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Post by midwestsader05 on Dec 7, 2023 0:50:24 GMT -5
Since the other thread went on for a ridiculous amount about the band: I’ll start with most logical names. Search should and will likely be focused on probably a half dozen or so names. My best guess:
Top Internal: 1) Scott James - possible interim HC while search is conducted? I don’t see him going to VA with Ches. 2) Chris Smith - yes he’s been gone for a year but I consider him an internal candidate. Might Ches approach him for OL or even OC? Odds are likely high. Cigentti took a big chunk of the staff to IU so lots of holes to fill down there.
Top External: 1) Dan Curran - Merrimack HC - just signed a contract extension this post season. What does the buyout look like? Respected coach that can recruit and develops tough/physical teams. 2) Mike Toerper - Ithaca HC - Safeties Coach at Holy Cross for two seasons under Chesney (‘20 and ‘21). 21-4 record in first 2 years at IC. Extremely well thought of among both coaches and players. “The next Chesney” according to many. Do a quick you tube search on him and watch his interviews. It will become obvious very quick why folks think he has that “it” factor and is going bigger places now or very soon. 3) Glenn Caruso - St. Thomas (MN) HC - Northeast roots but been at St Thomas for ~15 years with an excellent long term track record. Been on the radar of several HC folks for a while. I believe he was approached for the opening in 2017 but unsure how far it went. 4) Chris Pincince - New Haven HC since 2014 - Holy Cross WR coach then OC 2004-2007.
Longer shots that could seek an interview and spent time on the Chesney coaching tree: 1) Rich Gunnell - tough to see someone on the current staff getting the job over James if it goes internal but I think Coach Gunnell will also want to stay in NE rather than VA. 2) Anthony Barese - Bryant DC - Holy Cross DB coach 2018-2019 3) Patrick Murphy - URI OC - Holy Cross OC 2018-2019
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Post by bfoley82 on Dec 7, 2023 1:07:09 GMT -5
Since the other thread went on for a ridiculous amount about the band: I’ll start with most logical names. Search should and will likely be focused on probably a half dozen or so names. My best guess to start: Internal: 1) Scott James - possible interim HC while search is conducted? I don’t see him going to VA with Ches. 2) Chris Smith - yes he’s been gone for a year but I consider him an internal candidate. Might Ches approach him for OL or even OC? Odds are likely high. Cigentti took a big chunk of the staff to IU so lots of holes to fill. External: 1) Dan Curran - Merrimack HC - just signed a contract extension this post season. What does the buyout look like? Respected coach that can recruit and develops tough/physical teams. 2) Mike Toerper - Ithaca HC - DB’s Coach at Holy Cross for two seasons under Chesney (‘20 and ‘21). 21-4 record in first 2 years at IC. Extremely well thought of among both coaches and players. “The next Chesney” according to many. Do a quick you tube search on him and watch his interviews. It will become obvious very quick why folks think he has that “it” factor and is going bigger places now or very soon. 3) Glenn Caruso - St. Thomas (MN) HC - Northeast roots but been at St Thomas for ~15 years with an excellent long term track record. Been on the radar of several HC folks for a while. I believe he was approached for the opening in 2017 but unsure how far it went. St. Thomas (MN) I believe has some money for the athletic department as seen by who they hired to be their hockey coach.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Dec 7, 2023 1:09:53 GMT -5
I like the “Chesney Model”, a proven head coach even if from a lower division
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Post by hcpride on Dec 7, 2023 3:27:17 GMT -5
I like the “Chesney Model”, a proven head coach even if from a lower division Also known as the “Rick Carter/Bob Chesney Model”.
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Post by hcnj on Dec 7, 2023 3:37:54 GMT -5
Thanks for rescuing this topic from the band. Regarding Chris Smith. I wouldn't be surprised if BC wanted him but I also don't know why he'd take an asst position at JMU if we offered the HC position. On the external list I appreciate the snapshot of Toerper from Ithaca. I don't follow the coaching scene but he seems like a very attractive candidate as well. I don't remember him from HC. Another guy that seems would sign in a flash as would Coach James.
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Post by alum on Dec 7, 2023 3:53:05 GMT -5
Woke up and looked at this. Oh well.
Thanks to midwest for posting some names. I agree with KY about the Chesney/Carter model. I could like Pincince a lot.
As to Chris Smith, any chance that the stop at Teterboro the other day was for the JMU people to meet him?
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Dec 7, 2023 4:10:53 GMT -5
Caruso is really interesting to me, Midwest.
Another name I will throw out and why he’s a good candidate — Kevin Decker, OC at ODU.
- Former OC at Fordham and Brown, so he understands PL/Ivy recruiting circles. - Knows how to develop talent (see: Tim DeMorat) - A northeast guy. From Armonk, NY and went to prep school in CT. He knows the exact kind of kids we get at HC. - CAA Offensive POY in the CAA in 2012 as QB at UNH (he was actually recruited by FHCTG out of high school). He reminds me a bit of Anthony DiMichele — connects incredibly well with players and is a strong recruiter. - Friendly with current HC OL coach Zarkoskie (who knows whether he’s off to JMU or not)
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Post by alum on Dec 7, 2023 5:44:15 GMT -5
BTW—Just tried to look at the JMU board. It is down. Can you imagine?
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Post by hc1996 on Dec 7, 2023 7:05:48 GMT -5
I think HC should have a conversation with Reno from Yale. He’s done really well there. Massachusetts guy. I actually think he lives in MA now! HC would be a nice upgrade compared to Yale, just my opinion.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Dec 7, 2023 7:10:08 GMT -5
BTW—Just tried to look at the JMU board. It is down. Can you imagine? Hcross 99 broke the internet
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Post by drjack on Dec 7, 2023 7:24:00 GMT -5
Man I would be pissed if Chris Smith (just in general, not at Chris) goes on to be their OC.
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Post by sader1970 on Dec 7, 2023 7:40:53 GMT -5
While I appreciate the reasoning for this thread, I feel it is inappropriately premature.
I will try to avoid it until an announcement is made one way or the other but like a car wreck, it might be hard to ignore.
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Post by crusader12 on Dec 7, 2023 8:04:19 GMT -5
According to Jake Springer and flight tracker Flight N525DP leaving from Lynchburg at 10:28am today for Worcester, MA Turning right back around and landing in SHD at 1:32pm. It appears that JMU has found their coach. Hope I am wrong but it doesn't look good for us. Hopefully ADKH is already on the phone talking with possible candidates.
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Post by spenser on Dec 7, 2023 8:05:15 GMT -5
I think HC should have a conversation with Reno from Yale. He’s done really well there. Massachusetts guy. I actually think he lives in MA now! HC would be a nice upgrade compared to Yale, just my opinion. He is the Joel Smilow football coach at Yale. It’s an endowed position. He makes more money than we would be willing to pay.
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Post by drjack on Dec 7, 2023 8:21:13 GMT -5
According to Jake Springer and flight tracker Flight N525DP leaving from Lynchburg at 10:28am today for Worcester, MA Turning right back around and landing in SHD at 1:32pm. It appears that JMU has found their coach. Hope I am wrong but it doesn't look good for us. Hopefully ADKH is already on the phone talking with possible candidates. It's done. I get people want to wait for a confirmation, but theres no reason for these flights if it wasn't BC. I really hope we move quickly here
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Post by alum on Dec 7, 2023 8:21:27 GMT -5
I think HC should have a conversation with Reno from Yale. He’s done really well there. Massachusetts guy. I actually think he lives in MA now! HC would be a nice upgrade compared to Yale, just my opinion. He is the Joel Smilow football coach at Yale. It’s an endowed position. He makes more money than we would be willing to pay. I doubt seriously that Reno would want to leave his Yale job, but I don't really know how much he makes. Don't put a lot of stock in the fact that the position is endowed. Mr. Smilow only paid $1 million to create it so unless someone added to it, the endowment does not come close to covering the salary. www.nytimes.com/1988/09/14/nyregion/another-endowment-at-yale-but-this-one-s-in-football.html
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Post by midwestsader05 on Dec 7, 2023 8:30:44 GMT -5
Caruso is really interesting to me, Midwest. Another name I will throw out and why he’s a good candidate — Kevin Decker, OC at ODU. - Former OC at Fordham and Brown, so he understands PL/Ivy recruiting circles. - Knows how to develop talent (see: Tim DeMorat) - A northeast guy. From Armonk, NY and went to prep school in CT. He knows the exact kind of kids we get at HC. - CAA Offensive POY in the CAA in 2012 as QB at UNH (he was actually recruited by FHCTG out of high school). He reminds me a bit of Anthony DiMichele — connects incredibly well with players and is a strong recruiter. - Friendly with current HC OL coach Zarkoskie (who knows whether he’s off to JMU or not) Good call on Decker SOV. I would note on your bottom point that the OL coach at JMU hasn’t followed Cig to IU (guy is beloved at JMU) so Zar might be staying at HC which would be good for continuity.
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Post by hc1996 on Dec 7, 2023 8:36:50 GMT -5
He is the Joel Smilow football coach at Yale. It’s an endowed position. He makes more money than we would be willing to pay. I doubt seriously that Reno would want to leave his Yale job, but I don't really know how much he makes. Don't put a lot of stock in the fact that the position is endowed. Mr. Smilow only paid $1 million to create it so unless someone added to it, the endowment does not come close to covering the salary. www.nytimes.com/1988/09/14/nyregion/another-endowment-at-yale-but-this-one-s-in-football.htmlHe's done solid work at Yale and he's a Massachusetts guy! It's killing me but there was a quote somewhere where he said something along the lines of not being excited that they can't prove themselves in the postseason. If we can pay him more than Yale, and give him the chance to beat the Dakotas, this may be an awesome fit!
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Post by inhocsigno on Dec 7, 2023 8:43:29 GMT -5
My hope is that ADKH has a file ready to go and is already vetting. He should be on an immediate call with Maloney, Larry, Artie, 1843 Collective folks, Gordie, (other influentials), and get their feedback - want to keep them engaged and ready to help.
I like Smith (passion for the purple) and James for continuity.
I am not fan of hiring from other PL programs, but I have heard great things about RYAN ROEDER at Laf. Not sure if he was the experience to be head coach, but he would come with some good recommendations. Can also call Tim O'Donnell at NYG for information.
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Post by hcpride on Dec 7, 2023 9:16:50 GMT -5
Since we are in a MUCH better position program-wise than last time we were looking for a Head Coach, there might be a very talented up-and-comer OC/DC from elsewhere in the FCS willing to apply.
Might sound like it is too conventional but we could land a great one by going this route. That sort of quality candidate can see the Holy Cross admin support for our football program, the very recent high national rank for our football program, and the fact that our coach stepped up directly to FBS.
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Post by hcpride on Dec 7, 2023 9:21:25 GMT -5
He is the Joel Smilow football coach at Yale. It’s an endowed position. He makes more money than we would be willing to pay. I doubt seriously that Reno would want to leave his Yale job, but I don't really know how much he makes. Don't put a lot of stock in the fact that the position is endowed. Mr. Smilow only paid $1 million to create it so unless someone added to it, the endowment does not come close to covering the salary. www.nytimes.com/1988/09/14/nyregion/another-endowment-at-yale-but-this-one-s-in-football.htmlThat is a great point and I think a commonly (mis)held assumption on this board that an endowed position necessarily means a very highly compensated position. It merely describes the source (or partial source) of the funding for the position.
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Post by Ray on Dec 7, 2023 9:29:18 GMT -5
Bring Chris Smith home. Hopefully he's on his way up I-84 right now.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Dec 7, 2023 9:29:58 GMT -5
Bring Chris Smith home. Hopefully he's on his way up I-84 right now. Sometimes the easiest and obvious answer is the right one.
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Post by HC92 on Dec 7, 2023 9:36:30 GMT -5
My short list in order: 1. Smith 2. Toerper 3. Reno 4. Caruso
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Post by gks on Dec 7, 2023 9:38:59 GMT -5
Chris Smith is obviously the guy. Toerper is a great choice as well.
I like Tony Reno. He's a local guy. NO to any Ivy coach....Why would he come anyways? He has to win one game a year and unlimited resources.
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