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Post by hchoops on Jul 27, 2023 15:54:16 GMT -5
Seems as if that is what the commissioner wants.
Here it goes again.
This is part of a long piece in The Athletic
In UConn, Commissioner Yormark sees something that other Big 12 leaders don’t. They think football first and have their doubts that UConn football can become relevant. The recent track record — 27-83 since 2013 — is hard to ignore. They see the success in men’s and women’s basketball as undeniably attractive, but it’s less easy to get them to buy the pitch that UConn adds value for this league, in part because these presidents, chancellors and ADs have spent the past year locked in on trying to land Power 5 football schools.
But Yormark sees an entry point into New York City. He sees a dominant basketball conference and big-time events at Madison Square Garden. He sees a future in which the Big 12 makes more money down the road by decoupling its media rights package and selling its basketball rights separately. Conference sources say he sees a sort of buy-low opportunity here, a bet that the Big 12 investing in UConn over the rest of the decade will drive up the conference’s value. For him, there’s no hesitation. There’s
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Post by necfbfan on Jul 27, 2023 16:16:17 GMT -5
Makes sense for both sides. Yormark sees basketball as undervalued and he's aiming to be the unquestioned #1 hoops conference in the country. Not only does that increase conference payout from TV networks, it also makes it hard for the SEC and BIG 10 to box you out of a college football postseason.
Plus, MSG is key and UConn is absolutely an entry point to playing there. As for UConn, their payout and brand power would increase substantially.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jul 27, 2023 16:22:53 GMT -5
UConn would be really, really foolish to leave. Geno is retiring soon, football is awful, and one move out of town from Hurley sends the Huskies into an BC-like spiral.
As others have learned, the Garden is Big East territory. One game a year in December isn't going to be the same when you're traveling to Ames, Lubbock and Provo.
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Post by alum on Jul 27, 2023 16:48:59 GMT -5
I loved the original BigEast and the current BE is pretty good, too. I have no interest in these Big 12 schools.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jul 27, 2023 16:58:47 GMT -5
Didn't UConn seek entry into the B-12 of yesteryear (back in the days of the original Crossports) and was rejected because it was not a football first school?
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jul 27, 2023 17:24:15 GMT -5
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Post by HC92 on Jul 27, 2023 17:34:58 GMT -5
Because conference memberships are impossible to keep track of, I looked up the Big12. Texas and Oklahoma are leaving in July 2024 and Colorado is returning. At that point, the members schools will be: Baylor, BYU, Central Florida, Cincinnati, Colorado, Houston, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, TCU, Texas Tech, West Virginia.
Definitely don’t love it for UConn but I probably wouldn’t love any of these far flung conferences with no geographical ties and limited long-term rivalries. The B1G, ACC and SEC are a little better from what I think I know of their memberships but I really don’t know who is where anymore.
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Post by hc87 on Jul 27, 2023 18:21:47 GMT -5
USC and UCLA to the B1G was the "hell with everything" move for me....FBS is becoming a joke, I know I'm biased but give me FCS football any day.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jul 27, 2023 18:28:15 GMT -5
USC and UCLA to the B1G was the "hell with everything" move for me....FBS is becoming a joke, I know I'm biased but give me FCS football any day. No one is leaving for the lackluster FCS, and certainly not the verdant pastures of the Patriot League. |
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 27, 2023 22:39:18 GMT -5
Stay in the Big East. Stop paying exit and entrance fees. The current UConn Football Coach has the Huskies in turn around mode that might very well be snuffed out in the Big but leaking 12.
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 27, 2023 22:44:36 GMT -5
UConn would be really, really foolish to leave. Geno is retiring soon, football is awful, and one move out of town from Hurley sends the Huskies into an BC-like spiral. As others have learned, the Garden is Big East territory. One game a year in December isn't going to be the same when you're traveling to Ames, Lubbock and Provo. |
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Post by Ignutz on Jul 28, 2023 9:53:11 GMT -5
Or as Howie Carr (Boston Herald) often says, "If the phone doesn't ring, you'll know it's us." |
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Post by gks on Jul 28, 2023 10:03:02 GMT -5
UConn would be foolish to turn down any sort of invite to the Big 12. Big East TV deal is scraps compared to B12 and the amount of money the new BE gets from TV isn't going up.
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 28, 2023 10:46:34 GMT -5
UConn would be foolish to turn down any sort of invite to the Big 12. Big East TV deal is scraps compared to B12 and the amount of money the new BE gets from TV isn't going up. If that's the case I moderate my opposition. The beleaguered CT. Taxpayers have to be considered. I thought no state could top Taxachusetts until I discovered CT. took a few decades off from funding the Teacher's Pension Fund, despite a sales tax on clothing and worst of all snack foods like potato chips. |
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jul 28, 2023 11:21:45 GMT -5
UConn would be foolish to turn down any sort of invite to the Big 12. Big East TV deal is scraps compared to B12 and the amount of money the new BE gets from TV isn't going up. The Big East TV contract is up in 2025. It's going up. OK, maybe not $31 million, but it's going up. If it weren't, why aren't are all the other BE schools shopping for a new conference? |
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Post by cruskater31 on Jul 28, 2023 12:16:28 GMT -5
Feel like the American should partner up with the Big East for a football conference. Big 12 would be interesting with UConn. Old BE foe WVU would be their nearest team I think. I saw that Big Ten was looking at UNC-Duke-UVA more than Washington and Oregon which had previously been rumored.
FSU wants to get out of the ACC and I imagine Clemson as well, but so far the exit fee is high and the media grant of rights is lock solid. Wonder if the ACC would look to the American like USF or the Sun Belt for teams like Liberty and JMU. W&M and Delaware would be other options.
If ASU/Ariz/Utah decide to leave the Pac 12, that would probably sink the Pac 12 and at the same time deter the Big 12 commish from pursuing UCONN
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Post by HC92 on Jul 28, 2023 12:44:13 GMT -5
UConn would be foolish to turn down any sort of invite to the Big 12. Big East TV deal is scraps compared to B12 and the amount of money the new BE gets from TV isn't going up. The only relevant question for the taxpayers is whether UConn is better off in the long run as a member of the Big 12. Lots of factors to consider beyond what their annual payout is from a bigger tv contract. |
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Post by gks on Jul 28, 2023 13:49:01 GMT -5
UConn would be foolish to turn down any sort of invite to the Big 12. Big East TV deal is scraps compared to B12 and the amount of money the new BE gets from TV isn't going up. The Big East TV contract is up in 2025. It's going up. OK, maybe not $31 million, but it's going up. If it weren't, why aren't are all the other BE schools shopping for a new conference? -Currently Big East schools get just shy of $5 million per school. -Only UConn has FBS football to offer from the Big East. There has been some internet chatter regarding Big 12 looking for basketball only members at one point. Any BE school would jump at this offer. |
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Post by gks on Jul 28, 2023 13:51:24 GMT -5
Feel like the American should partner up with the Big East for a football conference. Big 12 would be interesting with UConn. Old BE foe WVU would be their nearest team I think. I saw that Big Ten was looking at UNC-Duke-UVA more than Washington and Oregon which had previously been rumored. FSU wants to get out of the ACC and I imagine Clemson as well, but so far the exit fee is high and the media grant of rights is lock solid. Wonder if the ACC would look to the American like USF or the Sun Belt for teams like Liberty and JMU. W&M and Delaware would be other options. If ASU/Ariz/Utah decide to leave the Pac 12, that would probably sink the Pac 12 and at the same time deter the Big 12 commish from pursuing UCONN IMO the Arizona schools and Utah don't move the needle....B12 would take UConn over them. Washington and/or Oregon would be another story. |
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jul 28, 2023 14:02:43 GMT -5
Ahh, remember the good old days when rivalries were regional and so were conferences....
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 28, 2023 14:40:21 GMT -5
Stay in the Big East. Stop paying exit and entrance fees. The current UConn Football Coach has the Huskies in turn around mode that might very well be snuffed out in the Big but leaking 12. Mora is fantastic to deal with and it really stunned me how down to earth he is. |
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Post by HC92 on Jul 28, 2023 15:21:32 GMT -5
The Big East TV contract is up in 2025. It's going up. OK, maybe not $31 million, but it's going up. If it weren't, why aren't are all the other BE schools shopping for a new conference? -Currently Big East schools get just shy of $5 million per school. -Only UConn has FBS football to offer from the Big East. There has been some internet chatter regarding Big 12 looking for basketball only members at one point. Any BE school would jump at this offer. Why would a Big East school jump at playing in the Big 12 for basketball only? Would it matter if the Big East said they didn’t want said school for the rest of the sports if they left for basketball? |
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 28, 2023 16:01:21 GMT -5
-Currently Big East schools get just shy of $5 million per school. -Only UConn has FBS football to offer from the Big East. There has been some internet chatter regarding Big 12 looking for basketball only members at one point. Any BE school would jump at this offer. Why would a Big East school jump at playing in the Big 12 for basketball only? Would it matter if the Big East said they didn’t want said school for the rest of the sports if they left for basketball? According to one of our experts, Pac or Bison, where you play your basketball is where you have to play your other sports (except football?) as long as the league sponsors those sports. The PL sponsors football but Navy and Army don't play in the league. Maybe they are excused because they play fb in a different subdivision or maybe any school can play football elsewhere even if their primary (where you play BB) league sponsors football. |
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 28, 2023 16:09:33 GMT -5
Stay in the Big East. Stop paying exit and entrance fees. The current UConn Football Coach has the Huskies in turn around mode that might very well be snuffed out in the Big but leaking 12. Mora is fantastic to deal with and it really stunned me how down to earth he is. So he's not excitable like his father Jim "Playoffs!" Mora? |
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Post by timholycross on Jul 28, 2023 19:00:33 GMT -5
UConn would be foolish to turn down any sort of invite to the Big 12. Big East TV deal is scraps compared to B12 and the amount of money the new BE gets from TV isn't going up. The Big East TV contract is up in 2025. It's going up. OK, maybe not $31 million, but it's going up. If it weren't, why aren't are all the other BE schools shopping for a new conference? .Where would any of the rest of them go? UConn's the only school that can offer FBS football to a suitor. 7 of the schools have no football whatsoever. But I agree with you, it's insane to reverse such a popular and successful move. Now if it was the ACC that came calling with schools that UConn used to play and in close proximity, that's another matter. |
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