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Post by rgs318 on Sept 9, 2018 7:28:19 GMT -5
Massey has Yale as a 13 point favorite (30-17) with an 80% chance for the win.
HC has a 20% chance, so that is a clear step up from being a 43 point underdog with a 1% chance.
Our only string plus is that HC has two games under its belt while Yale is just opening its season.
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Post by hcpride on Sept 9, 2018 9:49:17 GMT -5
I am hoping Coach Chesney has seen enough in our first two games to decide on a quarterback and determine the run/pass mix we need to execute to be successful given our personnel and given our ordinary PL/Ivy/CAA opposition. The BC game was not helpful (IMHO) in this regard and one imagines that given his druthers he would have played a team more similar to our ordinary opposition.
In all honesty I don't have any idea who our quarterback is or even should be (based on what I have seen) for the Yale game.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 9, 2018 11:52:30 GMT -5
The current QB's do not have the skillset or awareness to go through a proper read progression. If they want to have success against Yale, they will need to create some quick hitting, play action plays and screens off Cozier's running ability. I would also consider running the Wildcat or the Option to salvage the current lack of skillset on our roster.
On a positive note, I like how Ryan Brady competes and think the DC does a good job. Obviously, the secondary needs to understand where their help is on run and safeties need to have a better understanding of where the ball will bounce in different schemes.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Sept 9, 2018 21:10:41 GMT -5
It's a small sample size, but we are very unbalanced on offense, as we have attempted 87 rushes to 45 passes.
I think that gap will close, but it's very clear that Chesney and our "Spread 'Em and Shred 'Em" OC believe our offensive line and running backs are the strongest parts of the offense, with QB play being easily the weakest. It's unfortunate because we have a few talented receivers, but clearly don't have a QB that is capable of getting them the ball.
If the offense is largely going to consist of the read option and dinking and dunking the ball into the flat when we do pass, we might as well move Blaise Bell back to QB.
Next week will be telling.
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Post by hchoops on Sept 9, 2018 21:20:08 GMT -5
Hard to use the BC game as an indicator of anything since it was a special preparation on both offense and d, against talent we will not see again this season. Certainly the Colgate game is a far more effective tool to make judgments and/or predictions.
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Post by timholycross on Sept 9, 2018 23:21:28 GMT -5
Did any receiver in the Colgate game show they can get open down the field, assuming our qbs can throw it that far? The BC game showed none of that.
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Post by lou on Sept 10, 2018 7:03:34 GMT -5
Did any receiver in the Colgate game show they can get open down the field, assuming our qbs can throw it that far? The BC game showed none of that. Our QBs never had the time for a long pass even if they could do it
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Post by hchoops on Sept 10, 2018 7:25:38 GMT -5
Did any receiver in the Colgate game show they can get open down the field, assuming our qbs can throw it that far? The BC game showed none of that. RB Cozier got open for a 41 yarder from Clifford
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Sept 10, 2018 7:50:46 GMT -5
The WRs and TE still on the 2018 football roster had 285 yards on 15 receptions against UNH last year. I gave the reception statistics against UConn in a separate thread, which are even more damning when compared to the passing offense in the first two games. The receivers have not lost an inherent ability to get open, unless the strength and conditioning regime has impaired their speed and quickness. Whether they can't get open because of the routes being run, or the whole passing scheme, is another matter.
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Post by sader1970 on Sept 10, 2018 8:09:46 GMT -5
It is readily apparent to anyone who has watched our first two games that Chesney's strategy is run first, pass second. It may simply be a difference in philosophy from the past regime or that our pass-happy offenses in the past have seen the pendulum swing the other way.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Sept 10, 2018 8:21:55 GMT -5
Tufts last year had 378 rushes to 290 passes.
Assumption also ran more than they passed.
I think it's probably a combination of Chesney and our OC looking to run first and pass second, along with our QB situation not being where it needs to be to air it out.
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Post by sader1970 on Sept 10, 2018 8:48:57 GMT -5
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Sept 10, 2018 9:35:21 GMT -5
Murphy was not named until mid-March, barely in time for spring practice, and I think any St. John's commitments were secured before then. HC has rarely recruited in NC/SC for football. Read into that what you will. Yale last year allowed an average of 73 yards a game rushing, 230 yards a game passing. Yale took a big hit in graduation losses in the defensive backfield. Otherwise, not so much. www.yalebulldogs.com/sports/m-footbl/2017-18/teams/yale?view=lineup&r=0&pos=offEdit to add that I thought the Yale captain who is a DL had graduated/
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Post by rgs318 on Sept 10, 2018 9:46:58 GMT -5
The loss of 3 coaches could be a bigger factor for Yale this season than the loss of any of last year's graduating seniors. From the Yale website:
The 146th Yale Football Team kicks off the 2018 season with a 1 p.m. road contest against Holy Cross this Saturday at Fitton Field. The game airs live on the Patriot League Network as well as WELI Radio (AM 960) and iHeart Radio.
MATCHUP Series: Yale leads 28-4 Yale, 115 years old Last Meeting: Oct. 14, 2017 – Yale 32, Holy Cross 0 (Yale Bowl) Last Holy Cross win: Oct. 1, 2005 – Holy Cross 22, Yale 19 (Yale Bowl) Last Meeting at Worcester: Sept. 29, 2007 – Yale 38, Holy Cross 17
SEASON OPENERS Yale is 123-19-2 (.861) in season openers and has won 10 of its last 11.
BULLDOGS The defending Ivy champions were picked first by the league media in the pre-season poll… 7 All-Ivy players return… 57 lettermen and 10 starters are back from a 9-1 team that ranked No. 24 in FCS polls
CRUSADERS Holy Cross, under first-year head coach Bob Chesney (last 5 years at Assumption College), plays its first home game this Saturday with the Elis coming to town. The Crusaders are coming off a loss at Boston College last Saturday.
Results: At Colgate (Sept. 1): 24-17 L At Boston College (Sept. 8): 62-14 L
CAPTAIN NICHOLAS CROWLE He is a senior DL using 5th year of eligibility… 49 tackles, 6.5 TFL in 26 career games… Former Fairfield Prep star is 18th Yale football captain from CT, 2nd Milford native… Political Science major, Ezra Stiles College… Grew up attending Yale games and always wanted to be a Bulldog.
RETURNING ALL-IVY DL Charles Callender '20 – Second-Team 2017 DB Malcom Dixon '20 – Honorable Mention 2017 Zane Dudek '21 – First-Team 2017 Dieter Eiselen '20 – Honorable Mention 2017 Alex Galland '19 – Second-Team 2017 Kurt Rawlings '20 – Honorable Mention 2017 Sterling Strother '20 – Second-Team 2017
THE ROSTER The 2018 Yale football team represents 24 states and 4 countries (US, Canada, England, South Africa)... California has the most players with 14... Connecticut and Texas have the second most with 9, while New Jersey and Massachusetts both have 8.
COACHING CHANGES When you win, schools come calling. Three coaches from the championship team left Yale last winter. OC Joe Conlin became Fordham's head coach and took DB coach Paul Rice with him. TE mentor Chandler Henley went to the NFL as a quality control coach with Titans.
New Coaches: Matt Cerins (TE, intern on Yale staff 2017), Ben Olson (DL, at Colgate in 2017, brother of Jake Olson, Chief of Staff), Al Netter (OL, at Michigan in 2017).
Assignment Changes: Kevin Cahill went from Pass-Game Coordinator to Offensive Coordinator; Art Asselta (WR) is now Pass-Game Coordinator; Jordan Stevens went from DL in 2017 to co-Defensive Coordinator and LB coach.
BULLDOG BITES The Elis were the only Ivy school to receive votes (22) in the AFCA Top 25 Poll
THE GAME Yale and Harvard have never played each other at a professional sports venue, so this year's edition of The Game is truly unique. The Nov. 17 contest takes place at Fenway Park with a noon kick on one of the ESPN networks. The 135th meeting of Yale and Harvard is also unique because it sold out in a few days last spring. That's the earliest tickets have ever gone on sale and the fastest the tickets have been sold. The New York Post recently came out with "The 20 Best Experiences College Football Has to Offer" and The Game ranked No. 5 behind Clemson (Howard's Rock), Army-Navy, Notre Dame (TD Jesus) and Wisconsin's "Jump Around."
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Post by hchoops on Sept 10, 2018 10:18:21 GMT -5
The date of the last meeting is incorrect
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Post by hcpride on Sept 10, 2018 10:28:53 GMT -5
Add to that Yale returnee list an outstanding player named Alan Lamar who was 2nd Team All Ivy (2016) as a Frosh and missed all of last season with an injury. (Yes, Dudek stepped in quite well.) They will have quite the running game: 2016: Team's freshman MVP... Second-team All-Ivy League running back... Served as top kickoff return man for the first four games until he was needed at tailback... Led Yale with 557 yards and five TDs... Got first collegiate snaps in the backfield vs Dartmouth and ran 23 times for 180 yards and touchdowns of seven and 43 yards... His Dartmouth total was five yards shy of Robert Carr’s freshman school rushing record of 185 yards and got him STATS FCS (national) Rookie of the Week and Ivy co-Rookie of the Week... First start vs. Penn with 118 yards and a TD catch... Scored on one-yard run in win at Harvard. Their football captain (a defensive end and second team all-Ivy player last year) is no longer with the program or school and was a huge part of their defense: www.nhregister.com/colleges/article/Yale-football-Captain-Kyle-Mullen-no-longer-part-13175360.php
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Post by rgs318 on Sept 10, 2018 11:44:00 GMT -5
The date of the last meeting is incorrect Right you are. I corrected it. We don't want the Bulldogs to look dumb or lazy, do we?
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Sept 10, 2018 12:16:26 GMT -5
Mullen may be quickly forgotten. A Yale freshman, Osorachukwu Ifesinachukwu, is a 6' 3" 244 lb. DL, who in fall practice is reported to be very quick off the edge. He was First Team All-State in Texas, which I assume is for Division 6A. There are 244 teams in Texas in Division 6A.
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Post by hc87 on Sept 10, 2018 13:15:00 GMT -5
Picking more nits, the Yale Bowl was technically a "professional sports venue" when the Giants played there while the 1st Giants Stadium/Jimmy Hoffa's grave was being built in the early/mid 1970s.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Sept 10, 2018 13:50:53 GMT -5
Mullen may be quickly forgotten. A Yale freshman, Osorachukwu Ifesinachukwu, is a 6' 3" 244 lb. DL, who in fall practice is reported to be very quick off the edge. He was First Team All-State in Texas, which I assume is for Division 6A. There are 244 teams in Texas in Division 6A.
If only Mr. E were still calling games so we could hear him attempt this name
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Post by nhteamer on Sept 10, 2018 14:16:34 GMT -5
Yale is to Holy Cross as Florida is to Kentucky The wildcats hadn't won for 31 years: therefore.....
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Post by worcester on Sept 10, 2018 14:23:34 GMT -5
The WRs and TE still on the 2018 football roster had 285 yards on 15 receptions against UNH last year. I gave the reception statistics against UConn in a separate thread, which are even more damning when compared to the passing offense in the first two games. The receivers have not lost an inherent ability to get open, unless the strength and conditioning regime has impaired their speed and quickness. Whether they can't get open because of the routes being run, or the whole passing scheme, is another matter. You conveniently forget to mention that the quarterback made it to final cut of the NFL.
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Post by hcpride on Sept 10, 2018 14:38:16 GMT -5
It's a small sample size, but we are very unbalanced on offense, as we have attempted 87 rushes to 45 passes. I think that gap will close, but it's very clear that Chesney and our "Spread 'Em and Shred 'Em" OC believe our offensive line and running backs are the strongest parts of the offense, with QB play being easily the weakest. It's unfortunate because we have a few talented receivers, but clearly don't have a QB that is capable of getting them the ball. If the offense is largely going to consist of the read option and dinking and dunking the ball into the flat when we do pass, we might as well move Blaise Bell back to QB. Next week will be telling. There is some logic to ensuring your best athlete has the ball the greatest amount of time possible.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Sept 10, 2018 16:10:51 GMT -5
The WRs and TE still on the 2018 football roster had 285 yards on 15 receptions against UNH last year. I gave the reception statistics against UConn in a separate thread, which are even more damning when compared to the passing offense in the first two games. The receivers have not lost an inherent ability to get open, unless the strength and conditioning regime has impaired their speed and quickness. Whether they can't get open because of the routes being run, or the whole passing scheme, is another matter. You conveniently forget to mention that the quarterback made it to final cut of the NFL. An assertion is that the WRs are not getting separation. Putting the BC game aside because of the quality of an ACC secondary, against Colgate the HC wide receivers caught nine passes for 59 yards. ______________ Watching the Redskins Cardinals game yesterday, in the second quarter, I said to myself, 'I've seen this movie before'. (14:34 - 2nd) (Shotgun) S.Bradford pass short middle to L.Fitzgerald to ARZ 28 for 3 yards (Z.Brown). 2nd & 7 at ARI 28 (13:32 - 2nd) (Shotgun) S.Bradford pass incomplete short right to R.Seals-Jones (D.Swearinger). (4:10 - 2nd) (Shotgun) S.Bradford pass incomplete short right to L.Fitzgerald. (4:07 - 2nd) (Shotgun) S.Bradford pass incomplete short middle to C.Kirk (Q.Dunbar). Cardinals, 4 net yards of offense in the second quarter. And the wide receivers got no separation. Should I blame the QB? The wide receivers? The newly minted head coach, who was a DC before coming to the Cardinals?
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Sept 10, 2018 18:27:53 GMT -5
Wade in the 2016 season
Played in six games, started five Efficiency rating 144.4 (higher than PP) Completions 90 Attempts 143 Completion percentage 62.9 Interceptions 3 Net passing yards 1184 Touchdowns 7 Longest completion 80 yards Average passing yards per game 197.3
Clifford in 2016 Made two appearances, was 9 for 19, with one TD and one Pick.
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