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Post by hcpride on Nov 24, 2023 15:45:29 GMT -5
Limited upside at Syracuse - certainly lots of financial / salary incentives for Chesney but he should exercise due diligence in seeing how they plan to compete at the top of the ACC. Would indeed be fascinating if there’s at part of any deal that includes Sluka to join him as the qb in 2024 Upside might be all relative. If Holy Cross is a stepping stone to a Syracuse level job, then maybe Syracuse is a stepping stone to a big time P5 job. You win eight and nine games a few years in a row and make an appearance in an ACC championship game, and all of a sudden your name might get mentioned for the real big time jobs. And worse case (the down side) you quintuple (or more) your salary for three-four years and head back to FCS (everybody knows the limitations at Syracuse and the great turnaround success BC had at HC).
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Post by efg72 on Nov 24, 2023 16:08:43 GMT -5
With FBS realignment, including the portal and NIL, I don’t see how Syracuse or BC are programs that can get to 8-3 and position a coach to leave for a better job.
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Post by cruskater31 on Nov 24, 2023 16:08:53 GMT -5
Miami 28 @ BC 7 (half time) FWIW Dan Mullen is one of the commentators at the game for ABC. ""Hafley! YOU COULDNT COACH A MASSACHUSETTS HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL TEAM, YOU BUM!" All HS coaches now feel disrespected.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 24, 2023 16:36:39 GMT -5
With FBS realignment, including the portal and NIL, I don’t see how Syracuse or BC are programs that can get to 8-3 and position a coach to leave for a better job. Unless FBS realignment places them ultimately in a league purely made up of their peers for the most part. In 5 years, I don't expect to see Florida State and Clemson playing in the same conference as BC, Pitt, Georgia Tech and Syracuse.
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Post by efg72 on Nov 24, 2023 16:40:02 GMT -5
If a stepping stone the coach will be there 3-4 years😎
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Post by lou on Nov 24, 2023 16:58:26 GMT -5
On Monday, Wildhack in a press conference clarified that preferred candidates to replace Babers included those who can gear recruitment to the New England and Mid-Atlantic states, have a connection of some kind to the Northeast and ideally possess previous Power 5 experience as a coach, coordinator or assistant.
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Post by mm67 on Nov 24, 2023 17:46:12 GMT -5
Re: Chesney FBS coaching. Despite my irrational bias I believe BC would be preferable to Syracuse. Why? BC has a relatively higher academic standard for its athletes. Its integrity is not an issue. Syracuse? Meh. In my blighted opinion ND is the gold standard. I think Coach Chesney is a high integrity guy.He deserves better than Syracuse. However, I will root for his teams to the depths of hell as I suspect will HC alums. We love this guy not only for his success but for who he is. He has my full support & respect. Of course, who cares about my opinion? Nobody.
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 24, 2023 17:49:25 GMT -5
I care!💜
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Post by mm67 on Nov 24, 2023 17:52:22 GMT -5
You understand. Thank you.
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Post by ts1970 on Nov 24, 2023 17:55:07 GMT -5
I like to read all of the opinions (save for maybe one) posted here, including yours.
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Post by efg72 on Nov 24, 2023 18:07:56 GMT -5
With FBS realignment, including the portal and NIL, I don’t see how Syracuse or BC are programs that can get to 8-3 and position a coach to leave for a better job. Unless FBS realignment places them ultimately in a league purely made up of their peers for the most part. In 5 years, I don't expect to see Florida State and Clemson playing in the same conference as BC, Pitt, Georgia Tech and Syracuse. In 5 years you might see a conference that includes many of these teams BC Pitt Syracuse Rutgers Virginia Duke UMass UConn Temple Villanova Fordham Holy Cross
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Post by tj on Nov 24, 2023 18:16:58 GMT -5
Unless FBS realignment places them ultimately in a league purely made up of their peers for the most part. In 5 years, I don't expect to see Florida State and Clemson playing in the same conference as BC, Pitt, Georgia Tech and Syracuse. In 5 years you might see a conference that includes many of these teams BC Pitt Syracuse Rutgers Virginia Duke UMass UConn Temple Villanova Fordham Holy Cross Now that would be a fun conference. Maybe it could be called the Big East
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Post by hchoops on Nov 24, 2023 18:22:53 GMT -5
Unless FBS realignment places them ultimately in a league purely made up of their peers for the most part. In 5 years, I don't expect to see Florida State and Clemson playing in the same conference as BC, Pitt, Georgia Tech and Syracuse. In 5 years you might see a conference that includes many of these teams BC Pitt Syracuse Rutgers Virginia Duke UMass UConn Temple Villanova Fordham Holy Cross Many realistic possibilities here, but outside of HC, to me the biggest question would be why would Rutgers ever leave the money of the more powerful than now Big 10 ? And I do not see the conference forcing any member out, especially the furthest eastern member. .
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Post by efg72 on Nov 24, 2023 18:29:06 GMT -5
In 5 years you might see a conference that includes many of these teams BC Pitt Syracuse Rutgers Virginia Duke UMass UConn Temple Villanova Fordham Holy Cross Many realistic possibilities here, but outside of HC, to me the biggest question would be why would Rutgers ever leave the money of the more powerful than now Big 10 ? And I do not see the conference forcing any member out, especially the furthest eastern member. . Rutgers gross to net on this Big 10 experiment is a negative in so many ways
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Post by efg72 on Nov 24, 2023 18:31:38 GMT -5
This would be an FCS plus, or FBS light football offering with institutions that might make sense in the current world of college athletics
What say you?
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Post by DFW HOYA on Nov 24, 2023 18:32:06 GMT -5
Unless FBS realignment places them ultimately in a league purely made up of their peers for the most part. In 5 years, I don't expect to see Florida State and Clemson playing in the same conference as BC, Pitt, Georgia Tech and Syracuse. In 5 years you might see a conference that includes many of these teams BC Pitt Syracuse Rutgers Virginia Duke UMass UConn Temple Villanova Fordham Holy CrossWhich of these three are not like the others? Less than zero chance Syracuse is playing at Jack Coffey/Moglia Stadium in our lifetimes.
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Post by efg72 on Nov 24, 2023 18:35:17 GMT -5
I offered a menu and agree Syracuse wouldn't do it, but then again it makes the case for the Syracuse and BC jobs have no future.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 24, 2023 18:41:04 GMT -5
Unless FBS realignment places them ultimately in a league purely made up of their peers for the most part. In 5 years, I don't expect to see Florida State and Clemson playing in the same conference as BC, Pitt, Georgia Tech and Syracuse. In 5 years you might see a conference that includes many of these teams BC Pitt Syracuse Rutgers Virginia Duke UMass UConn Temple Villanova Fordham Holy Cross The below is probably a lot closer to what we'll see: Syracuse Boston College UConn Temple Pitt Duke Wake Forest Georgia Tech Tulane SMU Rice Cal + Stanford until they find a way to get into the Big 12 Maybe Vanderbilt and Northwestern at some conjuncture. UMass? Nah.
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Post by hc87 on Nov 24, 2023 18:43:34 GMT -5
Who knows? But Mullen seems to be emerging as the SU next coach according to their board. The Chesney thread there has veered off to mostly a discussion of high school/youth sports participation ala Crossports. I think we're going to see a lot of this moving forward with Coach Ray-Bans as the carousel goes round and round.
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Post by mm67 on Nov 24, 2023 18:55:29 GMT -5
I like to read all of the opinions (save for maybe one) posted here, including yours. Thank you.
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Post by mm67 on Nov 24, 2023 19:21:24 GMT -5
Coach Ches can "have it all" at HC if he so chooses. Salary, no problem. HC will do the right thing. But HC offers more than salary. He will never work with better people - students -athletes & the student body, assistants, administrators, the Worcester community & us - than he meets at HC. HC should pull out all the stops & offer him a lifetime intergenerational commitment. I realized years ago that ambition can involve going up but instead it can also involve going deeper in a more meaningful way. Teachers who rejected the "upward" path of administration to stay in the deeper, more meaningful classroom understand. (No criticism of any administrators named Bob or others intended.) I believe Coach Ches will find the greatest fulfillment in the deepest sense at HC.
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Post by hc2020 on Nov 24, 2023 19:56:37 GMT -5
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Post by hchoops on Nov 24, 2023 20:54:52 GMT -5
I do not like the looks of this.
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Post by dharry13 on Nov 24, 2023 21:24:51 GMT -5
In that article it’s everything we already know. Ches or Mullen. And insider people at Cuse are touting Mullen. Who knows but Herders article is nothing different than what we all know.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 24, 2023 21:32:40 GMT -5
We must hope that Syracuse will follow the lead of 95% of teams and make the "safe" choice that cannot be questioned: a retread coach from D-1 FBS.
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