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Post by purplehaze on Mar 29, 2023 11:30:30 GMT -5
Would think Coach DP is on campus today meeting the team for the first time - making an impression on all that they are going to be part of the new story of HC basketball and hopefully that includes Bo in the room to see what our coach is all about
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Post by bigfan on Mar 29, 2023 11:37:37 GMT -5
I agree, we need some new players for next year, I will be looking forward to see what the OOC schedule will look like. Hopefully no more D3 opponents. Maybe one game against a D2 opponent would be OK. I would have no problem with Assumption or Bentley to start the season.
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 29, 2023 15:25:04 GMT -5
What about Lewis and Wilbar? I assume they are still at HC. Actually I believe they have both left the school The Won-loss record is blatant evidence. The above departures before the semester is even over are more subtle bread crumbs leading to how the HC MBB program has gone awry. Up until yesterday.
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Post by Tom on Mar 29, 2023 15:39:17 GMT -5
Actually I believe they have both left the school The Won-loss record is blatant evidence. The above departures before the semester is even over are more subtle bread crumbs leading to how the HC MBB program has gone awry. Up until yesterday. Minor nitpick - I believe they both completed the first semester and never returned for 2nd. While they left the school mid year, they did not leave the school mid-semester
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Post by timholycross on Mar 29, 2023 15:49:02 GMT -5
The Won-loss record is blatant evidence. The above departures before the semester is even over are more subtle bread crumbs leading to how the HC MBB program has gone awry. Up until yesterday. Minor nitpick - I believe they both completed the first semester and never returned for 2nd. While they left the school mid year, they did not leave the school mid-semester Wilbar's last game was on 1/11. Classes hadn't started yet, so very plausible that he left school. IIRC it was the first game of a two game road trip and he was nowhere to be found the next game. Lewis' final game was on 12/19. Maybe went to Sacred Heart on 12/22, maybe not. Doubt he was around for the league opener on 12/30.
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 29, 2023 15:51:17 GMT -5
The Won-loss record is blatant evidence. The above departures before the semester is even over are more subtle bread crumbs leading to how the HC MBB program has gone awry. Up until yesterday. Minor nitpick - I believe they both completed the first semester and never returned for 2nd. While they left the school mid year, they did not leave the school mid-semester I hope nobody indicated they weren't welcome to stay as a member of the student body. Something was posted about Bo being denied to use of some HC facilities after he entered the portal. Kit should put an end to that type of thinking. Holy Cross should not be anyone's retribution.
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Post by saderfan2020 on Mar 29, 2023 16:25:07 GMT -5
Would think Coach DP is on campus today meeting the team for the first time - making an impression on all that they are going to be part of the new story of HC basketball and hopefully that includes Bo in the room to see what our coach is all about Can confirm DP is on campus in his office and that he met with players today around 2pm. He spoke with each one individually
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Post by hchoops on Mar 29, 2023 16:33:07 GMT -5
As Bo left, was he smiling or frowning ?
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Post by HC92 on Mar 29, 2023 16:39:53 GMT -5
Minor nitpick - I believe they both completed the first semester and never returned for 2nd. While they left the school mid year, they did not leave the school mid-semester I hope nobody indicated they weren't welcome to stay as a member of the student body. Something was posted about Bo being denied to use of some HC facilities after he entered the portal. Kit should put an end to that type of thinking. Holy Cross should not be anyone's retribution. Why would we let Bo use the varsity facilities when none of the other non-varsity members of the student body (many of whom are paying to go to school) are allowed to use them?
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Post by saderfan2020 on Mar 29, 2023 16:42:57 GMT -5
I hope nobody indicated they weren't welcome to stay as a member of the student body. Something was posted about Bo being denied to use of some HC facilities after he entered the portal. Kit should put an end to that type of thinking. Holy Cross should not be anyone's retribution. Why would we let Bo use the varsity facilities when none of the other non-varsity members of the student body (many of whom are paying to go to school) are allowed to use them? it was me who said that people in the portal could not use the gym under BN and his staffs implementation. No word on BM using the gym as BN was fired obv. Thinking it would be in paulsens best interest to be nice in hopes of retaining BM
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 29, 2023 17:42:52 GMT -5
I hope nobody indicated they weren't welcome to stay as a member of the student body. Something was posted about Bo being denied to use of some HC facilities after he entered the portal. Kit should put an end to that type of thinking. Holy Cross should not be anyone's retribution. Why would we let Bo use the varsity facilities when none of the other non-varsity members of the student body (many of whom are paying to go to school) are allowed to use them? 1) Common courtesy. None of the non-varsity basketball players have the same need for the facilities and have the "Jo" dedicated for their recreation. 2) Strategic (enlightened?) self interest. Bo hasn't left yet and whoever would be hired to be the next coach may well want to re-recruit him. "One in the hand is worth two in the bush" and all that. 3) Karma. What type of program and school do we want? Head basketball coaches and VPIA's must be mature enough to know that entering the portal is fully endorsed by Holy Cross and all other NCAA members or else the membership wouldn't have voted to create it. Entering the portal by a student is not a personal insult against a coach or AD that gives the adult administrator/coach the right to initiate a spitting contest with the student in response that the adult feels entitled to win because "he (the student) started it."
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 29, 2023 18:02:49 GMT -5
If a student who has announced he/she wants to leave the program, why would they expect to have full use of faclities dedicated to players still in the program? Next you may try to tell us that actiions (even by student-athletes) will have consequences. Imagine a world where that happens. Yes, I know this is a somewhat unique situation so I hope it can be resolved quickly.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Mar 29, 2023 18:24:11 GMT -5
Seems to me that denying Bo facility access is a bit petty. After all, we want him to stay here. Hopefully Paulsen reverses that BN policy right away, especially in this case.
Regular students with transfer apps in to Cornell and Georgetown are still allowed to use the library, no?
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Post by newfieguy74 on Mar 29, 2023 18:33:57 GMT -5
"I hope nobody indicated they weren't welcome to stay as a member of the student body. Something was posted about Bo being denied to use of some HC facilities after he entered the portal. Kit should put an end to that type of thinking. Holy Cross should not be anyone's retribution."
Where was the post, and by whom?
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Post by sader81 on Mar 29, 2023 19:01:40 GMT -5
"I hope nobody indicated they weren't welcome to stay as a member of the student body. Something was posted about Bo being denied to use of some HC facilities after he entered the portal. Kit should put an end to that type of thinking. Holy Cross should not be anyone's retribution." Where was the post, and by whom? I recall a post about Lowder being denied access. Don’t recall Bo reported being denied.
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Post by Tom on Mar 29, 2023 20:50:23 GMT -5
"I hope nobody indicated they weren't welcome to stay as a member of the student body. Something was posted about Bo being denied to use of some HC facilities after he entered the portal. Kit should put an end to that type of thinking. Holy Cross should not be anyone's retribution." Where was the post, and by whom? I recall a post about Lowder being denied access. Don’t recall Bo reported being denied. Slightly different situation. Is entering your name in the portal the same as immediately leaving the team? I don't know how many official team functions happen after the stuff associated with the end of the season, but we don't know that he has missed any obligation as part of the 2022-23 squad
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 29, 2023 22:47:28 GMT -5
"I hope nobody indicated they weren't welcome to stay as a member of the student body. Something was posted about Bo being denied to use of some HC facilities after he entered the portal. Kit should put an end to that type of thinking. Holy Cross should not be anyone's retribution." Where was the post, and by whom? The post was by Saderfan2020 on Crossports that under BN and his staff players in the portal couldn't use the gym. He's not sure if Bo ever got denied use since it was announced BN "would not return" around the same time as Bo entered the portfolio so it's not known if that policy was enforced between head coaches or if DP will enforce it. I didn't remember who posted but Saderfan2020 was nice enough to refresh it for us.
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Post by hc99 on Mar 30, 2023 7:08:08 GMT -5
"I hope nobody indicated they weren't welcome to stay as a member of the student body. Something was posted about Bo being denied to use of some HC facilities after he entered the portal. Kit should put an end to that type of thinking. Holy Cross should not be anyone's retribution." Where was the post, and by whom? I think people mean Bubba Humphrey, not Bo Montgomery. It was definitely documented that Bubba wasn't allowed to use the varsity facilities.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Mar 30, 2023 7:14:52 GMT -5
Can't wait for the change in culture.
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Post by Tom on Mar 30, 2023 7:44:37 GMT -5
I might be in the minority here, but it doesn't really bother me that someone who leaves the team is treated just like the other 2000 students who don't play a varsity sport.
It is not uncommon for walk ons not to play for four years. It's a huge time commitment with little reward. It would not be a shocker if Capron or Piwko chose to not play hoops through senior year. If they choose to walk away from basketball but want to work out, are they they're going to the new field house or Luth?
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Mar 30, 2023 7:47:35 GMT -5
Can't wait for the change in culture. Anyone seen Twitter hashtags yet in the same vein of #AttackAndServe I will not be missing any of that.
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Post by trimster on Mar 30, 2023 7:55:12 GMT -5
Can't wait for the change in culture. Anyone seen Twitter hashtags yet in the same vein of #AttackAndServe I will not be missing any of that. Thanks for the reminder.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Mar 30, 2023 17:00:17 GMT -5
I’ll bet that Bo leaves the portal soon and re-ups with Holy Crosd
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Post by HC92 on Mar 30, 2023 17:05:51 GMT -5
I’ll bet that Bo leaves the portal soon and re-ups with Holy Crosd Probably depends what his other options are, whether he definitely wants to play a 5th year and whether there is any way for him to play that 5th year at HC.
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Post by DiMarz on Mar 30, 2023 18:32:02 GMT -5
I’ll bet that Bo leaves the portal soon and re-ups with Holy Crosd Probably depends what his other options are, whether he definitely wants to play a 5th year and whether there is any way for him to play that 5th year at HC. I'd guess he can play one more year at HC, and then use his 5th as a grad transfer as did RJ, Austin B and Matt Faw..I certainly hope he play's one more season at HC!
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