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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Nov 18, 2023 16:43:42 GMT -5
UConn, yes. UMass, that $$ is coming out of my taxes so no way. And I don't think it's out of the question that UMass will play at Fitton. That UMass money isn't coming out of your taxes. It is coming from their other buy games which pay close to 2 million dollars for a single game. Money is fungible; it's still coming out of my taxes. If they don't pay us they keep it and that's 475K less than Beacon Hill needs to allocate.
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Post by midwestsader05 on Nov 18, 2023 18:41:42 GMT -5
I have the 8 seeds right now as: Top 3 - SDSU, Montana, USD Next 2 - Idaho (needs a convincing win today), Furman (even after a bad loss to Wofford today. Stating QB didn’t play so his status for playoffs might matter. Final 3 - Austin Peay (if they hold off UCA), Albany, Villanova Here’s what I have right now. 26 teams in contention. Final 2 will be very disappointed. Top 8 - above w/ NDSU right there at 8-3 (in control v UNI at half 27-10). I would be surprised if the sneak in ahead of APSU or if Idaho gets upset tonight. AQ bids not in Top 8 Gardner Webb Nicholls Duquesne Lafayette Drake That’s 13 total. At large bids not in Top 8 NDSU (lock) Montana St (lock) Mercer (lock) UND (lock) Youngstown State (lock) NC Central (lock) Delaware (lock) Final 6 on bubble competing for last 4 spots: Southern Illinois Chattanooga UC Davis Richmond UIW Sac State Outside bubble looking in: Eastern Illinois UT Martin Western Carolina Holy Cross (I think we are right there with those 6 teams on the bubble and likely in at 8-3 if we knock off BC or Army) Central Arkansas
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Post by cmo on Nov 18, 2023 19:05:57 GMT -5
Sucks being left out, but I’d rather go to Army and BC and lose by 3, than play sacred heart and Stoney Brook and get in.
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Post by cruskater31 on Nov 18, 2023 19:41:57 GMT -5
Sucks being left out, but I’d rather go to Army and BC and lose by 3, than play sacred heart and Stoney Brook and get in. getting in the playoffs is an accomplishment in and of itself as an at-large (means more than the likes of Drake and Duquesne auto-bid). Getting in means hope of reaching Frisco. I'll take playoffs anyway any year. Good for recruiting also. Leg up on the Ivies.
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Post by Ignutz on Nov 18, 2023 19:49:33 GMT -5
Not enough with i.) being PL co-champ, ii.)two losses vs. FCS bowl-bound teams by three points each, iii.) our two FCS losses against conference co-champs, iv.) beating the IL co-champ convincingly, v.) having an All-America QB, vi.) having an All-America WR, vii.) having an All-America LB, and viii.) showing as well as any team in last year’s tourney??
It’s neither the resume that we wanted, nor that we expected, but Ihaven’t given up yet, and will be in front of my television at 12:30 tomorrow afternoon. ✝️
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Post by cmo on Nov 18, 2023 19:56:35 GMT -5
Sucks being left out, but I’d rather go to Army and BC and lose by 3, than play sacred heart and Stoney Brook and get in. getting in the playoffs is an accomplishment in and of itself as an at-large (means more than the likes of Drake and Duquesne auto-bid). Getting in means hope of reaching Frisco. I'll take playoffs anyway any year. Good for recruiting also. Leg up on the Ivies. I like the 1-AA playoffs, but if getting in meant not playing BC and Army, I wouldn’t trade it. Those losses should be worth more than beating Bryant and Stonehill
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Post by hcpride on Nov 18, 2023 20:06:55 GMT -5
Sucks being left out, but I’d rather go to Army and BC and lose by 3, than play sacred heart and Stoney Brook and get in. Losing to Army and BC by 3 is not why we’re out.
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Post by cruskater31 on Nov 18, 2023 20:07:10 GMT -5
Definitely. I mean with a weaker schedule you have to be at least 9-2 if not 10-1 to get in. I'm not even a fan of the MAC buy games. I'd rather rotate between BC, Army, Cuse, and maybe throw in some academic P5 like Duke (who played Laffy), UNC, UVA, and Vandy.
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Post by hc1998 on Nov 18, 2023 20:08:28 GMT -5
Not enough with i.) being PL co-champ, ii.)two losses vs. FCS bowl-bound teams by three points each, iii.) our two FCS losses against conference co-champs, iv.) beating the IL co-champ convincingly, v.) having an All-America QB, vi.) having an All-America WR, vii.) having an All-America LB, and viii.) showing as well as any team in last year’s tourney?? It’s neither the resume that we wanted, nor that we expected, but Ihaven’t given up yet, and will be in front of my television at 12:30 tomorrow afternoon. ✝️ Watching NFL pregame I hope...taking nothing away from this team, which is amazing, but we have 0 shot of making the playoffs
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Post by sader81 on Nov 18, 2023 20:54:22 GMT -5
We’ve come a long way when 7-4 is a disappointing season.
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Post by deep Purple on Nov 18, 2023 21:15:05 GMT -5
FCS records of at-large candidate/bubble teams.
ND State 8-3 Montana state- 8-3, one of those wins was over a non-scholarship Pioneer league team. Mercer 8-2, one win over a Pioneer league team. North Dakota 7-3, one win over a Pioneer league team. Youngstown state 7-3, one win over a Pioneer league team. NC Central 8-1 Delaware 8-2 Eastern Illinois 8-2 UT Martin 8-2 Western Carolina 7-3 Central Arkansas 6-3 Southern Illinois 6-4, fbs win over Northern Illinois Chattanooga 7-3 UC Davis 7-3 Sacramento state 6-4, fbs win over Stanford Richmond 8-2 Idaho 7-2, fbs win over Nevada. Incarnate Word 7-1 Holy Cross 7-2
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Nov 18, 2023 21:32:49 GMT -5
I have the 8 seeds right now as: Top 3 - SDSU, Montana, USD Next 2 - Idaho (needs a convincing win today), Furman (even after a bad loss to Wofford today. Stating QB didn’t play so his status for playoffs might matter. Final 3 - Austin Peay (if they hold off UCA), Albany, Villanova Here’s what I have right now. 26 teams in contention. Final 2 will be very disappointed. Top 8 - above w/ NDSU right there at 8-3 (in control v UNI at half 27-10). I would be surprised if the sneak in ahead of APSU or if Idaho gets upset tonight. AQ bids not in Top 8 Gardner Webb Nicholls Duquesne Lafayette Drake That’s 13 total. At large bids not in Top 8 NDSU (lock) Montana St (lock) Mercer (lock) UND (lock) Youngstown State (lock) NC Central (lock) Delaware (lock) Final 6 on bubble competing for last 4 spots: Southern Illinois Chattanooga UC Davis Richmond UIW Sac State Outside bubble looking in: Eastern Illinois UT Martin Western Carolina Holy Cross (I think we are right there with those 6 teams on the bubble and likely in at 8-3 if we knock off BC or Army) Central Arkansas I’m not so sure I’d say the 7-4 Valley teams you have listed here are locks, particularly Youngstown. They’re close to the bubble than you’d think. I think going 5-3 in the Valley carries weight, but I just don’t know if I’d be comfortable saying they’re locks. NC Central is probably on the right side of the bubble, but don’t believe they’re a sure thing. Look at their schedule and wins closer. Non-D1 win over Winston Salem State, bad loss to Howard, and exactly one win over a team with a winning record (Elon).
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Nov 18, 2023 21:40:08 GMT -5
We might have a glimmer of hope if the committee really gives us credit for two close FBS losses and a pretty strong strength of schedule. Not many FCS teams play two FBS opponents, along with playing them as competitive as we did.
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Post by alum on Nov 18, 2023 21:47:31 GMT -5
I think Midwest nails the field and I think that Sac State and UIW are out. I think Chattanooga is the last team in. Have to think Tenn Martin might have gotten in with a win over Samford. Agree with SOV that NC Central is likely overrated but they are probably good enough
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Post by alum on Nov 18, 2023 21:48:27 GMT -5
One more win, even Harvard, and we would be in this field.
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Post by midwestsader05 on Nov 18, 2023 22:02:28 GMT -5
Herder has my same 26 with Chatty and UIW out. Has Montana State as the 8 seed edging out NDSU and Austin Peay.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Nov 18, 2023 22:11:50 GMT -5
Craig Haley is not a voice I put much stock in, but he’s a “national” guy…
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Post by midwestsader05 on Nov 18, 2023 22:20:29 GMT -5
Craig Haley is not a voice I put much stock in, but he’s a “national” guy… Unlike some others, Haley has an east coast bias. Loves the Ivies especially. Herder is much more in tune IMO. I also don’t get how folks can have SIU in over YSU when YSU destroyed them and have a better record in the MVC 5-3 v 4-4. SIU had a great OOC but that would be bad form.
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Post by cruskater31 on Nov 18, 2023 22:38:45 GMT -5
SIU has an FBS win and a ranked win over Austin Peay so I think they are a 7-4 team getting in likely over Sac State, Chatty, and us. Ranked wins carry a lot of weight each year it seems (and it seems like Midwest bias each year so perhaps a RW over a Valley or Sky team carries a bit more weight). Bring back the East coast bias of the 20s and 30s!
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Post by hc1998 on Nov 18, 2023 22:41:31 GMT -5
We might have a glimmer of hope if the committee really gives us credit for two close FBS losses and a pretty strong strength of schedule. Not many FCS teams play two FBS opponents, along with playing them as competitive as we did. Who have we beaten? We aren't making the playoffs on the basis of good losses
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Post by efg72 on Nov 18, 2023 23:08:01 GMT -5
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Post by cruskater31 on Nov 18, 2023 23:08:08 GMT -5
Reading the brackets tonight is amusing. Haley and Becton have Sac State in and UCD out. Herder has the opposite. Becton has UIW while the other two do not. Becton and Haley have UT Martin and YSU while Herder does not. All 3 have Eastern Ill, Chatt. and Western Carolina out. Becton and Herder have HC out. From what I can tell, Herder is a bit more accurate and seems to have a better pulse on the national scene/committee. Seedings are a bit off among the 3 also. Lot' of fun looking at it.
Both Herder and Haley have both Villanova and Albany getting seeds with Albany owning the head to head receiving the higher bid. Haley gives the 8 to NDSU while Herder rewards Mont St for their epic no show with an 8 seed. Not a surprise but 1-3 is the same for Herder and Haley. I don't see Haley's bracket coming to fruition but I'd take a matchup at Delaware and a 2nd round at Albany. Just don't see it happening. Too much in front of us.
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Post by fillfittonfield on Nov 18, 2023 23:13:23 GMT -5
Craig Haley is not a voice I put much stock in, but he’s a “national” guy… Unlike some others, Haley has an east coast bias. Loves the Ivies especially. Herder is much more in tune IMO. I also don’t get how folks can have SIU in over YSU when YSU destroyed them and have a better record in the MVC 5-3 v 4-4. SIU had a great OOC but that would be bad form. Haley has us playing at Delaware in the first round. theanalyst.com/2023/11/fcs-bracketology-projecting-the-playoff-field/
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Post by hchoops on Nov 18, 2023 23:23:11 GMT -5
What time and channel is the selection show ? 12:30 ESPNU
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Post by bfoley82 on Nov 18, 2023 23:43:19 GMT -5
We’ve come a long way when 7-4 is a disappointing season. When you are preseason number 5 team in the nation and don't make the playoffs, it is a disappointment.
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