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Post by longsuffering on Mar 30, 2023 18:54:35 GMT -5
I might be in the minority here, but it doesn't really bother me that someone who leaves the team is treated just like the other 2000 students who don't play a varsity sport. It is not uncommon for walk ons not to play for four years. It's a huge time commitment with little reward. It would not be a shocker if Capron or Piwko chose to not play hoops through senior year. If they choose to walk away from basketball but want to work out, are they they're going to the new field house or Luth? The Jo would be appropriate. They would not need any small courtesy to use the varsity facilities as they would not be in the portal trying to keep their game sharp at the D-1 level. In reality former walk-ons might head to the Luth to shoot around or play a pick up game with their peeps they have spent the most time with, the varsity players and nobody would bat an eye. My main point is since the portal is totally legitimate, endorsed by NCAA member schools, used frequently by HC MBB, etc. why not extend any courtesy you can to Bo or Bubba before him and hope that your future players finishing up a semester at other schools receive the same courtesy and arrive to Holy Cross with the sharpest game possible?
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Post by HC92 on Mar 30, 2023 18:54:40 GMT -5
Probably depends what his other options are, whether he definitely wants to play a 5th year and whether there is any way for him to play that 5th year at HC. I'd guess he can play one more year at HC, and then use his 5th as a grad transfer as did RJ, Austin B and Matt Faw..I certainly hope he play's one more season at HC! My thinking was that if he knows he’s going to leave HC after next year, it might make sense to try to get 2 years somewhere else. Love DP but .500 is sort of the stretch goal for next season unless we can work some magic in the portal.
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Post by DiMarz on Mar 30, 2023 19:19:28 GMT -5
I'd guess he can play one more year at HC, and then use his 5th as a grad transfer as did RJ, Austin B and Matt Faw..I certainly hope he play's one more season at HC! My thinking was that if he knows he’s going to leave HC after next year, it might make sense to try to get 2 years somewhere else. Love DP but .500 is sort of the stretch goal for next season unless we can work some magic in the portal. If he stays next season he gets his Batchelor's degree and them can get a Masters in a calendar year..My daughter did this...If he looks for 2 years, all his credits may not be accepted toward a Batchelors... who knows these days...
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Post by Tom on Mar 30, 2023 19:24:26 GMT -5
I'd guess he can play one more year at HC, and then use his 5th as a grad transfer as did RJ, Austin B and Matt Faw..I certainly hope he play's one more season at HC! My thinking was that if he knows he’s going to leave HC after next year, it might make sense to try to get 2 years somewhere else. Love DP but .500 is sort of the stretch goal for next season unless we can work some magic in the portal. On the flip side, Faw and Butler got at least half way to a Masters to go with their Bachelors. Montgomery would have to find a school with a grad school that was also willing to hand out a Bachelor's Degree after only one year. I'm not sure how many academically prestigious schools meet that criteria
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Mar 31, 2023 5:00:53 GMT -5
Really hope someone can make Bo reconsider before it's too late, both for HC's sake next year, and for his own future. Just doesn't make sense.
I also hope the staff is also looking to add another recruited walk on or two. I would much rather go that route as opposed to taking up scholarship slots for multiple years with desperation signings.
The other thing I am curious about is the situations of Rabs and Louth. Even without the injuries, they have 2 years of eligibility left, correct? And could it possibly be 3 with injury redshirt waivers? Also wondering exactly what their surgeries were for, and if they are going to be able to participate in summer workouts.
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Post by Tom on Mar 31, 2023 7:11:05 GMT -5
The other thing I am curious about is the situations of Rabs and Louth. Even without the injuries, they have 2 years of eligibility left, correct? And could it possibly be 3 with injury redshirt waivers? Also wondering exactly what their surgeries were for, and if they are going to be able to participate in summer workouts. Both were foot or ankle related. Either that or they were seen in Hart with decoy boots
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Post by timholycross on Mar 31, 2023 8:47:45 GMT -5
The other thing I am curious about is the situations of Rabs and Louth. Even without the injuries, they have 2 years of eligibility left, correct? And could it possibly be 3 with injury redshirt waivers? Also wondering exactly what their surgeries were for, and if they are going to be able to participate in summer workouts. Both were foot or ankle related. Either that or they were seen in Hart with decoy boots They definitely qualify for a medical redshirt. In the case of Louth, it wouldn't be a surprise if he needed to stay a 5th year or a portion thereof; as his first semester freshman year was not spent on campus, IIRC. So, I think there's a chance he'd be around in 2023-4 and 2024-5; I would tend to think Rabs is all done at HC after one more season.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Mar 31, 2023 9:18:43 GMT -5
I’ve always had the thought that, with uninterrupted good health, skills instruction, and more game experience, Louth could be a really solid contributor. I hope we’ll be able to find out if my inexpert opinion is correct or not
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Post by timholycross on Mar 31, 2023 14:55:14 GMT -5
I’ve always had the thought that, with uninterrupted good health, skills instruction, and more game experience, Louth could be a really solid contributor. I hope we’ll be able to find out if my inexpert opinion is correct or not Missing the summer and fall of 2020 certainly didn't help him either.
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Post by purplehaze on Apr 3, 2023 11:21:31 GMT -5
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Apr 3, 2023 12:23:13 GMT -5
I've said previously that I expected Bo to return to the fold. I can't envision HC listing him on next year's roster if he was in fact leaving-but of course I could be wrong
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Apr 3, 2023 12:34:34 GMT -5
I see RJ is not listed as an assistant coach.....although that probably doesn't mean anything.
Add clones of Malachi Alexander and Jehyve Floyd and this team could contend next year. Let Dorsey run the point full time.
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Post by Tom on Apr 3, 2023 13:28:05 GMT -5
I'm not reading anything into Montgomery being on the roster. I am also not reading anything into Nugent and Singleton not being on the roster.
RJ is the most telling thing to me - and even the fact that someone took the time to remove him from the roster is not a 100 percent guarantee that he won't be back
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 3, 2023 14:12:21 GMT -5
Regarding Bo, with a degree in hand next May, why move on this year? He needs good coaching that he hasn't had access to. Why wouldn't DP be as good as anyone else at a place that would give Bo a scholarship? Bo needs good coaching to see how good he can be, imo. Why risk going somewhere that has it, but where he might end up a seventh or eighth man and never get to highlight his hoped for improvement?
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Apr 3, 2023 14:15:51 GMT -5
With Bo, two spots to fill for next season.
Without Bo, three spots to fill.
I imagine HCDP will be hitting the portal hard over the coming weeks.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Apr 3, 2023 15:24:09 GMT -5
The first team practice was last Saturday. It would be interesting to learn whether Bo participated. If he didn't, he may be on the roster simply because he has not yet officially told the school he is transferring.
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Post by trimster on Apr 3, 2023 15:29:27 GMT -5
The first team practice was last Saturday. It would be interesting to learn whether Bo participated. If he didn't, he may be on the roster simply because he has not yet officially told the school he is transferring. Playing a sport in college has become a year round commitment. Anyone know how many hours of bball practice the NCAA allows outside of the usual Oct to March timeframe?
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Post by hchoops on Apr 3, 2023 15:33:08 GMT -5
I believe teams can practice until the final four ends At least that used to be the rule
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Post by trimster on Apr 3, 2023 15:50:40 GMT -5
I believe teams can practice until the final four ends At least that used to be the rule We know almost everyone has practice for x amount of hours for 6-8 weeks in June/July.
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 3, 2023 17:20:23 GMT -5
I believe teams can practice until the final four ends At least that used to be the rule We know almost everyone has practice for x amount of hours for 6-8 weeks in June/July. I wonder if that is officially on a volunteer basis. What if a kid lives on a farm and the family needs him/her in the summer?
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Post by hchoops on Apr 3, 2023 17:25:47 GMT -5
That farmer’s son has a $750,000+ scholarship
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Post by HC92 on Apr 3, 2023 17:54:58 GMT -5
We know almost everyone has practice for x amount of hours for 6-8 weeks in June/July. I wonder if that is officially on a volunteer basis. What if a kid lives on a farm and the family needs him/her in the summer? If you happen to be a farm boy and you beat the odds and get good enough to play D1 hoops, the family has already learned to live without your help in the spring and summer.
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Post by saderfan2020 on Apr 3, 2023 18:16:54 GMT -5
Really hope someone can make Bo reconsider before it's too late, both for HC's sake next year, and for his own future. Just doesn't make sense. I also hope the staff is also looking to add another recruited walk on or two. I would much rather go that route as opposed to taking up scholarship slots for multiple years with desperation signings. The other thing I am curious about is the situations of Rabs and Louth. Even without the injuries, they have 2 years of eligibility left, correct? And could it possibly be 3 with injury redshirt waivers? Also wondering exactly what their surgeries were for, and if they are going to be able to participate in summer workouts. Would be a really good idea considering one of Bretts flaws was not having skilled/ enough walk-ons to give good enough scout looks during the season.
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Post by timholycross on Apr 3, 2023 18:31:08 GMT -5
Really hope someone can make Bo reconsider before it's too late, both for HC's sake next year, and for his own future. Just doesn't make sense. I also hope the staff is also looking to add another recruited walk on or two. I would much rather go that route as opposed to taking up scholarship slots for multiple years with desperation signings. The other thing I am curious about is the situations of Rabs and Louth. Even without the injuries, they have 2 years of eligibility left, correct? And could it possibly be 3 with injury redshirt waivers? Also wondering exactly what their surgeries were for, and if they are going to be able to participate in summer workouts. Would be a really good idea considering one of Bretts flaws was not having skilled/ enough walk-ons to give good enough scout looks during the season. At least in the summer the people our roster get to play/practice with don't necessarily have to be players in the program. In fact, probably gets pretty stale playing against your own guys day after day after day. Concerning the 2 big guys- I would think having them in condition to participate this summer is critical to their being able to contribute in 23-24. At some point relatively soon the horse could have left the barn on one or both of their college careers.
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Post by breezy on Apr 3, 2023 20:00:42 GMT -5
RJ Evans will be returning as an assistant coach with Coach Pualsen.
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