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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2019 22:54:11 GMT -5
We should join the Commonwealth Coast Conference if they’d take us. Know what I’m saying Nichols told me they are hosting the Commonwealth Coast Conference Championship at Holy Cross (if they qualify)...Saturday night I would think. We should try to lock up some transfers
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Post by WorcesterGray on Feb 18, 2019 23:09:43 GMT -5
Holy Cross rebound margin in PL play is now -141 - or -9.4 per game - and PL teams have a 55.6% EFG vs. HC.
No amount of pass-dribble-shoot can compensate for these levels of deficiency in the other fundamental aspects of the game.
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Post by cfrivals on Feb 18, 2019 23:31:17 GMT -5
Lost another turnpike trophy! Who cares!!! Have you seen the numbers over the 4 years? And absolute disgrace! One year we got 1 win against 27 losses. Too many varsity sports that are DREADFUL!! Who is that a knock against???
Guys, Cmon, how much can you put up with and say future is bright! It is not! The administration is a total joke at HC. Plain and simple. I always thought we were better than the PL and deserved a better conference, but now I believe, we do not! We are better at a D3 level and I do believe that is where most of our programs belong.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Feb 18, 2019 23:55:09 GMT -5
BU came into the game ranked 305th in three-point rate, taking just 1/3 of their shots from deep. Tonight they took 50% of their shots beyond the arc.
There is a reason why this has happened repeatedly in conference play.
In all but one game this PL season, our opponents have taken a higher percentage of 3's than they have in overall PL play. See the data below and a look at whether the team's 3 point shooting percentage was better, worse, or the same against HC that game as compared to its PL conference average. Opponent= Opponent's 3PT ATT/FGA VS HC vs 3 PT ATT/FGA for all PL Games...…..WORSE/SAME/BETTER [DID Team shoot worse, same (within 3% pts) , better vs HC than for Sconf play Loyola= 36% vs 31% …...SAME Loyola took 36% of its FGA from beyond the arc. In total PL play that figure is 31%. Loyola shooting pctg of 28% vs HC was same as its conf 30% Navy= 43% vs 38%....SAME Lehigh= 51% vs 39%....SAME Lafayette= 49% vs 42%....BETTER Bucknell= 60% vs 44%.....SAME Loyola= 27% vs 31%....SAME Army= 53% vs 43%....BETTER Navy= 55% vs 38%.....BETTER BU= 38% vs 34%...….BETTER American U= 39% vs 32%......SAME Army= 55% vs 43%.....WORSE Lafayette= 56% vs 42%.....BETTER Colgate= 47% vs 40%......BETTER Bucknell= 50% vs 44%.....SAME BU= 49% vs 34%......BETTER
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Feb 19, 2019 7:31:42 GMT -5
Lost another turnpike trophy! Who cares!!! Have you seen the numbers over the 4 years? And absolute disgrace! One year we got 1 win against 27 losses. Too many varsity sports that are DREADFUL!! Who is that a knock against??? Guys, Cmon, how much can you put up with and say future is bright! It is not! The administration is a total joke at HC. Plain and simple. I always thought we were better than the PL and deserved a better conference, but now I believe, we do not! We are better at a D3 level and I do believe that is where most of our programs belong. I'll be happy to let the Terriers keep that trophy every year as long as we thump them in mens hoops 4 times out of 5 and go 50-50 in lacrosse. And hopefully see you soon in Hockey East.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Feb 19, 2019 7:34:45 GMT -5
We should join the Commonwealth Coast Conference if they’d take us. Know what I’m saying Nichols told me they are hosting the Commonwealth Coast Conference Championship at Holy Cross (if they qualify)...Saturday night I would think. Interesting. What would be the reason for that? Do they not have a suitable home gym?
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Post by gks on Feb 19, 2019 7:54:21 GMT -5
Nichols told me they are hosting the Commonwealth Coast Conference Championship at Holy Cross (if they qualify)...Saturday night I would think. Interesting. What would be the reason for that? Do they not have a suitable home gym? Looking for a larger venue. They pack their on-campus gym every home game. They are an exciting team to watch.
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Post by timholycross on Feb 19, 2019 8:06:56 GMT -5
Their gym has the Hart Center's bleachers opposite the benches. That's all. Plus a walkway around the place at top like the Hart Center walkway, so people can stand on the railings and look down. The most you could get in there is 1,000, probably closer to 800.
I guess because they are the host team and 3 other teams are coming, it's not enough. The best listed attendance was in the 400s. But given they are 23-2 I bet it's pretty loud and intimidating in there.
By the way, one of the 2 losses was to 22nd ranked Salisbury, formerly coached by Andy Sachs.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2019 8:17:35 GMT -5
Nichols would smoke HC in a best of 7 Series according to data analytics run in the matrix by my good friend Fatam Breaston I concur
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Post by timholycross on Feb 19, 2019 8:28:34 GMT -5
Getting back to our game, very little redeeming about it. Most disappointing to me was that it looked like as a group (and NOT Floyd specifically for sure) they hung their heads and didn't keep the game within reach.
Butler last night was the basketball version of Seinfeld's "two face" girlfriend. Great at times and simply horrible at others, especially the end of the first half and the first part of the second half.
And Grandison did little or nothing after the first 15 minutes. All the 3s he and Faw clanged up there followed by the usual conceded rebound set the tone for the collapse.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Feb 19, 2019 8:52:58 GMT -5
Grandy's shooting is really off: 1-12 on threes in the last two games and 8-37 since his stellar game versus Navy
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Post by HC92 on Feb 19, 2019 8:53:38 GMT -5
Jehyve is a big part of the reason teams shoot fewer twos against HC. There were quite a few times last night when someone got near the hoop in a spot where he looked to have a good shot and then threw the ball away from the basket as he felt Jehyve coming. I jokingly said to Dave that we should get Jehyve out so they’d take more twos when it seemed like they were making a three on every possession.
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Post by purplehaze on Feb 19, 2019 9:04:18 GMT -5
One of Floyd’s blocks was no.3 in espn’s top 10 plays today
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Post by Tom on Feb 19, 2019 9:07:04 GMT -5
The last place team came into our house and sent a good percentage of fans to the exit at the under 8:00 media time out.
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Post by WCHC Sports on Feb 19, 2019 9:21:33 GMT -5
It's hard to say the team quit yesterday. I will give them the benefit of the doubt (of a last place team) but also what I watched on TV. You can't deny that the strategy of one coach deploying a zone that is vulnerable at times in the four corners, and another coach coming into the game exploiting it-- like most of our league opponents have done this season-- and attacked with outside shots. A few sharp BU ball rotations had our players trying to cover two guys at once, which is a lost cause. It's a reason why the passes to the interior had Floyd make some great blocks on the weak side. It's the same reason why more passes to the outside had guys hitting the corner J for 3 points.
I could see that rebounding isn't coached. No player looks to box out when a shot goes up. It's simple, and it's teachable, and it's not done. Game after game.
I can see that the players are coached with a timer on the ball. If there isn't an opportunity to develop the play, they quickly pass the ball. It's why Floyd doesn't "go to work" in the post. It's why players at the elbows extended don't let him get in position in the high post and feed Floyd. It's why Benzan will quickly get over half court and then slow it down, and there are 4-5 passes quickly around the perimeter. The defense can literally pack in the zone when HC is not hitting its outside shots, rest on their heels, and we'll just throw it around. There was only two or three set plays run the whole game that I could see. One resulted in a bucket. The other was a turnover. I forget the third. This is on the coach. Run an offense.
We committed a shot clock violation after a timeout. How many times has this happened this season? Inexcusable and on the coach that it happens repeatedly.
Down 20 we were walking the ball up the court. We started to probe the zone defense with about 13 seconds left on the shot clock. No urgency, no pressing the issue. On the coach.
I work in a field that is results-oriented. Don't deliver and you're gone. Carmody doesn't have the track record in the numbers, historically and at the present date, and he doesn't perform on the eyeball test. I can't be the only person watching who is driven mad by all of this.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Feb 19, 2019 9:21:37 GMT -5
Jehyve is a big part of the reason teams shoot fewer twos against HC. Fortunately for our opponents, they're making their twos as well (52%). HC ranks 248th defending twos, 245th defending threes.
In other words . . . we don't defend well. Anywhere.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Feb 19, 2019 10:02:22 GMT -5
Getting back to our game, very little redeeming about it. Most disappointing to me was that it looked like as a group (and NOT Floyd specifically for sure) they hung their heads and didn't keep the game within reach. Butler last night was the basketball version of Seinfeld's "two face" girlfriend. Great at times and simply horrible at others, especially the end of the first half and the first part of the second half.
And Grandison did little or nothing after the first 15 minutes. All the 3s he and Faw clanged up there followed by the usual conceded rebound set the tone for the collapse. Unlike the win over Bucknell on Saturday, when the offense went through Grandison, Green and Floyd, who ranked 1-3 in FG attempts & points, Butler led the team in FG attempts (and points) last night vs BU. In games this season when Butler leads the team in FG attempts this year, HC is 3-7 ( .300), compared to a 3-1 ( .750) record when Grandison, Green and Floyd rank 1-3. If Floyd is removed from the equation and it's just a comparison of the starting guards, we are 4-8 ( .333) when Butler leads the group in FG attempts, and 4-1 ( .800) when Grandison & Green rank 1-2. Isolating these stats for conference play: Butler ranked 1st, JG/CG/JF ranked 2-4: 1-5 ( .167) JG/CG/JF ranked 1-3: 2-1 ( .667) Butler ranked 1st, JG/CG ranked 2-3: 1-6 ( .143) JG/CG ranked 1-2: 2-1 ( .667) ---- We desperately need a new coaching staff that is actually going to make a serious effort to develop strategies and gameplans that emphasize the strengths of our best players.
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Post by HC92 on Feb 19, 2019 10:16:06 GMT -5
Is there a play-by-play transcript of last night’s game available somewhere? Couldn’t find it.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Feb 19, 2019 10:18:21 GMT -5
Is there a play-by-play transcript of last night’s game available somewhere? Couldn’t find it. Scroll down to the HC game, click on box score. 1st and 2nd half pbp (and box) available
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Post by Deleted on Feb 19, 2019 10:39:47 GMT -5
It appears to me Keith Driscoll is not walking through that door!
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Post by HC92 on Feb 19, 2019 10:40:13 GMT -5
Thanks, WG.
Here’s where the game was lost last night.
Mahoney leaves the game with two fouls with 9:13 left in the first half and we’re down 23-18. We cut the lead to 30-29 when Jehyve gets an and-1 basket with 3:49 left. BU then rolls the dice and brings Mahoney back with two fouls. The rest of our offensive possessions in the first half ended as follows:
Grandy missed 3. Butler missed layup. Grandy missed 3. Butler missed 3. Butler missed 3. Down 37-29 at the half.
Four out of five possessions we settled for threes and Jehyve barely touched the ball the rest of the half and got no shots.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Feb 19, 2019 10:46:33 GMT -5
Two telling defensive lapses from the second half "highlights," for your viewing dismay . . .
1. About 20 seconds in . . . watch Grandison "close out" Scanlon. 2. About 30 seconds in . . . Bu player kicks out to Harper at the arc. With Green racing towards him, Harper quickly fires to Pascoe in the corner. Floyd flies past Pascoe who drains the three, while Green flies into Harper to pick up the foul. BU gets the three and the ball. Almost impossibly bad.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Feb 19, 2019 10:48:43 GMT -5
Bring Back's weird obsession with Austin Butler continues.
You do know that Butler has been significantly better than Grandison and Green during the 15 PL games, right?
You can play around with those FGA numbers as much as you want, but the fact remains that Butler has been better in just about every department compared to his classmates.
Trying to somehow pin last night's loss on Butler because he was 7-12 FG for 17 points, while Grandison and Green combined for 5-17 FG for 14 points is really something else.
The ORtg for these three in PL games --
Butler: 108.0 Grandison: 97.0 Green: 95.6
Here is the effective FG% --
Butler: 54.65% Grandison: 49.7% Green: 49.3%
Maybe there are other reasons we are losing games other than Butler shooting, but you're just wrong to try and spin this on him.
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Post by WCHC Sports on Feb 19, 2019 10:50:23 GMT -5
In the second half, the TV color announcer made it a point to say HC needs to have Floyd touch the ball every time down the court. The entire planet seems to want that to be the focal point except the field marshal in charge of the whole thing...
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Post by HC92 on Feb 19, 2019 10:50:29 GMT -5
Did we ever figure out why the ref sent Butler out of the game late?
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