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Post by purplehaze on Dec 10, 2019 12:18:23 GMT -5
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Post by dharry13 on Dec 10, 2019 12:36:51 GMT -5
Thanks for this. Pretty interesting to see.
Couple of observations. UMASS has quite a few players it seems on this. Doesn't surprise me with the worst defense in America. Anthony Brown leaving BC? That team is going to be in a world of hurt at that position.
Brandon Spencer - the DB purplehaze makes reference too in the portal was recruited by HC last year. He was the kid many on this board thought at one point had verbally committed only to end up at Lehigh (possibly to follow Noonan who I believe recruited GA). He had many offers I believe coming out of HS and saw action in 7 games for Lehigh as a freshman and got some pretty decent time with them.
Also looks like Nate Hope and aforementioned Brandon Spencer are no longer on the Lehigh roster. Both had tweeted out they were in the transfer portal so my guess is Gilmore told them not to let the door hit them on the way out. Nate Hope was Lehigh's third leading rusher and also a freshman.
Two of their more highly touted and talented (based on playing time received as Frosh) Frosh they brought in last year. Both kids from GA.
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Post by dharry13 on Dec 10, 2019 12:44:06 GMT -5
Brandon Spencer tweeted about 2 weeks ago he has an opportunity to play at Oklahoma State. Yes, that's not a typo. Doesn't indicate offer, or anything in that regard. Quite a leap from Lehigh to Oklahoma State. My sneaking suspicion is that Oklahoma State isn't offering him a full ride, but that's just a guess
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Dec 10, 2019 12:45:15 GMT -5
Why would you think TG is running them off!
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Post by dharry13 on Dec 10, 2019 12:49:36 GMT -5
Don't think he was running them off. Rather that once they said they were going in the portal he probably told them he wants kids who want to be there. Who knows, maybe he tried to keep them, but from what I know coaches take that stuff personally and want kids that want to be part of a program - particularly one that he's trying to rebuild.
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Post by gks on Dec 10, 2019 12:51:22 GMT -5
Thanks for this. Pretty interesting to see. Couple of observations. UMASS has quite a few players it seems on this. Doesn't surprise me with the worst defense in America. Anthony Brown leaving BC? That team is going to be in a world of hurt at that position. Brandon Spencer - the DB purplehaze makes reference too in the portal was recruited by HC last year. He was the kid many on this board thought at one point had verbally committed only to end up at Lehigh (possibly to follow Noonan who I believe recruited GA). He had many offers I believe coming out of HS and saw action in 7 games for Lehigh as a freshman and got some pretty decent time with them. Also looks like Nate Hope and aforementioned Brandon Spencer are no longer on the Lehigh roster. Both had tweeted out they were in the transfer portal so my guess is Gilmore told them not to let the door hit them on the way out. Nate Hope was Lehigh's third leading rusher and also a freshman. Two of their more highly touted and talented (based on playing time received as Frosh) Frosh they brought in last year. Both kids from GA. I believe at least the DB quit during the season. Might have been right after the HC game or right before.
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Post by hc2020 on Dec 10, 2019 12:59:34 GMT -5
Does anyone know how entering the transfer portal affects a player’s status with the team? I would have to imagine that entering the portal effectively ends that player’s affiliation with their current team, as I would suspect the coach would inform the player that their scholarship is not being renewed for next year or is subject to forfeiture and will be offered to another player in his place. Therefore, I have to think that a player must have some behind the scene idea of which programs are interested in accepting them as a transfer.
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Post by dharry13 on Dec 10, 2019 13:32:07 GMT -5
None on the portal that I saw and hopefully none in the future.
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Post by dharry13 on Dec 10, 2019 14:07:28 GMT -5
Took a look back to last year after the first signing day. The only additional offer that was posted was to Haskins - who ended up signing. The kids who signed late were Haughney (P), Guillamette (LS), Coulson (offered before first signing period), Asante (decommit from Lehigh), Haskins (only offer posted on this board after first signing period), Hugh Kelley from IL (never saw offer posted), Frater (late decommit from South Dakota State) who left HC before the year even started (no tweets from him on if he will play football next year)
So...after this signing period I'm not sure I'd expect a flood of offers. Dead period last till Jan. 16th. Second signing day is Feb. 5th (3 weeks).
They have 21 graduating Seniors. Not sure if any will come back for 5th year (I don't see a lot of opportunity for that in this Senior class). A few walk ons might not be asked back or a kid or two might transfer. Speculating a 23/24 person class. Leaves 7 spots assuming 17 sign NLI in 8 days.
Kicker - ?; QB - with Helms decommit ?; DB - ?; DL - a must of at least 2 IMO; TE - a must IMO based on lack of depth; RB - ? Will they go transfer route for QB or DL?
17 current verbals - 10 on offense; 7 on defense
21 graduating Seniors/5th Year - 11 on Offense; 9 on Defense; 1 K/P
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Post by sader1970 on Dec 10, 2019 14:49:21 GMT -5
Can someone educate me as to why the NCAA has signing periods and blackout periods?
Why can't a high school student, in conjunction with the college they plan on going to, simply sign the NLI whenever they want? I am sure there is some logic to this, unless it is just to give the NCAA a greater feeling of power in the process.
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 10, 2019 15:15:11 GMT -5
I believe it is to keep recruiters from being a constant presence in some schools and disrupting classes to met with students - or calling recruits at home constantly.
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Post by purplehaze on Dec 10, 2019 15:25:16 GMT -5
Here's a look at Fordham's 8 commitments - they're scrambling to fill their class in the next week, I would guess (or at least most of their class) Taj Barnes 5'9, 170, RB, 3.98 GPA Lanier HS, Sugar Hill, GA Offers: Air Force, Bryant, Coastal Carolina, Columbia, Dartmouth, Eastern Kentucky, Fordham, Georgetown, Wofford Highlights: www.hudl.com/profile/8108651/Taj-Barnes/videosTwitter: twitter.com/tajbarnes20Mekai Felton 5'10, 183, WR/CB Franklin HS, Reistertown, MD Offers: Fordham, VMI Highlights: a.hudl.com/profile/6403049/Mekai-Felton/videosTwitter: twitter.com/iammekai_Kyle Jacob 6’0, 210, RB/FS Paramus HS, Paramus, NJ Offers: Air Force, Bryant, Colgate, Columbia, Delaware State, Fordham, Lafayette, Lehigh, Monmouth, New Hampshire, Richmond, Sacred Heart, William & Mary Highlights: www.hudl.com/profile/8381044/Kyle-Jacob/videosTwitter: twitter.com/Kylej_0909Cody Johnson 6'2, 275, OL, 3-star recruit (per 247Sports) The Woodlands HS, The Woodlands, TX Offers: Abilene Christian, Colgate, Fordham, Holy Cross, Houston Baptist, Lamar, New Mexico, North Texas, Northwestern State Highlights: www.hudl.com/profile/10473884/Cody-Johnson/videosTwitter: Nahil Perkins 5'11, 155, WR/CB, track star, 3.8 GPA Lanier HS, Sugar Hill, GA Offers: Austin Peay, Bryant, Coastal Carolina, Dartmouth, Eastern Kentucky, Fordham, Georgetown, Howard, Savannah State, South Alabama, Yale Highlights: www.hudl.com/profile/8108560/Nahil-Perkins/videosTwitter: twitter.com/TheNahilPerkinsEvan Spann 6'1, 180, WR/OLB North Penn HS, Lansdale, PA Offers: Fordham, Lehigh Highlights: www.hudl.com/profile/5398783/Evan-spann/videosTwitter: twitter.com/evanspann_Cole Thornton 6'3, 170, WR/FS, 3.8 GPA Lanier HS, Sugar Hill, GA Offers: Bryant, Campbell, Charleston Southern, Columbia, Fordham, Georgetown, Lehigh, Northern Iowa, Southern Illinois, Yale, Youngstown State Highlights: www.hudl.com/profile/8108747/Cole-Thornton/videosTwitter: twitter.com/Cole02ThorntonJason Walker 6'2, 230, DL St. Joseph's Collegiate Institute, Buffalo, NY Offers: Albany, Bucknell, Fordham, Lehigh, New Hampshire Highlights: www.hudl.com/profile/10287711/Jason-Walker/videosTwitter: twitter.com/jwalker1702
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Post by dharry13 on Dec 10, 2019 15:55:02 GMT -5
Similar to HC, Fordham had a QB decommit. Most recently for them. Dan Villani. He’s headed to Michigan I believe this weekend but at this time only looks like he’s been asked to Walk On.
He did just get offered by Kent State.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Dec 10, 2019 16:28:42 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2019 16:35:06 GMT -5
Who are our current dual threat QB recruits? Should be #1 on the agenda. If you get a decent kid out of high school with the ability to run and complete half of his passes, they will out play our depth chart in the current scheme. Running ability is the fire that propels the engine in an RPO (especially in the FCS)
Any updates without having to look through 41 pages, would be greatly appreciated.
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Post by Ignutz on Dec 10, 2019 16:38:48 GMT -5
I believe it is to keep recruiters from being a constant presence in some schools and disrupting classes to met with students - or calling recruits at home constantly. Or maybe to prevent “This offer is only available today” pressure from recruiters.
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 10, 2019 17:05:09 GMT -5
Ignutz, I am afraid they do that even more when there are windows to get recruits to commit,
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Post by dharry13 on Dec 10, 2019 19:28:26 GMT -5
I’m not aware of any additional QBs on their radar with Helms decommitting.
My guess is they are going the transfer route again
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Post by jsherman on Dec 10, 2019 20:37:37 GMT -5
Who are our current dual threat QB recruits? Should be #1 on the agenda. If you get a decent kid out of high school with the ability to run and complete half of his passes, they will out play our depth chart in the current scheme. Running ability is the fire that propels the engine in an RPO (especially in the FCS) Any updates without having to look through 41 pages, would be greatly appreciated. Um. Not to be ostentatious. Well. Ok maybe a little. WE HAVE ONE. NUMBER 12.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Dec 11, 2019 9:08:25 GMT -5
Brandon Spencer tweeted about 2 weeks ago he has an opportunity to play at Oklahoma State. Yes, that's not a typo. Doesn't indicate offer, or anything in that regard. Quite a leap from Lehigh to Oklahoma State. My sneaking suspicion is that Oklahoma State isn't offering him a full ride, but that's just a guess Generally, there are no partials in FBS. Counters cannot exceed 85. And a counter is anyone who receives financial aid, regardless of the amount. In FCS, the number of full scollie equivalents is capped at 63. The 63 full scollies allowed can be divided into partials, provided that the total of those receiving any fin aid does not exceed 85. In FBS, the number of full scollies allowed is 85. I did read the NCAA expense and revenue reports of several MAC schools, and these schools did not award all the full scollies authorized under the rules. The number of full scollies was in the mid 70s, IIRC. I assume this was done to save money. I distinctly recall Penn State reporting 84.5 full scollies, But this was after the reduction in scollies imposed by the Sandusky sanctions was nearing an end, so the partial 0.5 scollie may have been a legacy if PSU had divided fulls into partials to carry more recruited players on the roster during the sanction period.
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Post by breezy on Dec 11, 2019 9:28:18 GMT -5
It looks like the other QB verbal commit in this class is a pretty solid bet to sign his LOI --
ONE WEEK TO GO UNTIL THE EARLY SIGNING PERIOD OPENS!!!
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Dec 11, 2019 9:37:00 GMT -5
He's got some serious hops!!
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Post by hchoops on Dec 11, 2019 9:38:26 GMT -5
nice ups !
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Post by richh on Dec 11, 2019 9:58:28 GMT -5
Brandon Spencer tweeted about 2 weeks ago he has an opportunity to play at Oklahoma State. Yes, that's not a typo. Doesn't indicate offer, or anything in that regard. Quite a leap from Lehigh to Oklahoma State. My sneaking suspicion is that Oklahoma State isn't offering him a full ride, but that's just a guess Generally, there are no partials in FBS. Counters cannot exceed 85. And a counter is anyone who receives financial aid, regardless of the amount. In FCS, the number of full scollie equivalents is capped at 63. The 63 full scollies allowed can be divided into partials, provided that the total of those receiving any fin aid does not exceed 85. In FBS, the number of full scollies allowed is 85. I did read the NCAA expense and revenue reports of several MAC schools, and these schools did not award all the full scollies authorized under the rules. The number of full scollies was in the mid 70s, IIRC. I assume this was done to save money. I distinctly recall Penn State reporting 84.5 full scollies, But this was after the reduction in scollies imposed by the Sandusky sanctions was nearing an end, so the partial 0.5 scollie may have been a legacy if PSU had divided fulls into partials to carry more recruited players on the roster during the sanction period. Spencer is a PWO at OSU. He was told if he went into the portal OSU would have a spot for him. His roommate Nate Hope ,RB, also entered the portal.
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Post by dharry13 on Dec 11, 2019 10:06:47 GMT -5
Agreed. Saw that - indicated in the post prior to the one above this regarding Hope.
In the case of Spencer, Hard to imagine giving up a full ride scholarship and guaranteed playing time over the next 4 years to roll the dice for playing time at the FBS. But.....we see it every day now. Heck it happened here to HC with Hunter Helms decommitting in hopes of getting an FBS offer. Happened to Fordham with Dan Villani, and despite my lack of understanding the situation, it will continue to occur.
From a Father's standpoint - if my son had a 4 year full scholarship at FCS and wanted to walk on to fulfill a life long dream of playing FBS at a school with a lower academic reputation I'd have a very hard time paying that tuition bill. Granted every situation is unique, etc., but fail to see the logic on this one.
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