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Post by princetoncrusader on Aug 7, 2023 21:00:01 GMT -5
The individual schools don’t all sponsor every sport that the conferences sponsor, however. A lot of power schools can’t cut sports even if they wanted to because they sponsor the NCAA minimum, or close to it. A quick look at the B1G shows that every school sponsors at least 21 sports. OSU sponsors 34, PSU sponsors 29. I see Northwestern with 19 sports.
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 7, 2023 22:14:36 GMT -5
Those that have no plan are left with an empty hand i believe we have multiple options under consideration Do you think those options are under consideration on a Holy Cross only basis, a league wide basis or both?
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 7, 2023 22:28:59 GMT -5
We have a once in a century opportunity to change our future. We might be able to grab Cal, Stanford, Northwestern, Rice, Vanderbilt, Georgia Tech, Fordham, William& Mary, and Villanova to create a special football only conference where academic attention helps us grow the value of a HC experience. In this case the brilliance 90 wide and four for 40 has even greater value imagine Worcester with these teams playing Fitton crazy thought but in reality people will be looking for a home in this new world of college football Katie Ledecky, who just passed Michael Phelps in some swimming medal category was on the news tonight. She swam at Stanford like so many other Olympians. Our Swim team would be a fish out of water against Stanford. Football only, while Chesney is our coach is another matter. Unlikely but worthy of discussion. No Georgia Tech, Stanford, Cal Berkeley, Northwestern or Vanderbilt at Polar Park please.
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Post by efg72 on Aug 8, 2023 6:31:42 GMT -5
Those that have no plan are left with an empty hand i believe we have multiple options under consideration Do you think those options are under consideration on a Holy Cross only basis, a league wide basis or both? Not the crazy one I put forward that was just throwing stuff out for people to laugh or ignore other ideas, real or not, are out there as what if….
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Aug 8, 2023 6:54:32 GMT -5
We have a once in a century opportunity to change our future. We might be able to grab Cal, Stanford, Northwestern, Rice, Vanderbilt, Georgia Tech, Fordham, William& Mary, and Villanova to create a special football only conference where academic attention helps us grow the value of a HC experience. In this case the brilliance 90 wide and four for 40 has even greater value imagine Worcester with these teams playing Fitton crazy thought but in reality people will be looking for a home in this new world of college football While I think the scenario you lay out is just as much of a pipe dream as it was prior to this current round of realignment, I think something resembling a "Magnolia League" could come to fruition. As it now stands, the likes of Vanderbilt, Northwestern and Rutgers aren't getting kicked out of their respective conferences and really have no reason to want to leave given the incoming $$$ from their TV networks. I do think something will happen between now and 2035 (when it's TV contract is up) with the ACC. I see the likes of UNC, NC State, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Florida State, Louisville and Clemson trying to latch on with either the SEC or BiG OR splitting off to spearhead their own league, possibly bringing schools like South Florida, Memphis and SMU with them. This could result in the formation of another league that would somewhat resemble the Big East Football Conference that folded in 2013 and would be made up of schools that place a higher value on basketball => Pitt, Temple, UConn, Duke, Wake Forest, Georgia Tech, Miami, BC, Syracuse. I could see Navy joining up with this group as well, considering that they were actually slated to join the old Big East in football in 2013 or 2014 right before the split, and wound up in the AAC. Tulane and Rice could of course also be considered here. Cal and Stanford -- latest rumors have them in talks with the ACC but I think ultimately the Big 12 will invite them to get California added to their footprint. Holy Cross, Fordham and W&M are still far beyond the reaches of what would make sense in the creation of any new FBS conference. Notice I even left UMass out of the Eastern-based league that I see coming to fruition. Possible but unlikely that Villanova could reconsider FBS as an option and look to upgrade football to get into this league. Remember in the early 2010's they briefly announced plans to join the Big East in football and play home games at the MLS stadium. Those plans obviously crashed with the BE split.
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Post by gks on Aug 8, 2023 7:23:34 GMT -5
With the Big 10 going to 18 members the SEC will want to follow suit. Florida State and Clemson will jump in a heartbeat.
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Post by cmo on Aug 9, 2023 7:05:06 GMT -5
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Post by gks on Aug 9, 2023 7:35:02 GMT -5
In a perfect world...yes everyone would be independent. But in a world where TV money is king it doesn't work.
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Post by hchoops on Aug 16, 2023 17:12:29 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 16, 2023 18:23:13 GMT -5
I like rooting for a righteous David in this world of overpriced Goliaths. In D-1 BB especially, there are no subdivisions, every conference gets an autobid, there's only five players from each team and one ball on the court for forty minutes. Get a good coach, work hard and see what happens.
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 16, 2023 19:31:56 GMT -5
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Aug 18, 2023 8:22:46 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 18, 2023 8:45:37 GMT -5
I always thought George Will was a baseball guy. He's stretching in his old age.
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 18, 2023 9:14:20 GMT -5
George Will “nails it,” doesn’t he?
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Post by Chu Chu on Aug 18, 2023 13:11:44 GMT -5
George Will “nails it,” doesn’t he? And, this is why the Patriot League is the appropriate home for Holy Cross athletics.
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Post by alum on Sept 1, 2023 8:30:30 GMT -5
UConn released a report yesterday about the status of its athletic programs which included a reduced deficit. It is part numbers, part cheerleading. Overall the health of the athletic program has improved some. Highlights include the fact that they have 576 student athletes of whom 466 receive some sort of aid. They also note that $16 million is transferred from the athletic budget to other state budgets through scholarship payments and rent at XL Center and Rentschler. They also revealed that they had $27.9 million in donations which I would guess includes "donations" required to get season tickets. They also did not disclose the portion which involved capital gifts as opposed to those to the operting budget. www.courant.com/2023/08/31/uconns-first-athletic-annual-report-shows-spending-gap-narrowing-highlights-successes/annualreport.uconnhuskies.com/The announced attendance last night at Rentschler was over 36,000.
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Post by WCHC Sports on Sept 1, 2023 10:02:03 GMT -5
Reason number 12409158102938124 why I hate big time college football:
"The ACC joins the ranks of a rapidly changing collegiate landscape. Starting next year, the Big Ten will have 18 teams and the Big 12 and SEC will have 16. The move leaves the Pac-12 with just two remaining programs, Washington State and Oregon State, a continued spiral that has included the league losing eight teams since late July."
I know there was always eye-rolling at "student athlete," but it appears that the conferences themselves can't do math.
If numbers were hard, what about words? The "A" in ACC stands for Atlantic, no? So how can they add programs on the Pacific Ocean coast? Maybe they'll chance the name to All Coasts Conference instead. Rivalries, tradition, geography... none of it matters. How much money can you make?
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Sept 1, 2023 10:16:17 GMT -5
Anyone who watches FBS now is an enabler. Hoping all of this will end up killing the Goose.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Sept 1, 2023 10:55:29 GMT -5
The top tier of college football needs to fully jail-break itself from the traditional conference format at some point. In that one key sport.
I'm sure all the former PAC 10 schools would be just as happy to do what they're doing now in football, making as much TV as possible, but staying together in all other sports. UCLA didn't join the Big Ten so they could play a basketball game at the RAC every other year.
I know the whole idea of Cal and Stanford being in the ATLANTIC Coast Conference is funny but thats 3 of the major 4 now.
Big Ten: New Jersey => CA and Pac NW Big 12: AZ => FL and up to WV ACC: CA => Boston and down to FL
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Post by timholycross on Sept 2, 2023 6:40:42 GMT -5
So the number of "Power 4" schools actually increases by 3 vis-a-vis the Power 5. Added 5 (BYU, Cinci, UCF, Houston, SMU) and lost 2 (Ore St., Wash St.). I would have expected the number to shrink.
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Post by sader1970 on Sept 2, 2023 8:13:24 GMT -5
"Power" is a relative term, right?
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Post by purplehaze on Sept 2, 2023 9:37:55 GMT -5
From ESPN today: Army has emerged as the American Athletic Conference's top expansion target, sources said.
After a call with AAC presidents and athletic directors Friday morning, it was clear that Army was the league's top choice to replace SMU, sources said. Commissioner Mike Aresco has begun informally exploring Army as an expansion candidate.
Aresco has engaged with Army athletic director Mike Buddie about potential membership, sources said. The addition of Army would be for football only, an arrangement similar to the one Navy has with the conference.
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Post by mm67 on Sept 2, 2023 11:09:48 GMT -5
From ESPN today: Army has emerged as the American Athletic Conference's top expansion target, sources said. After a call with AAC presidents and athletic directors Friday morning, it was clear that Army was the league's top choice to replace SMU, sources said. Commissioner Mike Aresco has begun informally exploring Army as an expansion candidate. Aresco has engaged with Army athletic director Mike Buddie about potential membership, sources said. The addition of Army would be for football only, an arrangement similar to the one Navy has with the conference. This makes a ton of sense.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Sept 2, 2023 12:27:03 GMT -5
Will be interesting to see how the Army-Navy gane is handled. They'd have to make it a non-conference game to keep their December standalone slot.
Also, if Army and Navy met the week prior in the AAC title game (would be rare but could happen) wouldn't that take a lot of juice out of the Army-Navy game?
Do they still have PTSD from the CUSA experiment in the '90's?
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