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Post by bringbackcaro on Apr 17, 2022 18:38:33 GMT -5
In James' defense, he was behind a couple of really good bigs for Iona. Certainly worth a long look. As for point guards, I kinda like that Honor Huff from VMI (SoCon all rookie team). Not sure if the staff is still looking at him. Happy Easter all. Nelly Joseph was a solid MAAC big. I do not know who else you refer to. He played 28 MPG. If James could not get more minutes than he did, I wonder how much he could help us. my guess is that Pitino either pushed him out or merely told him he had no future there. How much PT did Josh Sankes get at Rutgers before transferring to HC? We have reached a point where Nelson could get Armando Bacot to transfer from UNC to HC and people would still complain. 1) If all goes well, our 4/5 minutes should be dominated by Gates, Louth, and Kenny this year. Adding someone who could push them for minutes and potentially be good enough to take minutes would be a very good addition to the roster. 2) Given Pitino’s connections to the HC staff, I would imagine they have a good scouting report on the kid.
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Post by hchoops on Apr 17, 2022 20:43:38 GMT -5
Josh played in 33 games in 2 years and averaged under 6 mpg and under 1 ppg. Rutgers was in the Big East. It seems to me that James is primarily a 5. Gates and Louth are also primarily 5s. Gates will pribably play 32-35 minutes a game I do not know what direct connection Pitino has to any staff member.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Apr 17, 2022 20:50:43 GMT -5
Assume Bring Back is suggesting that Nelson, through Billy Donovan, is connected to Pitino.
Anyone that is connected to Pitino or HOFCRW, even tangentially, is a good coach in the eyes of Bring Back.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Apr 17, 2022 20:57:36 GMT -5
R J Evans was previously an assistant coach at Louisville in 2017-18, helping the Cardinals to an overall record of 22-14 and a trip to the National Invitation Tournament quarterfinals. Rick Pitino was the coach at Louisville until On October 16,2017 when the ULAA board voted unanimously to fire Pitino for cause.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Apr 17, 2022 21:52:13 GMT -5
Two big differences between Josh Sankes and anyone we are interested in from the Portal:
(1) Josh was 7-1 (2) Josh joined a team where he could develop his talents under the tutelage of Ralph Willard
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Post by football44 on Apr 18, 2022 4:54:14 GMT -5
Assume Bring Back is suggesting that Nelson, through Billy Donovan, is connected to Pitino. Anyone that is connected to Pitino or HOFCRW, even tangentially, is a good coach in the eyes of Bring Back. Know it through very good authority that BN is NOT connected to RP. By the way Trey James from Iona is 6’11”. He would be a dominant force in the PL.
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Post by dadominate on Apr 18, 2022 6:35:01 GMT -5
i would certainly welcome trey james.
while he obviously hasn't produced much, you can't teach a solid/fully-developed 6'10, he has practiced against good players for several years, and i think he would be worth taking a chance. nelson's recruiting has been pretty mediocre, and his retention of said recruits downright awful, but i wonder if being from the same part of the country could help land this kid.
definitely worth a chance in my book as we haven't seen a body like that at hc in a while and he seems to have pretty decent footwork.
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Post by trimster on Apr 18, 2022 6:58:10 GMT -5
i would certainly welcome trey james. while he obviously hasn't produced much, you can't teach a solid/fully-developed 6'10, he has practiced against good players for several years, and i think he would be worth taking a chance. nelson's recruiting has been pretty mediocre, and his retention of said recruits downright awful, but i wonder if being from the same part of the country could help land this kid. definitely worth a chance in my book as we haven't seen a body like that at hc in a while and he seems to have pretty decent footwork. I thought the same on the geographic connection between the two. I can’t recall an HC cager from Kentucky.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Apr 18, 2022 7:12:09 GMT -5
While we're at it, I think the roster also needs an athletic 6-7/6-8 guy, a 3/4 tweener type (rather than 4/5). Maybe Austin Lewis is supposed to be that guy in time, but it seems like we could get a little longer on the perimeter.
Lots of needs, I guess.
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Post by trimster on Apr 18, 2022 7:15:06 GMT -5
i would certainly welcome trey james. while he obviously hasn't produced much, you can't teach a solid/fully-developed 6'10, he has practiced against good players for several years, and i think he would be worth taking a chance. nelson's recruiting has been pretty mediocre, and his retention of said recruits downright awful, but i wonder if being from the same part of the country could help land this kid. definitely worth a chance in my book as we haven't seen a body like that at hc in a while and he seems to have pretty decent footwork. I thought the same on the geographic connection between the two. I can’t recall an HC cager from Kentucky. James’ hometown, Inez, has 1,000 people in it and is very close to the WV border. Looks like he didn’t have a senior year of hs hoops as he graduated in December, a semester early and entered Iona in January of ‘21.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Apr 18, 2022 7:28:58 GMT -5
We aren't paying for an OV just to kick the tires on this kid. Quite sure Nelson wants him and will be the closer, selling him hard on the full benefits, on and off the court, of the Holy Cross experience.
A big-bodied rim protector can only help a team as poor as we have been defending inside the last few years.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Apr 18, 2022 7:59:31 GMT -5
^
Would love to know what the current on-court "benefits" at HC are.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Apr 18, 2022 8:06:28 GMT -5
He will get significant playing time.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Apr 18, 2022 8:09:23 GMT -5
Assume Bring Back is suggesting that Nelson, through Billy Donovan, is connected to Pitino. Anyone that is connected to Pitino or HOFCRW, even tangentially, is a good coach in the eyes of Bring Back. Know it through very good authority that BN is NOT connected to RP. By the way Trey James from Iona is 6’11”. He would be a dominant force in the PL. Was he dominant in the MAAC? If the answer's no, then he probably won't be dominant in the Patriot League.
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Post by football44 on Apr 18, 2022 8:12:20 GMT -5
i would certainly welcome trey james. while he obviously hasn't produced much, you can't teach a solid/fully-developed 6'10, he has practiced against good players for several years, and i think he would be worth taking a chance. nelson's recruiting has been pretty mediocre, and his retention of said recruits downright awful, but i wonder if being from the same part of the country could help land this kid. definitely worth a chance in my book as we haven't seen a body like that at hc in a while and he seems to have pretty decent footwork. This kid is playing behind 2 seven footers at Iona who are destined for the NBA. He would control the boards in the PL.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Apr 18, 2022 8:14:22 GMT -5
i would certainly welcome trey james. while he obviously hasn't produced much, you can't teach a solid/fully-developed 6'10, he has practiced against good players for several years, and i think he would be worth taking a chance. nelson's recruiting has been pretty mediocre, and his retention of said recruits downright awful, but i wonder if being from the same part of the country could help land this kid. definitely worth a chance in my book as we haven't seen a body like that at hc in a while and he seems to have pretty decent footwork. This kid is playing behind 2 seven footers at Iona who are destined for the NBA. He would control the boards in the PL. NBA, huh?
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Post by HC92 on Apr 18, 2022 8:17:07 GMT -5
Know it through very good authority that BN is NOT connected to RP. By the way Trey James from Iona is 6’11”. He would be a dominant force in the PL. Was he dominant in the MAAC? If the answer's no, then he probably won't be dominant in the Patriot League. Not being dominant in the MAAC on a better team as an 18/19 year old does not mean he couldn’t dominate in the PL as a 20-22 year old. His first semester at Iona should have been his last semester in high school. His sophomore season at Iona was his first full season and should have been his Frosh season.
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Post by football44 on Apr 18, 2022 8:17:18 GMT -5
This kid is playing behind 2 seven footers at Iona who are destined for the NBA. He would control the boards in the PL. NBA, huh? Yep. Playing for Rick Pitino not Brent Nelson.
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Post by hchoops on Apr 18, 2022 9:04:31 GMT -5
Joseph is a very long shot for the NBA There is no other Iona NBA prospect
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Post by hchoops on Apr 18, 2022 9:42:51 GMT -5
i would certainly welcome trey james. while he obviously hasn't produced much, you can't teach a solid/fully-developed 6'10, he has practiced against good players for several years, and i think he would be worth taking a chance. nelson's recruiting has been pretty mediocre, and his retention of said recruits downright awful, but i wonder if being from the same part of the country could help land this kid. definitely worth a chance in my book as we haven't seen a body like that at hc in a while and he seems to have pretty decent footwork. Almost all players in the Portal have a recent record to go by. James has none. I would not invest $75000 in an unknown
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Post by bringbackcaro on Apr 18, 2022 10:34:43 GMT -5
i would certainly welcome trey james. while he obviously hasn't produced much, you can't teach a solid/fully-developed 6'10, he has practiced against good players for several years, and i think he would be worth taking a chance. nelson's recruiting has been pretty mediocre, and his retention of said recruits downright awful, but i wonder if being from the same part of the country could help land this kid. definitely worth a chance in my book as we haven't seen a body like that at hc in a while and he seems to have pretty decent footwork. Almost all players in the Portal have a recent record to go by. James has none. I would not invest $75000 in an unknown So your team would just be a couple guys from the portal (finding academically qualified + interested in HC + having a strong track record is a very tall task — well executed by HC on Octave, btw), and a bunch of walk-one? If you don’t want to invest in unknowns, you surely wouldn’t be investing $300K on 16-17 year-old high school kids…
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Post by dadominate on Apr 18, 2022 10:48:52 GMT -5
i would certainly welcome trey james. while he obviously hasn't produced much, you can't teach a solid/fully-developed 6'10, he has practiced against good players for several years, and i think he would be worth taking a chance. nelson's recruiting has been pretty mediocre, and his retention of said recruits downright awful, but i wonder if being from the same part of the country could help land this kid. definitely worth a chance in my book as we haven't seen a body like that at hc in a while and he seems to have pretty decent footwork. Almost all players in the Portal have a recent record to go by. James has none. I would not invest $75000 in an unknown beggars can't be choosers at this point, hoops. we need to fill out a roster. we have had much less qualified scholarship offers than james. iona had several good bigs that he could not beat out for playing time. i wouldn't hold that against him too much. i also suspect he would actually stick around (another plus) if he pans out as he would be carrying around serious baggage if he were to transfer once again.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Apr 18, 2022 11:20:17 GMT -5
Wish a PG was making an official visit as well.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Apr 18, 2022 12:04:29 GMT -5
We could do much, much worse than James. He's worth the scholarship, IMO.
For what it's worth, he did receive offers from Iowa and Wake out of high school, so I'm willing to bet he knows how to play basketball, but just maybe didn't fit into what Pitino was looking to do at Iona and had a couple of better players ahead of him.
Hoops, we are in the bottom ten of all Division 1 -- not exactly in a position to get selective.
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Post by trimster on Apr 18, 2022 12:39:26 GMT -5
We could do much, much worse than James. He's worth the scholarship, IMO. For what it's worth, he did receive offers from Iowa and Wake out of high school, so I'm willing to bet he knows how to play basketball, but just maybe didn't fit into what Pitino was looking to do at Iona and had a couple of better players ahead of him. Hoops, we are in the bottom ten of all Division 1 -- not exactly in a position to get selective. Exactly. As BBC pointed out, how many academically qualified kids with some chops in hoops, are taking a hard look at HC. Not a whole lot. He’s only had one full year of college and it sounds like he was playing behind some pretty good bigs at Iona. I think he’s worth a schollie offer.
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