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Post by Tom on Dec 20, 2022 9:04:29 GMT -5
Through Jr year
GP/ Minutes Rabs Coulibaly Jr 6/30 2/49 Soph 16/124 28/420 Frosh 4/39 2/5
Coulibaly is a strange one to me. Not sure if this is a continuation of what ailed him early in the season, but he seemed fine in his two games. Freakishly bad luck to have something keep you out for some games and then something else knock you out for season
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Post by timholycross on Dec 20, 2022 9:48:41 GMT -5
(update after watching the game)
Yes, both on the bench, so I would assume both are still team members and, more importantly, still HC students.
It's just odd seeing not one but two players out for the season w/11-12 weeks or so left in it w/no casts, no apparent limping or other impairments. Hope that means each can rehab whatever ails them on an aggressive schedule that allows them to be playing basketball (hopefully under the watchful eye of a new head coach) by the time the school year ends. Especially Louth, if there ever was a case where the thing the guy has to do more than anything is play basketball; he just doesn't seem to know the game that well.
Both have at least one season left at Holy Cross and both have 3 seasons left overall.
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 20, 2022 9:53:03 GMT -5
"In the event"......I would assume at this point that it is close to a sure thing.
Speaking for myself, after watching HC basketball for almost 60 years, if he comes back, I'm out. That simple.
I can't watch this total mess any longer with Nelson in charge. It is just too painful.
I’m already out as the program brings me no enjoyment at the moment. Only question is when I’ll be back. I like that you say "when" and not "if".
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Post by HC92 on Dec 20, 2022 10:23:01 GMT -5
I’m already out as the program brings me no enjoyment at the moment. Only question is when I’ll be back. I like that you say "when" and not "if". Like most here, I’ve been on this train for a long time. Just getting off for a few minutes at this stop to stretch my legs. I’ll be back on when the train starts moving forward again.
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Post by hchoops on Dec 20, 2022 10:24:21 GMT -5
Just hope the train has not left the station
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Post by HC92 on Dec 20, 2022 10:25:34 GMT -5
Just hope the train has not left the station Fear not. It’s out of gas and going nowhere. Just waiting for AAA to come get it going again.
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Post by hchoops on Dec 20, 2022 10:44:07 GMT -5
You’ve have mixed your analogies
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Post by WCHC Sports on Dec 20, 2022 11:28:06 GMT -5
Are they really hurt? Not speculating on anything the students have done, but more my lack of faith and trust in the program and administration with respect to winning, competency, transparency, honesty, making sense, and just anything generally positive.
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Post by timholycross on Dec 20, 2022 11:50:57 GMT -5
Are they really hurt? Not speculating on anything the students have done, but more my lack of faith and trust in the program and administration with respect to winning, competency, transparency, honesty, making sense, and just anything generally positive. I don't see why and/or how they'd be on the bench if they were being shut down for the season for academic or disciplinary reasons. Unless you think Nelson is of the mind set "well, if they can't contribute, then I'll force them to watch how bad we are"
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Post by Tom on Dec 20, 2022 11:56:49 GMT -5
Are they really hurt? Not speculating on anything the students have done, but more my lack of faith and trust in the program and administration with respect to winning, competency, transparency, honesty, making sense, and just anything generally positive. If not hurt, then what? Even lacking faith, I'm not sure what else could have happened that would have an announcement and still traveling with team and sitting on bench. Although I have more faith in the program than to think they would put out a press release that was a blatant lie when there was no urgent need for any stateement
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Post by WCHC Sports on Dec 20, 2022 12:21:47 GMT -5
They played a game, and basically played reasonably well, and didn't crumple down into a heap on the floor. When seen again, they weren't in casts, braces, wheelchairs, or crutches. And they're both shut down on the same day. Did they crash into each other? I don't know if it's skepticism or just being a conspiracy theory nut with HCMBB after all the trauma, but I mean, what's going on? If they were shut down, could you do a routine, professional sports announcement that so-and-so blew out his ACL and so-and-so popped his Achilles, and we wish them both the best.
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Post by HC92 on Dec 20, 2022 12:51:17 GMT -5
None of this matters. We’re all just sitting by waiting for the end. Whether everyone quits, gets suspended, plays, gets injured, etc. matters not. I wish the kids well at HC or elsewhere as they don’t deserve this but the current edition of HC Men’s Basketball is ovah.
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Post by WCHC Sports on Dec 20, 2022 12:52:57 GMT -5
The end has already happened. When is the next beginning?
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Post by HC92 on Dec 20, 2022 12:55:17 GMT -5
The end has already happened. When is the next beginning? Hoping for this afternoon. Might wait until Friday to bury it in the news.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Dec 20, 2022 13:02:38 GMT -5
They played a game, and basically played reasonably well, and didn't crumple down into a heap on the floor. When seen again, they weren't in casts, braces, wheelchairs, or crutches. And they're both shut down on the same day. Did they crash into each other? I don't know if it's skepticism or just being a conspiracy theory nut with HCMBB after all the trauma, but I mean, what's going on? If they were shut down, could you do a routine, professional sports announcement that so-and-so blew out his ACL and so-and-so popped his Achilles, and we wish them both the best. My antennas went off when I saw this news, too. Didn't make a ton of sense to me and your observations were similar to mine. If Louth is healthy enough to play 19 minutes against Tom Sawyer followed by 30 minutes against Harvard (he certainly didn't show any nagging injuries against Harvard), then I'm left wondering what happened in the Harvard game (or practices afterwards) that led him not being able to play on Dec. 3 against CCSU (two days after Harvard)? Also, if Louth was ailed with an injury that precluded him from playing the first six games of the season, why would Nelson have logged 30 minutes for him against Harvard...a game in which was decided pretty much at halftime? Was it to ensure Harvard didn't double our score? It's pretty much a six man rotation the rest of the way. Because no one really cares much anymore and Jen Toland has been consumed with football, I can't say we will get any answers.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Dec 20, 2022 13:06:41 GMT -5
The end has already happened. When is the next beginning? Hoping for this afternoon. Might wait until Friday to bury it in the news. There's an eight day window in between SHU and Bucknell. If ADKH was going to pull the plug, Thursday afternoon or Friday morning (following SHU) would be the time to do it, so RJ can have enough time as the interim head coach with the team before PL begins. But, I imagine ADKH will let the season expire and relieve Nelson of his duties the morning after we lose in the PLT.
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Post by trimster on Dec 20, 2022 13:31:54 GMT -5
Hoping for this afternoon. Might wait until Friday to bury it in the news. There's an eight day window in between SHU and Bucknell. If ADKH was going to pull the plug, Thursday afternoon or Friday morning (following SHU) would be the time to do it, so RJ can have enough time as the interim head coach with the team before PL begins. But, I imagine ADKH will let the season expire and relieve Nelson of his duties the morning after we lose in the PLT. I can’t imagine anyone wanting to fire anybody on 12-23.
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Post by timholycross on Dec 20, 2022 16:09:02 GMT -5
There's an eight day window in between SHU and Bucknell. If ADKH was going to pull the plug, Thursday afternoon or Friday morning (following SHU) would be the time to do it, so RJ can have enough time as the interim head coach with the team before PL begins. But, I imagine ADKH will let the season expire and relieve Nelson of his duties the morning after we lose in the PLT. I can’t imagine anyone wanting to fire anybody on 12-23. One way or another, Nelson or no Nelson; all the time between now and the start of classes (except for, I guess, the 23rd to the 26th, no one around) should be used for productive practices; even if you have to bring in a couple more walk ons to keep the numbers up.
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Post by HC92 on Dec 20, 2022 16:42:41 GMT -5
There's an eight day window in between SHU and Bucknell. If ADKH was going to pull the plug, Thursday afternoon or Friday morning (following SHU) would be the time to do it, so RJ can have enough time as the interim head coach with the team before PL begins. But, I imagine ADKH will let the season expire and relieve Nelson of his duties the morning after we lose in the PLT. I can’t imagine anyone wanting to fire anybody on 12-23. No, but you feel a little less badly when you’re paying the employee hundreds of thousands of dollars not to work.
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 20, 2022 16:50:43 GMT -5
In my life connected to sports, I can't recall ever meeting anyone who would not feel bad about having to fire someone - regardless of the date. (OK, one high school principal who fired a coach who never had a losing record for "not winning enough." I was the AD and was not told in advance of the move. That principal wanted that all to himself. There is clearly more to the story but he is still the only person I thought "enjoyed" firing someone.)
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Post by hchoops on Dec 20, 2022 16:51:01 GMT -5
But that employee did not hire himself.
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 20, 2022 21:03:51 GMT -5
True enough, but I am not sure what you are talking about here.
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Post by hchoops on Dec 20, 2022 21:07:24 GMT -5
I was replying to 92’s post that it may be justified to fire someone on Dec 23 who is earning so much money. Nelson has not been good, but Blossom made a huge error by both hiring him and giving him a multi year contract.
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 20, 2022 21:18:01 GMT -5
Thanks for the explanation. It is appreciated.
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Post by Tom on Dec 21, 2022 9:40:23 GMT -5
I can’t imagine anyone wanting to fire anybody on 12-23. One way or another, Nelson or no Nelson; all the time between now and the start of classes (except for, I guess, the 23rd to the 26th, no one around) should be used for productive practices; even if you have to bring in a couple more walk ons to keep the numbers up. I think that is standard practice. Coach WIllard used to say the practices between the end of finals and the start of second semester were the most productive because there was literally nothing other than basketball for the guys to focus on. The team could have great growth in that period. By the time second semester starts, what you see is what you get ---------------------------- With these two guys out for the year, that leaves 10 scholarship players and two walk on's. That should be enough to run a scrimmage portion of your practice. During some of the open practices, members of the coaching staff also filled in as warm bodies during the scrimmage portion. I don't think they need more walk on's --- On a negative note (and we really don't need more of those) the end of the bench guys who never see the light of day, presumably because the staff doesn't think they're ready, needs to really step up in practice if they're going to push the starters to a point of making the starters improve. Of course the announcement doesn't really change the status quo from the last couple of weeks
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