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Post by longsuffering on Dec 21, 2022 16:18:56 GMT -5
If somehow HC made a run in league play and looked competitive for the PLT, I wouldn't mind one or both players getting a new medical evaluation at that time.
I have no doubts they are both legitimately injured but also realize there is no reason to rush back right now and a potential future year of eligibility at risk if you do.
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Post by pcfriar on Dec 21, 2022 20:17:48 GMT -5
They are likely trying to save a year of eligibility. They are preparing to leave HC basketball after the season is over. They know 2022 is a lost season. Andy Toole is someone HC should consider.
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Post by bison137 on Dec 21, 2022 20:20:54 GMT -5
They are likely trying to save a year of eligibility. They are preparing to leave HC basketball after the season is over. They know 2022 is a lost season. Andy Toole is someone HC should consider. Unless they have a serious season-ending injury, documented by MRI's and doctor's certification etc, they don't save a year of eligibility by not playing. Once you play even one game, that counts as a full season.
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Post by bison137 on Dec 21, 2022 20:23:50 GMT -5
They are likely trying to save a year of eligibility. They are preparing to leave HC basketball after the season is over. They know 2022 is a lost season. Andy Toole is someone HC should consider. Once upon a time, Toole was a hot commodity. But over the past seven seasons, his RMU teams are 40 games below .500. His record over that time span has been much worse than that of Milan Brown while he was at MSM. Also in Horizon League play over the past 2+ years, RMU is 9-29.
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Post by timholycross on Dec 21, 2022 20:29:55 GMT -5
They are likely trying to save a year of eligibility. They are preparing to leave HC basketball after the season is over. They know 2022 is a lost season. Andy Toole is someone HC should consider. They have no marketability above D3. Illogical for them to simply sit out a semester.
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Post by newfieguy74 on Dec 21, 2022 20:31:38 GMT -5
They are likely trying to save a year of eligibility. They are preparing to leave HC basketball after the season is over. They know 2022 is a lost season. Andy Toole is someone HC should consider. How do you know they're preparing to leave?
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Dec 21, 2022 20:40:32 GMT -5
They are likely trying to save a year of eligibility. They are preparing to leave HC basketball after the season is over. They know 2022 is a lost season. Andy Toole is someone HC should consider. Once upon a time, Toole was a hot commodity. But over the past seven seasons, his RMU teams are 40 games below .500. His record over that time span has been much worse than that of Milan Brown while he was at MSM. Toole should have jumped when his stock was high. Didn’t Siena want him and he turned down that job?
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Post by pcfriar on Dec 21, 2022 20:58:40 GMT -5
Once upon a time, Toole was a hot commodity. But over the past seven seasons, his RMU teams are 40 games below .500. His record over that time span has been much worse than that of Milan Brown while he was at MSM. Toole should have jumped when his stock was high. Didn’t Siena want him and he turned down that job?
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Post by pcfriar on Dec 21, 2022 20:59:05 GMT -5
Toole should have jumped when his stock was high. Didn’t Siena want him and he turned down that job?
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Post by pcfriar on Dec 21, 2022 21:16:38 GMT -5
Unfortunately, Holy Cross isn’t exactly viewed as a great job. Toole is still very young and can recruit the northeast. He gives us youth and is a good cultural fit. Only more pain to come in Patriot League. HC admin needs to wake up.
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Post by pcfriar on Dec 21, 2022 21:18:39 GMT -5
Toole should have jumped when his stock was high. Didn’t Siena want him and he turned down that job? It’s a tough place to win! He has shown loyalty. He is young and can recruit the northeast.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Dec 21, 2022 21:29:34 GMT -5
Unfortunately, Holy Cross isn’t exactly viewed as a great job. Toole is still very young and can recruit the northeast. He gives us youth and is a good cultural fit. Only more pain to come in Patriot League. HC admin needs to wake up. What are you talking about?
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Post by bison137 on Dec 21, 2022 21:34:09 GMT -5
It’s a tough place to win! He has shown loyalty. He is young and can recruit the northeast. RMU isn’t a tougher place to win than the other schools that have been in their leagues. And they have a great arena, now in its fourth year. As you say, he is young and may rebound. But right now his career is definitely on a downward trajectory.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Dec 21, 2022 21:34:50 GMT -5
pcfriar——do you have a brother who is a photographer?
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Post by pcfriar on Dec 21, 2022 21:43:01 GMT -5
pcfriar——do you have a brother who is a photographer? No. Family has no artistic ability. Regis graduates
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 22, 2022 3:59:57 GMT -5
It’s a tough place to win! He has shown loyalty. He is young and can recruit the northeast. You mean he can dole out scholarships to high school players who live in the Northeast. His recruits don't play well enough to win. Holy Cross can't take a chance on a coach who isn't currently winning.
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Post by Tom on Dec 22, 2022 8:57:15 GMT -5
They are likely trying to save a year of eligibility. They are preparing to leave HC basketball after the season is over. They know 2022 is a lost season. Andy Toole is someone HC should consider. They have no marketability above D3. Illogical for them to simply sit out a semester. I disagree with the statement they have no marketability above D-III Coulibaly is admittedly raw and still learning the game, but last year he contributed on a low end D-I team. It's pretty harsh to say that no one in D-I or D-II would want someone with that size who has contributed at the low end of D-I.
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Post by timholycross on Dec 22, 2022 9:12:30 GMT -5
I forgot about D2, will give you that.
Does some other school take on a 20+ year-old project? "Raw and still learning the game" can only take you so far.
Not like he's 7-0 or more; 6-8 is a cheap commodity at most places.
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Post by Tom on Dec 22, 2022 9:41:28 GMT -5
I forgot about D2, will give you that. Does some other school take on a 20+ year-old project? "Raw and still learning the game" can only take you so far. Not like he's 7-0 or more; 6-8 is a cheap commodity at most places. You never know. If there's a medical redshirt out there, he could have 3 more years. Lots of big guys are projects in low D-I That being said, I don't think either of these guys are sprinting towards the portal - or at least shouldn't be. It's not like a new school is going to prep these guys for the NBA. Why put an excellent, free education in jeopardy for the sake of a game. On some other thread, a former player was quoted as saying the college you play basketball at is not a four year decision, it's a 40 year decision.
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Post by timholycross on Dec 22, 2022 18:48:07 GMT -5
I forgot about D2, will give you that. Does some other school take on a 20+ year-old project? "Raw and still learning the game" can only take you so far. Not like he's 7-0 or more; 6-8 is a cheap commodity at most places. You never know. If there's a medical redshirt out there, he could have 3 more years. Lots of big guys are projects in low D-I That being said, I don't think either of these guys are sprinting towards the portal - or at least shouldn't be. It's not like a new school is going to prep these guys for the NBA. Why put an excellent, free education in jeopardy for the sake of a game. On some other thread, a former player was quoted as saying the college you play basketball at is not a four year decision, it's a 40 year decision. Couldn't agree more. If either or both move on, I don't want to hear either one is anywhere that's significantly inferior academically to Holy Cross. Would be a terrible waste for them, not HC basketball.
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Post by hchoops on Dec 22, 2022 20:19:42 GMT -5
Announcer said both injuries were lower legs
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Post by efg72 on Dec 22, 2022 20:29:58 GMT -5
If true about leg injuries is tat the first injury report in a few years?
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 22, 2022 23:07:59 GMT -5
If true about leg injuries is tat the first injury report in a few years? The NCAA doesn't keep announcer stats.🤣 But yes, even as vague an injury description as lower leg does not get disclosed often.
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Post by bison137 on Dec 22, 2022 23:37:45 GMT -5
If true about leg injuries is tat the first injury report in a few years? The NCAA doesn't keep announcer stats.🤣 But yes, even as vague an injury description as lower leg does not get disclosed often. I think you might be surprised as to how often injuries do get disclosed in college basketball. Even at Bucknell’s level it is not uncommon and at the P6-conference level injuries are often disclosed. All it takes is for the player to say it’s OK. For another example, take a look at the UConn women, where all of their numerous injuries have been reported on in great detail.
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 23, 2022 0:38:04 GMT -5
The NCAA doesn't keep announcer stats.🤣 But yes, even as vague an injury description as lower leg does not get disclosed often. I think you might be surprised as to how often injuries do get disclosed in college basketball. Even at Bucknell’s level it is not uncommon and at the P6-conference level injuries are often disclosed. All it takes is for the player to say it’s OK. For another example, take a look at the UConn women, where all of their numerous injuries have been reported on in great detail. There's also a difference in interest. When an HC MBB reserve gets injured, Crossports wants to know the details. When a UConn WBB player gets injured a whole state and the national sports media want to know the details.
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