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Post by hcnation on Mar 23, 2017 21:06:13 GMT -5
Just saw Exhibit A about the negative effects of replay. 5 minutes to judge something (out of bounds call in Gonzaga/WV game) anyone could see in about 15 secons, Reversed a call that should have taken 1 minute. Intense game
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Post by cmo on Mar 23, 2017 21:36:31 GMT -5
And I don't think you can have an "inadvertent whistle" based a replay
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Post by HC92 on Mar 23, 2017 23:24:50 GMT -5
And I don't think you can have an "inadvertent whistle" based a replay Correct. The refs totally botched the situation. You will not be seeing that crew again this season.
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Post by sarasota on Mar 23, 2017 23:39:11 GMT -5
In that game an announcer said the player who hit a key 3 at the end of the game took 18 credits in summer school so he could qualify to play on the team. I noted in an earlier post that a summer session at HC could help recruiting and help retention of players.
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Post by bison137 on Mar 24, 2017 0:19:20 GMT -5
In that game an announcer said the player who hit a key 3 at the end of the game took 18 credits in summer school so he could qualify to play on the team. I noted in an earlier post that a summer session at HC could help recruiting and help retention of players. If that report is accurate, then I am sure there was a lot of academic fraud involved. That's six courses in just over seven weeks. Hard to believe a school would allow that course load, and if it is allowed, I am sure that player had a lot of assistance writing the papers. I am sure HC or any reputable school wouldn't be involved in this sort of fraud.
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Post by sarasota on Mar 24, 2017 4:16:26 GMT -5
Maybe I misquoted, but my point remains.
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Post by hc6774 on Mar 24, 2017 6:24:47 GMT -5
Maybe I misquoted, but my point remains. agree... but believe the case involved a Cal player whose father is coach at USF...took summer courses to graduate early so he could take his one year of remaining eligibility to Gonzaga for grad study w/o sitting a year.... kind of a reverse one & done
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Post by CHC8485 on Mar 24, 2017 6:32:50 GMT -5
In that game an announcer said the player who hit a key 3 at the end of the game took 18 credits in summer school so he could qualify to play on the team. I noted in an earlier post that a summer session at HC could help recruiting and help retention of players.Well, you'll be glad to know that Holy Cross is starting a summer session this year. In fact it was discussed on a thread about a month ago. You even commented on it. crossports.freeforums.net/thread/1088/holy-cross-start-summer-session
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Post by hc6774 on Mar 24, 2017 6:41:36 GMT -5
an HC summer school could facilitate a player using the NCAA grad rule w/o out the medical red shirt
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Post by ncaam on Mar 24, 2017 6:54:51 GMT -5
In that game an announcer said the player who hit a key 3 at the end of the game took 18 credits in summer school so he could qualify to play on the team. I noted in an earlier post that a summer session at HC could help recruiting and help retention of players. If that report is accurate, then I am sure there was a lot of academic fraud involved.  That's six courses in just over seven weeks.   Hard to believe a school would allow that course load, and if it is allowed, I am sure that player had a lot of assistance writing the papers.   I am sure HC or any reputable school wouldn't be involved in this sort of fraud. "Fraud" is a strong word. Any evidence to back it up or just making it up as you go along? Some schools have two sessions in summer so you could take PE, soc 101 and psych 101 first session and PE 102, soc 102 and psych 102 second session. I suspect a player or two, properly motivated, could accomplish this task.
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Post by cmo on Mar 24, 2017 8:15:47 GMT -5
In that game an announcer said the player who hit a key 3 at the end of the game took 18 credits in summer school so he could qualify to play on the team. I noted in an earlier post that a summer session at HC could help recruiting and help retention of players. If that report is accurate, then I am sure there was a lot of academic fraud involved. That's six courses in just over seven weeks. Hard to believe a school would allow that course load, and if it is allowed, I am sure that player had a lot of assistance writing the papers. I am sure HC or any reputable school wouldn't be involved in this sort of fraud. A lot of schools have 2 Summer sessions, one from end of May to July and one from July to mid-august. So 3 courses per session. Still an aggressive schedule, but maybe not six courses in seven weeks. Not sure if that was his case.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Mar 24, 2017 8:19:34 GMT -5
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Post by JRGNYR on Mar 24, 2017 8:22:02 GMT -5
Kind of weird when Michigan is the Cinderella story but I do like John Beilein. I'll go with Xavier as Cinderella so far. Lost their best player to injury mid-season, struggled and then late push. Mack is a very good coach. Michigan is the sentimental story but not Cindy story based on their talent and coaching. Xavier finishes on a 9-0 run to down Arizona 73-71. On to Gonzaga.
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Post by hchoops on Mar 24, 2017 8:28:18 GMT -5
I'll go with Xavier as Cinderella so far. Lost their best player to injury mid-season, struggled and then late push. Mack is a very good coach. Michigan is the sentimental story but not Cindy story based on their talent and coaching. Xavier finishes on a 9-0 run to down Arizona 73-71. On to Gonzaga. a Jesuit match
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Post by Xmassader on Mar 24, 2017 8:32:16 GMT -5
With the winner making its first ever Final Four appearance.
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Post by sarasota on Mar 24, 2017 8:42:36 GMT -5
Francis v. Aloysius. There are 54 Jesuit saints.
Sound familiar?
"Gonzaga University is a private liberal arts college located in Spokane, Washington. Providing a Catholic liberal arts education, we are dedicated to the Jesuit, Catholic, humanistic ideals of educating the mind, body and spirit to create men and women for others."
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Post by JRGNYR on Mar 24, 2017 8:43:26 GMT -5
Now lets see if Butler can conjure up more magic of their own.
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Post by JRGNYR on Mar 24, 2017 8:48:05 GMT -5
Francis v. Aloysius. There are 54 Jesuit saints. Sound familiar? "Gonzaga University is a private liberal arts college located in Spokane, Washington. Providing a Catholic liberal arts education, we are dedicated to the Jesuit, Catholic, humanistic ideals of educating the mind, body and spirit to create men and women for others." I hear what you're puttin' down 'sota.
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Post by sarasota on Mar 24, 2017 8:59:54 GMT -5
I believe "men and women for others" is a Jesuit thing--not an HC thing. Think about it. It means that the core of HC's self-identity is something not unique, distinctive to HC, but is the creation of a worldwide religious order. I feel that takes something away from HC's independent identity.
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Post by hchoops on Mar 24, 2017 9:24:39 GMT -5
again the absurd power of tv to start the Arizona-X game close to 11 PM totally unnecessary
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Post by ncaam on Mar 24, 2017 9:26:33 GMT -5
Need west coast TV in prime time. Playing at 8pm et doesn't work for a large swath of fans.
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Post by hchoops on Mar 24, 2017 9:30:54 GMT -5
Need west coast TV in prime time. Playing at 8pm et doesn't work for a large swath of fans. 8 pm eastern ? how about 9 or 10 eastern ? 11 is ridiculous for eastern and maybe central regions
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Post by ncaam on Mar 24, 2017 9:36:17 GMT -5
Another abomination ...UNC v butler 7:15 et....what about the left coast?
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Post by JRGNYR on Mar 24, 2017 9:36:29 GMT -5
I believe "men and women for others" is a Jesuit thing--not an HC thing. Think about it. It means that the core of HC's self-identity is something not unique, distinctive to HC, but is the creation of a worldwide religious order. I feel that takes something away from HC's independent identity. But it's pretty well known that service to others is one of the tenets of Jesuit education, no? It should come as no surprise. It's like you're saying that HC being Jesuit is taking away from its identity. Being Jesuit IS part of its identity.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Mar 24, 2017 9:38:13 GMT -5
And I don't think you can have an "inadvertent whistle" based a replay Correct. The refs totally botched the situation. You will not be seeing that crew again this season. My understanding is that replay only gives the officials the ability to determine who last touched the ball after it has been called out of bounds, and does not give them the ability to determine if a ball went out of bounds or not. My guess would be the lengthy trips to the monitor were just to discuss how to best present the story to the coaches. Whether they made up the "inadvertent whistle" or not, I give them credit for getting the ball to the team that it should have gone to (West Virginia).
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