common sense. Am I missing something? VA did better in the ACC so I I’d think they’d be invited to the ‘better ‘ of the two bowls (based on cash payout?] v BC’s invite. I don’t know which of those two bowls is considered ‘better’, the word ‘invites’ implies some wiggle room as @bfoley notes and I’m sorta guessing in any case. I attended two Sun Bowls back in the day (long before the playoffs) and the two teams invited were very specifically the 4th place Big Ten v 4th Place PAC 10. Or something along those lines.
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Post by bfoley82 on Dec 29, 2021 20:37:53 GMT -5
Interesting thought -- I was at the Pinstripe Bowl today and discussing this with fellow fans. Both games were ultimately canceled but how in the world did BC get slotted to the Military Bowl in Annapolis while UVA got slotted into the Fenway Bowl in Boston. Why would the bowls and ESPN not have arranged for the opposite to take place? Seems like common sense. Am I missing something? VA did better in the ACC so I I’d think they’d be invited to the ‘better ‘ of the two bowls (based on cash payout?] v BC’s invite. I don’t know which of those two bowls is considered ‘better’, the word ‘invites’ implies some wiggle room as @bfoley notes and I’m sorta guessing in any case. I attended two Sun Bowls back in the day (long before the playoffs) and the two teams invited were very specifically the 4th place Big Ten v 4th Place PAC 10. Or something along those lines. Here is the breakdown looks like they got rid of the pecking order.... www.tarheelblog.com/2021/11/18/22788172/2021-acc-bowl-selections-primer
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Dec 29, 2021 21:34:17 GMT -5
Interesting thought -- I was at the Pinstripe Bowl today and discussing this with fellow fans. Both games were ultimately canceled but how in the world did BC get slotted to the Military Bowl in Annapolis while UVA got slotted into the Fenway Bowl in Boston. Why would the bowls and ESPN not have arranged for the opposite to take place? Seems like common sense. Am I missing something? The only long shot reason I can think of is the bowls have a secondary mission to boost tourism in the region, and local fans don't boost tourism or spend as much as traveling fans. 29,653 attendance at Yankee Stadium. That's not bad all things considered. I thought it was a decent crowd today as well, especially given the fact that 99% of NYC has mild cold/Omicron symptoms this week -- I predicted that it would be a pretty good matchup when it came to attendance. Maryland obviously somewhat local with most alumni in a reasonable driving distance. Plus they have the excitement of Tugavailoa and having made their first bowl game in five years. Virginia Tech typically travels well and has a very loyal fan base. Plus, for whatever reason, people from the state of Virginia seem to be drawn to the attraction New York City more so than folks that live further down south. I noticed this with VCU fans as well when I go to the A-10 tournament when it's held at Barclays.
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 29, 2021 23:29:14 GMT -5
The only long shot reason I can think of is the bowls have a secondary mission to boost tourism in the region, and local fans don't boost tourism or spend as much as traveling fans. 29,653 attendance at Yankee Stadium. That's not bad all things considered. I thought it was a decent crowd today as well, especially given the fact that 99% of NYC has mild cold/Omicron symptoms this week -- I predicted that it would be a pretty good matchup when it came to attendance. Maryland obviously somewhat local with most alumni in a reasonable driving distance. Plus they have the excitement of Tugavailoa and having made their first bowl game in five years. Virginia Tech typically travels well and has a very loyal fan base. Plus, for whatever reason, people from the state of Virginia seem to be drawn to the attraction New York City more so than folks that live further down south. I noticed this with VCU fans as well when I go to the A-10 tournament when it's held at Barclays. Is there a venue small enough for the PL tournament in NYC?
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Post by bfoley82 on Dec 30, 2021 2:03:10 GMT -5
The only long shot reason I can think of is the bowls have a secondary mission to boost tourism in the region, and local fans don't boost tourism or spend as much as traveling fans. 29,653 attendance at Yankee Stadium. That's not bad all things considered. I thought it was a decent crowd today as well, especially given the fact that 99% of NYC has mild cold/Omicron symptoms this week -- I predicted that it would be a pretty good matchup when it came to attendance. Maryland obviously somewhat local with most alumni in a reasonable driving distance. Plus they have the excitement of Tugavailoa and having made their first bowl game in five years. Virginia Tech typically travels well and has a very loyal fan base. Plus, for whatever reason, people from the state of Virginia seem to be drawn to the attraction New York City more so than folks that live further down south. I noticed this with VCU fans as well when I go to the A-10 tournament when it's held at Barclays. I think Virginia residents look kindly on the Northeast say NYC or Boston while going to Charlotte for a bowl game is meh. (Does Charlotte still have a bowl?)
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Post by hcpride on Dec 30, 2021 3:28:45 GMT -5
The only long shot reason I can think of is the bowls have a secondary mission to boost tourism in the region, and local fans don't boost tourism or spend as much as traveling fans. 29,653 attendance at Yankee Stadium. That's not bad all things considered. I thought it was a decent crowd today as well, especially given the fact that 99% of NYC has mild cold/Omicron symptoms this week -- I predicted that it would be a pretty good matchup when it came to attendance. Maryland obviously somewhat local with most alumni in a reasonable driving distance. Plus they have the excitement of Tugavailoa and having made their first bowl game in five years. Virginia Tech typically travels well and has a very loyal fan base. Plus, for whatever reason, people from the state of Virginia seem to be drawn to the attraction New York City more so than folks that live further down south. I noticed this with VCU fans as well when I go to the A-10 tournament when it's held at Barclays. I was happy to see the game wasn’t called off considering the Covid situation. Yesterday alone 70K New Yorkers tested positive at the walk - in sites (and heavens knows how many positives with the very popular home kits). Isolation/quarantine and contact tracing (difficult enterprises to start with in the context of a frequently asymptomatic respiratory virus) have become punchlines. No wonder the NFL (and CDC) is adjusting its Covid rules.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Dec 30, 2021 8:38:33 GMT -5
I thought it was a decent crowd today as well, especially given the fact that 99% of NYC has mild cold/Omicron symptoms this week -- I predicted that it would be a pretty good matchup when it came to attendance. Maryland obviously somewhat local with most alumni in a reasonable driving distance. Plus they have the excitement of Tugavailoa and having made their first bowl game in five years. Virginia Tech typically travels well and has a very loyal fan base. Plus, for whatever reason, people from the state of Virginia seem to be drawn to the attraction New York City more so than folks that live further down south. I noticed this with VCU fans as well when I go to the A-10 tournament when it's held at Barclays. I think Virginia residents look kindly on the Northeast say NYC or Boston while going to Charlotte for a bowl game is meh. (Does Charlotte still have a bowl?) Yes -- the Belk Bowl I THINK it's still called. Used to be the Continental Tire Bowl. They have North Carolina v. South Carolina this year so that should be pretty close to a full house.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Dec 30, 2021 8:44:21 GMT -5
I thought it was a decent crowd today as well, especially given the fact that 99% of NYC has mild cold/Omicron symptoms this week -- I predicted that it would be a pretty good matchup when it came to attendance. Maryland obviously somewhat local with most alumni in a reasonable driving distance. Plus they have the excitement of Tugavailoa and having made their first bowl game in five years. Virginia Tech typically travels well and has a very loyal fan base. Plus, for whatever reason, people from the state of Virginia seem to be drawn to the attraction New York City more so than folks that live further down south. I noticed this with VCU fans as well when I go to the A-10 tournament when it's held at Barclays. Is there a venue small enough for the PL tournament in NYC? The smaller venues in or very close to NYC are all TOO small. Columbia, Fordham, Iona & Westchester County Center. The WCC in White Plains could be a decent site...if they completely tore it down and rebuilt. It's an absolute dump with the worst site lines you could possibly imagine. Would also be a potential spot for the MAAC as well. I guess theoretically in terms of size St. John's Carnesecca Arena and Army's Christl Arena would be closest options in the general area where you could have a neutral site PL tournament. Neither would be an attractive location as far as metro NY is concerned. West Point would be a decent neutral site just as far as average proximity to all schools in the league.
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Post by timholycross on Dec 30, 2021 9:19:00 GMT -5
For a year or two, the new arena at Belmont Park (UBS; Islanders prime tenants) might make some low or mid major conference a great deal- I'm sure they're looking to fill dates as there's no NBA team and its most logical college tenant, SJU, is tied to MSG.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Dec 30, 2021 9:46:37 GMT -5
For a year or two, the new arena at Belmont Park (UBS; Islanders prime tenants) might make some low or mid major conference a great deal- I'm sure they're looking to fill dates as there's no NBA team and its most logical college tenant, SJU, is tied to MSG. UBS Arena should be for hockey. Barclays should be for basketball, boxing and Jay-Z concerts.
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Post by midwestsader05 on Dec 30, 2021 11:18:16 GMT -5
I think Virginia residents look kindly on the Northeast say NYC or Boston while going to Charlotte for a bowl game is meh. (Does Charlotte still have a bowl?) Yes -- the Belk Bowl I THINK it's still called. Used to be the Continental Tire Bowl. They have North Carolina v. South Carolina this year so that should be pretty close to a full house. It's the Duke's Mayo bowl this year. Ratings should be decent as well as the attendance since both coaches have pledged to take the Mayo bath should they win. Mac Brown taking a dip in Mayo would be a sight to see.
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Post by bfoley82 on Dec 30, 2021 12:04:55 GMT -5
For a year or two, the new arena at Belmont Park (UBS; Islanders prime tenants) might make some low or mid major conference a great deal- I'm sure they're looking to fill dates as there's no NBA team and its most logical college tenant, SJU, is tied to MSG. UBS Arena should be for hockey. Barclays should be for basketball, boxing and Jay-Z concerts. It is like the Target Arena (Timberwolves home arena) in Minnesota having college hockey conference championships at the same time the Wild rink is hosting a different conference. Is it optimal? No but can be done.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Dec 30, 2021 13:09:15 GMT -5
UBS Arena should be for hockey. Barclays should be for basketball, boxing and Jay-Z concerts. It is like the Target Arena (Timberwolves home arena) in Minnesota having college hockey conference championships at the same time the Wild rink is hosting a difference conference. Is it optimal? No but can be done. What is that, maybe a diversity & inclusion symposium?
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Post by bfoley82 on Dec 30, 2021 14:17:53 GMT -5
It is like the Target Arena (Timberwolves home arena) in Minnesota having college hockey conference championships at the same time the Wild rink is hosting a difference conference. Is it optimal? No but can be done. What is that, maybe a diversity & inclusion symposium? Autocorrect problems
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