xhaav
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Post by xhaav on Feb 17, 2024 15:14:00 GMT -5
Any early reads on stats? Admission rate, etc?
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Feb 17, 2024 18:39:07 GMT -5
Any early reads on stats? Admission rate, etc? The class has not been fully admitted yet. Only EDs. No data on total number of applicants. Only a few schools have released info on total number of applicants. Bowdoin 13,200, up 20 percent, and a record Marquette 18,000, up 20 percent. There is more info on Early Decision / Early Action applicants, but HC is not included in the list of 25 or schools that have released these statistics.
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Post by xhaav on Feb 17, 2024 21:05:35 GMT -5
Crazy how many schools kids apply to these days. I have to imagine that is in part what is driving the sheer number of applicants up.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Feb 18, 2024 7:51:07 GMT -5
Crazy how many schools kids apply to these days. I have to imagine that is in part what is driving the sheer number of applicants up. The Common App is responsible for much of it.
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Post by mm67 on Feb 18, 2024 9:58:32 GMT -5
Obviously, with so many applications sent, many to safety schools, yield is a more important indicator. But admissions overall are a very limited measure of a school's quality.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Feb 18, 2024 10:42:13 GMT -5
What percentage of colleges offer free applications? With the Common Ap and no charge to apply, students would be able to apply to countless colleges--not even requiring the price of a stamp with on-line applications?
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Post by purplehaze on Feb 18, 2024 15:30:56 GMT -5
I remember when my daughter was applying to colleges 5 years ago there was no application charge for Marquette - no this drives their high app numbers
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Feb 20, 2024 19:17:05 GMT -5
Tufts 34, 400 total applications Brown 48,881 down 5 percent from last year Bowdoin 13,200 highest ever.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Feb 20, 2024 19:24:52 GMT -5
Why would Tufts have so many more applications than Bowdoin?
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Feb 20, 2024 19:30:21 GMT -5
Why would Tufts have so many more applications than Bowdoin? Bigger school... Undergraduate enrollment is about 3x higher than Bowdoin's. Plus it has an engineering program.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Feb 20, 2024 19:33:32 GMT -5
From an interview that VR had with the editors of The Spire several weeks ago.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Feb 21, 2024 7:30:24 GMT -5
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Post by hc6774 on Feb 21, 2024 7:50:33 GMT -5
It might be interesting to see if there is any overlap in the 46 with Athletic Dpt recruiting.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Feb 21, 2024 7:54:22 GMT -5
It might be interesting to see if there is any overlap in the 46 with Athletic Dpt recruiting. The 46 are all full rides, no loans. But they would be counters in football and hoops.
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Post by hc6774 on Feb 21, 2024 8:09:36 GMT -5
It might be interesting to see if there is any overlap in the 46 with Athletic Dpt recruiting. The 46 are all full rides, no loans. But they would be counters in football and hoops. p/w/o's yes, but true w/o's who try out for a roster spot? Full rides with Pell grants?... about 10% of HC's COA (full ride)
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Post by purplenurple on Feb 21, 2024 10:28:14 GMT -5
The schools we should be in conversation with when speaking of our peers.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Feb 21, 2024 11:03:02 GMT -5
The schools we should be in conversation with when speaking of our peers. Amen! These Questbridge students must be doing well at their matriculating colleges. Otherwise, colleges wouldn't keep returning to this source if students were struggling academically.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Feb 21, 2024 12:03:58 GMT -5
The two other Catholic schools are Notre Dame and BC. Villanova is likely the next one on this list.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Feb 21, 2024 16:15:11 GMT -5
The two other Catholic schools are Notre Dame and BC. Villanova is likely the next one on this list. Harvard is the only IL school that is not a partner. I think becoming a partner school is a bilateral decision by both Questbridge and the prospective partner school. Holy Cross joined under Boroughs, and it was tied to the College seeking to become more national in its outreach. I think there is a two-year transition between when a school becomes a partner, and when it can start participating in the "match". There is a strong emphasis on the National LACs. 23 of the 50+ partner schools are LACs. Looking at the USN&WR Top 25 list, if one subtracts the USNA, USMA, and USAFA, HC would probably hold position 21 or 22 on the USN&WR Top 25 list, if it were a ranking of Questbridge partners. IMO, HC was/is certainly on the cusp of 'getting in', and was possibly helped by the Agnes Williams financial aid initiative. On an endowment per student basis, HC is near the very bottom but above BC and BU. Of the Claremont colleges, Pomona, Claremont McKenna, and Scripps are partners. Harvey Mudd (science and engineering) and Pitzer (business) are not. The other three are liberal arts.. The matches seem to be similar to the process used by hospitals to match medical school students with residency programs. For residencies, the soon to be med school graduate ranks his/her preferred hospital choices from 1-20. For Questbridge, the student ranks schools 1-15. For Questbridge, students who are not matched go to the regular admissions pool. About 40 percent of Questbridge students are admitted regular admissions. It is possible, but, IMO, probably unlikely that HC could admit additional Questbridge students in the regular admissions cycle.
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Post by xhaav on Feb 21, 2024 20:03:33 GMT -5
From an interview that VR had with the editors of The Spire several weeks ago. This is great stuff - thanks for posting!
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Post by xhaav on Feb 21, 2024 20:08:37 GMT -5
The schools we should be in conversation with when speaking of our peers. You’re right - it’s a great peer list. Good mix of LACs and Unis, good geographic diversity and types of schools too. That is a list you want to be on. Good company. Surprised Georgetown missing.
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Post by hcpride on Feb 21, 2024 21:47:18 GMT -5
Very familiar with Questbridge.
Since financial aid dollars are zero sum, we have simply moved a portion of our financial aid from one group of students with need to the Questbridge-matched kids with need.
Which some seem to think is a much better thing. OK.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Feb 22, 2024 0:34:03 GMT -5
You’re right - it’s a great peer list. Good mix of LACs and Unis, good geographic diversity and types of schools too. That is a list you want to be on. Good company. Surprised Georgetown missing. Questbridge was a hard "no" at Georgetown. The key selling point to schools with Crossbridge is a curated group of high-achieving first-generation kids that may not be aware of some schools otherwise and the tradeoff is a four year full ride. Georgetown gets a lot of first-gen kids on its own, so recruitment is not the problem. But as Georgetown requires an EFC (expected family contribution) and doesn't offer a full four year ride to anyone, the requirements for a Questbridge match would not be met without it. I suspect the latter also holds true at Harvard.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Feb 22, 2024 7:30:51 GMT -5
You’re right - it’s a great peer list. Good mix of LACs and Unis, good geographic diversity and types of schools too. That is a list you want to be on. Good company. Surprised Georgetown missing. Questbridge was a hard "no" at Georgetown. The key selling point to schools with Crossbridge is a curated group of high-achieving first-generation kids that may not be aware of some schools otherwise and the tradeoff is a four year full ride. Georgetown gets a lot of first-gen kids on its own, so recruitment is not the problem. But as Georgetown requires an EFC (expected family contribution) and doesn't offer a full four year ride to anyone, the requirements for a Questbridge match would not be met without it. I suspect the latter also holds true at Harvard. Re: Harvard Harvard was not sued for 'price-fixing' financial aid. Neither was Princeton. www.washingtonpost.com/education/2024/01/24/colleges-price-fixing-financial-aid-settlement/#:~:text=Nearly%20a%20half%2Ddozen%20of,to%20a%20Tuesday%20court%20filing Harvard with respect to parent contribution (and full ride)
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Post by hcpride on Feb 22, 2024 7:45:23 GMT -5
You’re right - it’s a great peer list. Good mix of LACs and Unis, good geographic diversity and types of schools too. That is a list you want to be on. Good company. Surprised Georgetown missing. Questbridge was a hard "no" at Georgetown. The key selling point to schools with Crossbridge is a curated group of high-achieving first-generation kids that may not be aware of some schools otherwise and the tradeoff is a four year full ride. Georgetown gets a lot of first-gen kids on its own, so recruitment is not the problem. But as Georgetown requires an EFC (expected family contribution) and doesn't offer a full four year ride to anyone, the requirements for a Questbridge match would not be met without it. I suspect the latter also holds true at Harvard. I’d agree those two schools don’t see a need for Questbridge. At the same time you should be aware that hundreds of students attend Harvard cost-free. Completely different financial aid universe as compared to Georgetown.
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