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Post by HC92 on Jul 3, 2019 12:34:21 GMT -5
Thunder released their summer league roster two days ago and Daigneault is not the head coach or even on the staff. Probably on his way to Worcester now . . .
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Post by WorcesterGray on Jul 3, 2019 12:37:56 GMT -5
Good background . . . esp being associate head coach. Not the first time Holy Cross has hired an Associate Head Coach from a major, Midwestern Catholic university who had no head coaching experience at any level and strongly emphasized play at the offensive end.
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Post by HC92 on Jul 3, 2019 12:46:10 GMT -5
Good background . . . esp being associate head coach. Not the first time Holy Cross has hired an Associate Head Coach from a major, Midwestern Catholic university who had no head coaching experience at any level and strongly emphasized play at the offensive end. Come on, WooGray. Stay positive with us at least until the first loss. I don’t know what Nelson will be as a head coach but I am confident he will not be Sean Kearney.
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Post by possum on Jul 3, 2019 12:48:34 GMT -5
Welcome about and good luck Coach Nelson. Big job ahead 7 possibly 8 scholarships to fill in the next two recruiting classes. Must focus on getting some quality bigs into the program.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Jul 3, 2019 13:02:55 GMT -5
Good background . . . esp being associate head coach. Not the first time Holy Cross has hired an Associate Head Coach from a major, Midwestern Catholic university who had no head coaching experience at any level and strongly emphasized play at the offensive end. Well, at least our new guy hasn't been tied to the hip of one head coach for close to 20 years; he's had exposure to many more coaches I would think.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Jul 3, 2019 13:08:27 GMT -5
If the Nelson hire is at least partially the product of the relationship between RW and Billy Donovan, is it possible that a now 34-year-old Mark Daigneault would be a candidate for associate head coach? He would check a lot of boxes (probably all of them for what we’d need to complement what Nelson brings to the table). I know SOV will tell me he’s on the verge of becoming the head coach of the Warriors and there’s no way but I don’t think it’s out of the realm of possibility. He left Florida for the G League in 2014 and is still there. He’s done some cool things including the Thunder summer league team and helping out with the big club after the G League season ends but he’s still not been promoted to the Thunder staff after 5 years. If he ever wants to get back to college, it would certainly help with that. If he’s fully committed to the pro ranks, obviously a non-starter. Here’s a pretty good recent article from the UConn paper in which he expresses an openness to returning to the college game at some point. dailycampus.com/stories/2019/4/2/catching-up-with-mark-daigneaultTell me why someone would possibly leave an NBA organization to become a Patriot League assistant?
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Post by HC92 on Jul 3, 2019 13:20:31 GMT -5
If the Nelson hire is at least partially the product of the relationship between RW and Billy Donovan, is it possible that a now 34-year-old Mark Daigneault would be a candidate for associate head coach? He would check a lot of boxes (probably all of them for what we’d need to complement what Nelson brings to the table). I know SOV will tell me he’s on the verge of becoming the head coach of the Warriors and there’s no way but I don’t think it’s out of the realm of possibility. He left Florida for the G League in 2014 and is still there. He’s done some cool things including the Thunder summer league team and helping out with the big club after the G League season ends but he’s still not been promoted to the Thunder staff after 5 years. If he ever wants to get back to college, it would certainly help with that. If he’s fully committed to the pro ranks, obviously a non-starter. Here’s a pretty good recent article from the UConn paper in which he expresses an openness to returning to the college game at some point. dailycampus.com/stories/2019/4/2/catching-up-with-mark-daigneaultTell me why someone would possibly leave an NBA organization to become a Patriot League assistant? More money? Close to home? Billy Donovan getting fired? Decided he prefers the college game? Something’s going on with him (could be good or bad) as he’s no longer the coach of their summer team.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jul 3, 2019 13:27:23 GMT -5
Re: "Shooting Coach" , I was trying to think of the best way to get a gauge on that. Comparing Marquette's shooting percentages before and after he came on board would not tell me a lot because the team (1) had different personnel before and after his arrival, and (2) the team may have changed its offensive strategy, e.g. changing from an emphasis on the two to an emphasis on the three, or vice versa. Ultimately, I thought it might work best to see if any individual players improved their shooting (as measured by 3 point percentage) over their careers. Then I thought---can you check individual players who had four years with Coach Nelson---didn't he start instructing them from day 1 of freshman year? I'll keep exploring (and certainly look at FT percentage as well) but I offer below a look at some players who transferred into Marquette, i.e. who definitely went from not having Nelson instruction to (perhaps) coming under his tutelage. Of course, this is not perfect as one could suggest that players ought to improve from Frosh/Soph to Jr/Sr...
Andrew Rowsey-- played two years for UNC-Asheville before transferring to Marquette.
YRS 1 & 2 = 187/478= .391 @ UNC-Ash On Threes.... 267/305 = .875 on Free Throws YRS 3 &4 = 196/460= .426 @ Marquette On Threes....263/289= .910 on Free Throws. He's one of the best in NCAA history
Matt Carlino -- played three years at BYU before transferring to Marquette
YRS 1,2,3 = 157/462= .340 on Threes.... 182/256= .711 on Free Throws YEAR 4 = 83/198= .419 on Threes...… 78/95= .821 on Free Throws
Katin Reinhardt--Played three years at USC before transferring to Marquette
YRS 1,2,3= 186/504= .369 on Threes....147/176= .835 on Free Throws TEAR 4 = 32/84= .381 on Threes.....48/54= .888 on Free Throws
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Post by hchoops on Jul 3, 2019 13:32:51 GMT -5
Well done, Ky Limited sample, but convincing
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Post by HCFC45 on Jul 3, 2019 13:33:06 GMT -5
Intro presser next Tuesday, 11 a.m. Awesome. My new job doesn't start until July 15. I'll plan to attend. HCFC45 will I see you there? Anyone else? Sure, why not? See you Tuesday! !
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Post by Tom on Jul 3, 2019 13:41:46 GMT -5
Good background . . . esp being associate head coach. Not the first time Holy Cross has hired an Associate Head Coach from a major, Midwestern Catholic university who had no head coaching experience at any level and strongly emphasized play at the offensive end. Well, aren't you a buzz kill
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Post by DiMarz on Jul 3, 2019 14:37:10 GMT -5
Awesome. My new job doesn't start until July 15. I'll plan to attend. HCFC45 will I see you there? Anyone else? Sure, why not? See you Tuesday! ! If I'm not on the golf course I'll be there...
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 3, 2019 14:42:56 GMT -5
Good background . . . esp being associate head coach. Not the first time Holy Cross has hired an Associate Head Coach from a major, Midwestern Catholic university who had no head coaching experience at any level and strongly emphasized play at the offensive end. I admit thinking that, but I did not want to be the first one to post it. I have a hard time thinking anyone could be as bad as SK. He set that awful bar pretty high
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jul 3, 2019 15:15:42 GMT -5
Good idea, 92.
Unfortunately, won’t happen.
Just like Daigneault was never going to be some kind of administrative assistant within a college athletic department.
Very interested to see how Nelson will round out his staff. Very much hoping he will have someone on it who is familiar with recruiting with the AI. That seems like almost a pre-requisite. This will be Nelson’s first time being around and coaching kids at an academic school like HC.
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Post by hchoops on Jul 3, 2019 15:23:51 GMT -5
Good idea, 92. Unfortunately, won’t happen. Just like Daigneault was never going to be some kind of administrative assistant within a college athletic department. Very interested to see how Nelson will round out his staff. Very much hoping he will have someone on it who is familiar with recruiting with the AI. That seems like almost a pre-requisite. This will be Nelson’s first time being around and coaching kids at an academic school like HC. Thus could one of CBC’s assistants be a candidate ?
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jul 3, 2019 15:34:38 GMT -5
I understand fully that the AI limits the pool of student-athletes who would be accepted at Holy Cross or another PL school. Still, the thought that the coach has a major hurdle because he has not been "recruiting with the AI" puzzles me. Do our coaches spend a lot of time chasing good basketball players and later finding out tat they don't have the academic chops to be admitted? I should think that we work off lists of "high academic" prospects by (1) buying SAT/ACT results, (2) getting lists of players who attend the "academic basketball camps", (3) concentrating on high schools that have a higher concentration of higher academic athletes, (4) monitoring the web for clues, (5) seeing who the Ivies & PL competitors are recruiting.
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Post by unhfan on Jul 3, 2019 15:36:39 GMT -5
From what I hear I think you’re going to like your new AD! A young head coach that has put in his time and I think will work out for the Cross! I wish him the best of luck except the first Sat in November when Holy Cross comes to UNH
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Post by bringbackcaro on Jul 3, 2019 15:48:54 GMT -5
If the Nelson hire is at least partially the product of the relationship between RW and Billy Donovan, is it possible that a now 34-year-old Mark Daigneault would be a candidate for associate head coach? He would check a lot of boxes (probably all of them for what we’d need to complement what Nelson brings to the table). I know SOV will tell me he’s on the verge of becoming the head coach of the Warriors and there’s no way but I don’t think it’s out of the realm of possibility. He left Florida for the G League in 2014 and is still there. He’s done some cool things including the Thunder summer league team and helping out with the big club after the G League season ends but he’s still not been promoted to the Thunder staff after 5 years. If he ever wants to get back to college, it would certainly help with that. If he’s fully committed to the pro ranks, obviously a non-starter. Here’s a pretty good recent article from the UConn paper in which he expresses an openness to returning to the college game at some point. dailycampus.com/stories/2019/4/2/catching-up-with-mark-daigneaultDaigneault joining Nelson’s staff would be amazing but is a pipe dream. One guy with connections to Nelson who I’d love to see on the staff is RJ Evans. Either way, I hope Nelson cleans house of Carmody’s crew and starts this program fresh with a well-rounded staff who complement him effectively.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Jul 3, 2019 16:17:57 GMT -5
I understand fully that the AI limits the pool of student-athletes who would be accepted at Holy Cross or another PL school. Still, the thought that the coach has a major hurdle because he has not been "recruiting with the AI" puzzles me. Do our coaches spend a lot of time chasing good basketball players and later finding out tat they don't have the academic chops to be admitted? I should think that we work off lists of "high academic" prospects by (1) buying SAT/ACT results, (2) getting lists of players who attend the "academic basketball camps", (3) concentrating on high schools that have a higher concentration of higher academic athletes, (4) monitoring the web for clues, (5) seeing who the Ivies & PL competitors are recruiting. Ask a HC coach how much fun it is to follow those steps only to get shut down by HC admissions, sometimes even seeing this recruit that you’re after get accepted at a PL school who you then have to compete against. And it’s not just about the recruiting challenges - due to the limited pool of people who you can get, and the intense competition for the ones who are good, it’s a lot more difficult to build a deep and well-rounded roster. Are these challenges insurmountable? Of course not. But it’s going to be an adjustment for anyone who hasn’t experienced it before, and if you’re not willing to adapt, you will not be successful.
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Post by hchoops on Jul 3, 2019 16:24:30 GMT -5
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Post by cfrivals on Jul 3, 2019 16:26:37 GMT -5
A young coach with the pedigree of Nelson want to come to HC, good get!! 1-Get rid of all remnants of the PO and anyone who still wants to try to implement it, it was a total disaster here. 2- teach everyone the Willard style of everyone hits the glass. Not everyone watch the shot go up and run down the other end of court. 3-bring in RJ to teach that tough as nails rebounding that a 6’3” guy can do.
If players want to transfer and can’t handle the new style, I say bye bye and and don’t let the door hit you in the - - -!
Need true change and the admin to step up big time and support this guy to truly bring a consistent winning program to the Hill period!!
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Jul 3, 2019 17:03:58 GMT -5
Some videos of Coach Nelson:
And Brett as a young player:
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Post by hchoops on Jul 3, 2019 18:00:52 GMT -5
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Post by WorcesterGray on Jul 3, 2019 18:39:40 GMT -5
Even a very purple Crusader would have a tough time leaving Louisville for alma mater Maybe not quite so difficult to leave Asheville, though.
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Post by hchoops on Jul 3, 2019 18:40:13 GMT -5
You are quick deleted
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