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Post by kaftan12 on Nov 19, 2023 13:04:10 GMT -5
Disappointing but the loss to ARMY obviously was a must win. We had a chance. Time to move on.
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Post by alum on Nov 19, 2023 13:06:00 GMT -5
I have to say, I know a lot more about FCS football than I ever did before from spending the last three weeks doing bracketology. So, that’s good, I guess.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Nov 19, 2023 13:08:08 GMT -5
Geographic proximity again came into play in the first round pairings.
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Post by cruskater31 on Nov 19, 2023 13:09:24 GMT -5
SoS: YSU 16 Holy Cross 41 Delaware 52 Mercer 73 Richmond 79
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Post by alum on Nov 19, 2023 13:09:26 GMT -5
They took Chatty? Holy crap we need out of the Patriot League I don’t buy that, at least this year. They took Mercer and Chattanooga from the lame ass SOS Southern Conference.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Nov 19, 2023 13:16:18 GMT -5
SoS: YSU 16 Holy Cross 41 Delaware 52 Mercer 73 Richmond 79 HC was not going to be paired with Lafayette.
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Post by cruskater31 on Nov 19, 2023 13:21:17 GMT -5
SoS: YSU 16 Holy Cross 41 Delaware 52 Mercer 73 Richmond 79 HC was not going to be paired with Lafayette. yes that is a fact. There were multiple opportunities between the Albany seed, Nova seed, and probably Furman seed. We should schedule those bubble teams like Richmond, Chattanooga, and Delaware and see what the score would be.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 19, 2023 13:22:23 GMT -5
They still wouldn't take us at 8-3 over 8-3 Delaware with the two leagues and SoS The fact that 8-3 Delaware was last team in shows the CAA isn't getting the same level of respect post-JMU. 8-3 out of the CAA used to be a virtual lock, and even 7-4 most likely you'd be in 80% of the time. UD went from maybe a seed to almost out...for losing to a great Villanova team.
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Post by gks on Nov 19, 2023 13:30:51 GMT -5
They took Chatty? Holy crap we need out of the Patriot League The anchor that is the Patriot League would keep an aircraft carrier in place. The league had two tournament worthy teams this year. Unfortunately the FCS committee sees the PL as a joke. Welcome to the Anti-PL club.
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Post by cfrivals on Nov 19, 2023 13:45:12 GMT -5
Team played great against 2 FBS teams and should have won both. But did not overwhelm in one of the weakest FCS conferences. The committee expected HC to blowout all the PL foes and they did that only twice and lost to a much inferior team at home. HC needs to decide who they want to be in FB?
1-Either be a top tier FCS program that competes at the highest level for a championship each year. 2- move to FBS and compete for a bowl berth each year and beat Umass, UConn, BC and Syracuse each year etc 3- Continue in the PL and, well you know
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 19, 2023 13:50:22 GMT -5
Team played great against 2 FBS teams and should have won both. But did not overwhelm in one of the weakest FCS conferences. The committee expected HC to blowout all the PL foes and they did that only twice and lost to a much inferior team at home. HC needs to decide who they want to be in FB? 1-Either be a top tier FCS program that competes at the highest level for a championship each year. 2- move to FBS and compete for a bowl berth each year and beat Umass, UConn, BC and Syracuse each year etc 3- Continue in the PL and, well you know 1) and 3).
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Post by thecrossisback on Nov 19, 2023 13:55:02 GMT -5
I am done with the Patriot League for good. Its a conference that doesn't care about football. It gets zero credit nationally.
We ran the table last year with an FBS win and barely got an 8 seed.
If your Chesney why do you want to deal with this? You are in a 1 bid conference.
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Post by bigfan on Nov 19, 2023 13:57:03 GMT -5
Leave the PL, would improve football and basketball recruiting.
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Post by cruskater31 on Nov 19, 2023 13:59:35 GMT -5
Sad to see just one Catholic this year in the tournament (Nova). I could see the UIW snub coming a mile away with their record and SoS, but I'd like to see the two schools play (as I would with Sac State). I feel bad for UC Davis as well after their hard fought win over the Hornets yesterday.
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Post by thecrossisback on Nov 19, 2023 13:59:57 GMT -5
Leave the PL, would improve football and basketball recruiting. We have more fans than most of these PL football teams combined. Lifeless conference.
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Post by sittingbull on Nov 19, 2023 14:00:22 GMT -5
They still wouldn't take us at 8-3 over 8-3 Delaware with the two leagues and SoS The fact that 8-3 Delaware was last team in shows the CAA isn't getting the same level of respect post-JMU. 8-3 out of the CAA used to be a virtual lock, and even 7-4 most likely you'd be in 80% of the time. UD went from maybe a seed to almost out...for losing to a great Villanova team. I find it hard to believe that Delaware would have been last in - but you have to look at their schedule and results. They had a pretty weak OOC. Their CAA wins were the bottom of the pack - mid tier UNH their best win. Still, the CAA got 4 in which is a little above average with 2 teams seeded in the top 8. I don’t think that’s a drop off based on past history. The Hens got clobbered yesterday. Maybe they were dreaming of CUSA🤮🤮
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Nov 19, 2023 14:02:23 GMT -5
Not sure I understand all the sour grapes.
We lost the games we had to win. In fact, win just one of these four and we are probably win.
This isn’t the committee’s or the PL’s fault.
If anyone get snubbed, it was Davis being left out and Sac St getting in over them.
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Post by cmo on Nov 19, 2023 14:06:20 GMT -5
What would vegas set the line at :
HC at Albany
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Post by efg72 on Nov 19, 2023 14:12:54 GMT -5
The OOC schedule wasn’t our problem
It was losing to Lafayette
Few if any errors allowed if you are in the PL, unless you beat an FBS, Sky, or Valley team
At this point we all know the PL is not a conference that helps a member team for the post season. And of course that is unlikely to change, if ever, but certainly not before the FBS realignment meets the FCS
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 19, 2023 14:13:10 GMT -5
They took Chatty? Holy crap we need out of the Patriot League The anchor that is the Patriot League would keep an aircraft carrier in place. The league had two tournament worthy teams this year. Unfortunately the FCS committee sees the PL as a joke. Welcome to the Anti-PL club. Logical regional role models for the pro-CAA club would be UNH and URI, who both played an Ivy this year and a weaker local team, Stonehill or Bryant for two out of three of their OOC games. Each played one far away G-5 team which was not a traditional rival of a century or more, Georgia State and Central Michigan for their third and final OOC game. Their FCS tournament hopes died on the vine at 6-5 each. HC was among the last four out at 7-4. Changing leagues would be a lot of commotion and broken 35-40 year partnerships. Make the case why HC in the CAA would be so much better than HC in the PL this year as to make all the uproar over League hopping definitely worth it.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Nov 19, 2023 14:16:30 GMT -5
Those complaining about the PL — maybe we would have been 5-6 or 6-5 if we were in the CAA.
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Post by hcpride on Nov 19, 2023 14:17:18 GMT -5
Considering the departure of JMU, the CAA with two seeded teams and two at-large teams this year has to be pleased.
Here in the PL, it’s the usual auto bid and nothing else.
Overall, both conferences were treated fairly.
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Post by thecrossisback on Nov 19, 2023 14:18:25 GMT -5
Those complaining about the PL — maybe we would have been 5-6 or 6-5 if we were in the CAA. Yeah but then you know you did not deserve it.
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Post by bikeman on Nov 19, 2023 14:20:12 GMT -5
I despise the PL. I stopped buying season tickets because of it. If HC joins ANY other league, I’ll re-up. Only phony academic elitists defend it.
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Post by cruskater31 on Nov 19, 2023 14:20:21 GMT -5
Massey matchups: 16-7 vs the field (excluding Laffy)
HC 38 - GW 28 HC 38 - Drake 7 HC 40 - Duquesne 21 HC 33 - Nicholls 24 HC 31 - Austin Peay 28 HC 33 - Chattanooga 27 HC 31 - Mercer 24 HC 31 - Delaware 28 HC 31 - Richmond 25 HC 31 - Sac State 30 HC 34 - Youngstown 31 HC 33 - North Dakota 31 HC 41 - NC Central 27 HC 24 - Southern Ill. 26 HC 24 - NDSU 33
Vs seeds HC 30 - Albany 27 HC 29 - Furman 24 HC 28 - Idaho 31 HC 27 - Villanova 28 HC 24 - SD 23 HC 21 - SDSU 38 HC 23 - Montana 30 HC 28 - Montana St 35
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