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Post by southernsader on May 17, 2018 17:30:04 GMT -5
November 10th——Another battle of the alma maters. I believe this will be the 5th in the series with HC winning the first one in the 1948 NCAA tournament and Michigan winning the last 3 (1977 NCAA tournament vs. #1 ranked Michigan [when both John O’Connor and RP Jr. missed the game with injuries], 1988 Utah Classic [where Michigan lost to D-II Alaska in a monumental first round upset and took it out on the Scooter Tropf-less Crusaders in the consolation game...and went on to win the NCAA championship in March, 1989] and December, 2013 [where HC lost by 22 to an eventual Elite 8 Michigan team without AT who was out with a concussion]). I’m all Purple in these matchups. The trend line hasn’t been good for HC in the last 3 where HC has had to play without a key player or players and Michigan has had an NCAA tournament top 4 seed club. Hopefully, the Wolverines will struggle with first game adjustments Michigan’s second game. They play Norfolk state on Nov. 6 And in which we led at the half on a bucket by Charlie Brown. (His name was Charlie, Curt Gowdy, not George.) |
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Post by hchoops on May 17, 2018 19:08:40 GMT -5
And in which one of our opening hoops was a Michael Vicens slam on All-American Phil Hubbard
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Post by sader1970 on May 17, 2018 19:28:03 GMT -5
"Those were the days"
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Post by sonsofspitler on May 18, 2018 5:53:16 GMT -5
Assuming we are already playing Siena at the Hart (the home and home), I hope we get Norfolk State. This begs a good (great?) trivia question! When was the last time HC hoops played a non-conference opponent twice in the regular season? |
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Post by hc6774 on May 18, 2018 6:08:33 GMT -5
2013 split w Hartford, 2nd time 2 weeks after the Mohegan Sun win
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Post by rgs318 on May 18, 2018 7:18:13 GMT -5
HC looked very good in the first game at Mohegan Sun (80-55)...then dreadful in the second (78-90). Hartford did not seem to have a clue how to stop HC the first time and had learned fast by the second time around. If we face Siena twice, I hope we would do better.
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Post by sader1970 on May 18, 2018 8:32:52 GMT -5
Was at both games. Looked unbeatable in the first game and like we had a second '69 (football) hepatitis outbreak in the second.  |
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Post by Xmassader on May 18, 2018 20:28:27 GMT -5
IIRC, we employed a full court press against Hartford the first time. It was very effective and we win handily. Tried to employ the same strategy in the second game and the Hartford coach John ?? was ready for it and had his team well prepared to deal with it. The result in the second game was Hartford by double digits.
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Post by hchoops on May 18, 2018 20:33:08 GMT -5
John Gallagher
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Post by Non Alum Dave on May 19, 2018 3:36:56 GMT -5
During the second half of the Mohegan blowout he kept yelling out a date over and over. Had no idea what he was referring to.....then figured out it was the date of the rematch. Guess he thought we were running it up in game 1.
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Post by sader1970 on May 19, 2018 13:25:46 GMT -5
Yep. They got payback didn’t they?
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Post by gerry on May 22, 2018 8:24:40 GMT -5
I remember a while back when HC played BC twice in a week. The first game they got crushed at Conte, then the two teams hooked up in the loser's bracket of a tournament in Hawaii (Rainbow Classic?). The rematch was much more competitive, but BC prevailed. I believe that was one of the better BC teams with Troy Bell and Uka Agbai if I remember correctly.
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Post by timholycross on May 22, 2018 16:15:52 GMT -5
Yes, looks like 01-02. That was the year HC lost to Kansas in the Dance, gave them a decent game.
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Post by 78purple on May 22, 2018 21:57:15 GMT -5
And in which one of our opening hoops was a Michael Vicens slam on All-American Phil Hubbard |
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Post by 78purple on May 22, 2018 21:59:46 GMT -5
And we were ahead with under 6 minutes to go.....took place @ IU in Bloomington, and Bobby Knight actually gave a pre-game pep talk to his hated rival Michigan.....Michigan then lost the next game to unheralded UNCC with a guy by the name of Cedric " Cornbread " Maxwell
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Post by Ignutz on May 23, 2018 8:10:48 GMT -5
And we were ahead with under 6 minutes to go.....took place @ IU in Bloomington, and Bobby Knight actually gave a pre-game pep talk to his hated rival Michigan.....Michigan then lost the next game to unheralded UNCC with a guy by the name of Cedric " Cornbread " Maxwell The first half ended with Vicens actually PUNCHING the ball out of a Michigan players hands after a defensive rebound - and then laying it in before the buzzer. Billy Doran rolled an ankle late in the second half which was critical in Michigan coming back to take the lead (Doran went back in, but the damage had been done). I believe it was Curt Gowdy on the NBC national broadcast who repeatedly called Charlie Browne "George".
Thirty-two teams in the tournament, and I believe Michigan was #1 in the national rankings. Although they didn't do the detailed seeding then like they do know, guess where we were seeded! Maxwell actually beat the Wolverines in the Mideast Regional final before falling (in a squeaker) to eventual national champion Marquette in the Final Four (Al Maguire's final game).
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Post by hchoops on May 23, 2018 8:44:46 GMT -5
We must have been 8th in the Mid East to Michigan’s #1, and if they had done overall seedlings, we probably would have been 32 to Michigan’s overall #1 since that was where they were ranked in the final poll.
The MOP was Marquette’s Alfred “Butch” Lee from Dewitt Clinton in the Bronx, a terrific guy
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Post by hchoops on May 23, 2018 9:16:36 GMT -5
Box score for that game shows that we held Hubbard to 16, but Ricky Green had 35, 16-20 fg
Chris Potter had a typical stat-stuffer game—20 pts, 7 rebs, 7 assists, 1 turnover, 3 steals. 40 minutes
Michael Vicens—23, 8 rebs, 3 assists, 1 steal
Billy Doran—14, 3, 2, 1
Charlie Browne had 3 blocks.and 6 rebs in 23 minutes
Even without O’Connor, we outrebounded them. 32-28
We shot 52 %, but they shot 60
We were up by 1 at the half
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Post by rgs318 on May 23, 2018 9:21:34 GMT -5
Any chance HC will offer a trip package for the tournament as they did for Belfast?
My wife and I hope to get up to see both games.
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Post by Tom on May 23, 2018 10:20:25 GMT -5
Any chance HC will offer a trip package for the tournament as they did for Belfast? My wife and I hope to get up to see both games. I would think unlikely When they were in a similar tournament in the fall of 2016, I don't think they organized a group to South Carolina or Syracuse |
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Post by Non Alum Dave on May 23, 2018 11:17:47 GMT -5
We must have been 8th in the Mid East to Michigan’s #1, and if they had done overall seedlings, we probably would have been 32 to Michigan’s overall #1 since that was where they were ranked in the final poll. The MOP was Marquette’s Alfred “Butch” Lee from Dewitt Clinton in the Bronx, a terrific guy Al McGuire in those days used to refer to the endgame as BLT (Butch Lee Time). |
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Post by trimster on May 23, 2018 12:25:26 GMT -5
Al McGuire had lots of McGuirisms: Dunkirk, tap city, criers aka screamers and I never recruited a kid that had a lawn.
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Post by hchoops on May 23, 2018 13:26:58 GMT -5
And the best thing about sophomores is that they become juniors(before freshman eligibility)
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Post by Non Alum Dave on May 23, 2018 17:19:06 GMT -5
He's a "legitimate aircraft carrier" for bigs......
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Post by Xmassader on May 23, 2018 21:49:44 GMT -5
Perhaps one of the best summaries of a game that I’ve ever heard came after the HC-Michigan game from a young Bryant Gumbel: “This game was a story of two guards-one who was here (Rickie Green) and one who wasn’t (RP Jr.)”
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