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Post by gks on Apr 12, 2021 15:44:52 GMT -5
I can think of no rational medical pretext for why the parents of one team only can be allowed to enter. Has any explanation been offered? Fear-itis.
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Post by gks on Apr 12, 2021 13:04:57 GMT -5
The only explanation IMO as to why this game is at Bucknell is that the Holy Cross administration wanted nothing to do with it.
There is no other explanation that makes any sense.
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Post by gks on Apr 11, 2021 9:32:58 GMT -5
The conversation about the virus and vaccinations is interesting but since this is a football thread: 1. Bucknell payed a game yesterday 2. Bucknell will (presumably) be able to practice this week 3. HC can't practice 4. HC will have to travel to Bucknell for Saturday's game As much as I want the game how does it make sense for this game to be played? If the Holy Cross campus so infected, what is it 35 cases over the last ten days, then they should let the football team practice at an off campus field.
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Post by gks on Apr 11, 2021 9:31:11 GMT -5
Would think a fair question to ask would be that along with the recent increase (approximate 1% in total) of the student population testing positive -- although does the school report how many students actually display symptoms -- what percentage of students are displaying signs of serious mental health issues (increased anxiety, mental stress, disorders, and the like)? Anybody have any meaningful data on this front whether specific to Holy Cross or even broadly speaking? Who's looking out for the kids? Nailed it. Mental issues don't matter to the Lockdown Crew.
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Post by gks on Apr 11, 2021 9:29:31 GMT -5
I am thankful that the pandemic that has caused our daily routines to change, was not a dual threat of both Covid and Ebola. Waiting to attend outdoor events another couple of months until virus transmission is abated, is a sacrifice I understand is necessary. Staying in a pod for the time being seems sensible for the immediate window.m. What if we’re told we can’t attend next fall either? That would be the ultimate in studpidity. Think about this....you can go to a high school football game in Worcester but not Holy Cross in a giant stadium.
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Post by gks on Apr 10, 2021 20:03:50 GMT -5
I am not panicking but I do want to attend mass, games and have in person school for my grandkids Tested Vaccinated Compliant If you're vaccinated you should be doing all that is open. No need not to .
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Post by gks on Apr 10, 2021 19:57:19 GMT -5
HOLY CROSS IS NOT ALLOWING HOLY CROSS STUDENTS WHO LIVE OFF-CAMPUS TO COME ON CAMPUS. SO WHY WOULD A VISITING FOOTBALL TEAM BE ALLOWED TO COME ON CAMPUS IF THE COLLEGE'S OWN STUDENTS CANNOT? Bucknell was smart enough not to have an Easter break....their football players are in the clear.
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Post by gks on Apr 10, 2021 19:55:14 GMT -5
The announcers for the Fordham Bucknell game said championship at Bucknell Lose and host.....sounds right.
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Post by gks on Apr 10, 2021 19:53:44 GMT -5
Needs to get figured out. Game should be at HC and, if not, a neutral site, never, ever at Bucknell. AD needs to say no. Play at Foley Stadium in Worcester. They allow fans.
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Post by gks on Apr 10, 2021 19:51:47 GMT -5
Covid is real and likely will continue for some period into the future. It is like a very bad flu with deadly impact. With that said many of the more vulnerable and those of us in their 7th decade(60s) and beyond want to live a little before we find out we are done. Like PP I do work in this space/ with government and industry everyday, but at some point in the very near future government needs to get out of the business of controlling our lives. People in their sixties and seventies should be fully vaccinated by now. If you're not you either have an outstanding medical reason, really lazy or just not paying attention. These are younger adults getting this. Stop panicking.
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Post by gks on Apr 9, 2021 11:45:53 GMT -5
Weren't there those that were questioning if Chesney could recruit at D1?
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Post by gks on Apr 9, 2021 11:44:52 GMT -5
Holy Cross is now up to 28 positive cases this week, nine on the 7th, ten on the 8th. If the positive rate doesn't taper down soon, I expect that the college will remain on orange alert, and if the Bucknell game is @ home, no fans in the stands under an orange alert. These cases appear to be infections acquired while students were away from Worcester over Easter 'break' and given low quarantine numbers, suggests there is limited contagion spread on campus. Time will tell. This is what happens when you schedule a break long enough for kids to leave campus and why many, many schools gave no days off this semester and powered through. Self-inflicted wound.
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Post by gks on Apr 7, 2021 15:11:03 GMT -5
The students want the break, the faculty wants the break, families want the break. Really? So just invite a COVID spike so Jimmy and Sally and Dr. Jones can rest? Ridiculous.
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Post by gks on Apr 7, 2021 13:31:49 GMT -5
Ok, I have to say that I am confused. The college takes the potential for virus transmission seriously enough that they only allow a quarter of the number of fans the state would allow in a 23,000 seat stadium but then lets the kids go home for Easter break (really a 6 day break.) I think that their parents could have made arrangements for the Easter bunny to go to their dorm rooms and deliver jelly beans and chocolates. The college discouraged students from going home, and further discouraged them from traveling outside of Massachusetts. However, when you have parking lots full of student cars and no classes scheduled, plus 700? students living off-campus, what can you do? Schedule classes on Holy Thursday, Good Friday, and Easter? , Why would you schedule an Easter Break? Keep the kids occupied and in class. What a dumb decision.
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Post by gks on Apr 3, 2021 9:32:48 GMT -5
The vaccines are being given under an emergency use authorization. You can't mandate that a person be vaccinated under a EUA. I'm confused. A college wouldn't be mandating anyone inject anything into their bodies. A college would be limiting acceptance to applicants who have a high school diploma, who have passed a physical exam, who have paid their tuition, and who are vaccinated. There's a big difference isn't there? Perhaps returning students would have a stronger case than incoming students and perhaps a college could allow non vaccinated remote students while limiting campus access to vaccinated students. If having a vaccine is a requirement of acceptance how is it not a mandate?
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Post by gks on Apr 3, 2021 9:19:08 GMT -5
Holy Cross Football....who has done the right thing, plus gotten lucky, throughout all of this is being punished this weekend. The Patriot League makes no sense. If I'm Chesney I'd be furious that the league did this to me and my team. I am generally not a big fan of PL decision-making but this one makes sense. Gives them a chance to even up all the teams at two games played with a week to go. If there is a miracle and all three game happen next week, all the teams will have played an even number of games and there will be some semblance of fairness to who gets to the title game. We'll agree to disagree. This isn't youth sports. I don't care if Colgate can't get their act together and plays one game. Holy Cross football has done all it can to be as COVID-free as possible...plus like I said some luck involved. They should not be punished. If this is the way the PL wants to run it's football league then don't have playoffs and just do a jamboree or round robin.
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Post by gks on Apr 2, 2021 16:08:04 GMT -5
Cornell is requiring all students to vaccinate for entry onto the campus.Assume other schools including hopefully HC will do the same. Maybe, some might criticize the schools but I cast my lot with the science based approach of Cornell. I have some reservations about any organization mandating a vaccine that is still only authorized under emergency authorization. And yes I am receiving it.
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Post by gks on Apr 2, 2021 16:05:20 GMT -5
Holy Cross Football....who has done the right thing, plus gotten lucky, throughout all of this is being punished this weekend.
The Patriot League makes no sense. If I'm Chesney I'd be furious that the league did this to me and my team.
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Post by gks on Apr 1, 2021 16:19:04 GMT -5
FYI - At the moment, Colgate’s policy is that spectators are not allowed at any of their games. I hope this changes. Wasn’t NY one of the first states in the Northeast to allow limited capacity at outdoor stadiums? Yes. Buffalo had fans at their playoff game I believe.
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Post by gks on Mar 29, 2021 12:08:27 GMT -5
Woodson was a culture hire for Indiana. They wanted an "Indiana" guy.
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Post by gks on Mar 28, 2021 21:01:50 GMT -5
This is ridiculous. The vast majority of college athletes go to class and graduate. The ones that don't never had any desire to do so in the first place. I think you knew that I, for the most part, was referring to schools in the power conferences. Two posters after me shared similar sentiments and anecdotes. When you are instructed to avoid a certain class or major, take less than the allotted time on tests to attend conflicting practices, or enroll in *literally* fake classes, you are not fully utilizing your education. You may, in the most formal sense, "attend class and graduate," but you are certainly not able to fully utilize your educational opportunities. In other threads, I've asserted that there is an unavoidable trade-off between seeking to compete in top D1 athletics and maintaining the full integrity of the student athlete. That's why I am, likely, in the strong minority on this Board who think Fr. Brooks made the right decision. The vast majority of student athletes at Power 5 schools graduate and are successful in their careers. They go to class and do the work and take advantage of the opportunity presented them. When you make comments like these you imply that every kid at (insert Power 5 school here) is taking the easy way out. Holy Cross students do not spend every spare minute doing school work.
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Post by gks on Mar 28, 2021 20:45:21 GMT -5
Larger schools with full summer class sessions have student-athletes take classes year round. I remember reading Victor Oladipo from Indiana graduated in three years. It not only keeps kids on campus year round but allows them to take a reasonable schedule during season where the time demands on them are greatest. Former NFL tight end Christian Fauria is a Sports Radio talker in Boston. He went to Colorado and has had a nephew and a son I believe who have played or are playing FBS ball. He explained that for some lower income scholarship players, it is like a five year lifeline where the student gets great nutritious food year round, housing, academic support, etc. and when the pandemic threatened to disrupt that it would have been quite a burden for some student athletes and their families. You are absolutely correct. It's up to each individual student to take advantage of the opportunity given to him or her.
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Post by gks on Mar 28, 2021 17:24:37 GMT -5
Not saying they are doing anything wrong. Just saying, between school conference jumping and player movement, the sport doesn't quite grab me the way it used to. I'll agree with this. I will add that the lack of players staying 3 or 4 years has hurt college hoops more.
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Post by gks on Mar 28, 2021 16:59:18 GMT -5
mm67 you are so correct! I was at a coaching clinic years ago when one of the speakers talked about the start of his season and the schedule they had. Double sessions on the court, weight room time and individual workouts..When the speaker was asked "when do they go to class?", his response was "In the summer!"... Larger schools with full summer class sessions have student-athletes take classes year round. I remember reading Victor Oladipo from Indiana graduated in three years. It not only keeps kids on campus year round but allows them to take a reasonable schedule during season where the time demands on them are greatest.
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Post by gks on Mar 28, 2021 16:56:05 GMT -5
There are certain majors you simply cannot pull off as a big time athlete. Nursing and education come to mind where at some point you are in a hospital or school all day for a semester' An education can be had if a big time athlete wants it. I'm sure there are also accommodations for big time athletes where they can go through the motions of an education without actually getting one if that's what the athlete wants. Most of the the big time athletic schools aren't like HC. The schools are big enough where that 2:00 English Lit class is also offered at 8:00 AM. Oh and by the way Johnny Averagestudent can quickly get bumped out of that 8:00 class so the athlete can get in. I don't think it's easy. The first lesson of college better be one about time management and you need to learn it fast. It's not easy, but it's doable if the athlete wants to There are no former college student athletes that are now teachers? ? Come on..... As far as "regular" kids getting bumped from prime class time....no problem with this. The time the student-athletes put in for the college they should get this perk.
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