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Post by hchoops on Jul 14, 2019 17:19:18 GMT -5
Res, I usually respect your opinion,but Last place in the PL is quite different from last in the PAC 12, no matter how down it has recently been, Kenpom be damned. How would HC have fared against Cal in any of the last 10 years ?
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 14, 2019 17:23:59 GMT -5
Things are looking up one way or the other for HC basketball.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Jul 14, 2019 17:59:14 GMT -5
Let us see if his decision is being made due to basketball, academic or cultural reasons to transfer. The school he selects will be telling.
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Post by sader81 on Jul 14, 2019 19:55:49 GMT -5
Grandy’s dad attended most of his games last year. I spoke with him on several occasions including Ann Arbor, Albany and Amherst, among others. He told me that his younger brother was a better prospect than Jacob. That may factor into this.
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Post by hchoops on Jul 14, 2019 20:24:43 GMT -5
Grandy’s dad attended most of his games last year. I spoke with him on several occasions including Ann Arbor, Albany and Amherst, among others. He told me that his younger brother was a better prospect than Jacob. That may factor into this. Maybe eventually, but not based on Lucas’ current minimal recruitment newenglandrecruitingreport.com/recruits/lucas-grandison-2020
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Post by letsgohc on Jul 14, 2019 20:38:53 GMT -5
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Post by hchoops on Jul 14, 2019 21:01:04 GMT -5
Jacob seems to have justified the offer.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Jul 15, 2019 6:13:49 GMT -5
Good-bye and good luck.
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Post by Tom on Jul 15, 2019 6:58:10 GMT -5
JG's mother is a clinical professor at UC Berkeley. I do not know whether CAL discounts tuition and fees for children of faculty and staff. Random question. It is darn likely that if Jacob's mom teaches in the state school system, he gets free tuition. Maybe even room and board. If this is true, he might not need a scholarship. So my question is: If Jacob can go to Berkeley for free and thus "walks on" to the basketball team because he is not on athletic scholarship, does he still need to sit out a transfer year as a non-scholarship player?
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Post by hchoops on Jul 15, 2019 7:05:49 GMT -5
Just a guess as it is a situation I have never heard of, but yes, because he played last season at a fellow D1 school.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jul 15, 2019 7:09:27 GMT -5
Without a scholarship at another DI, he would not have to sit out. I didnt realize this rule until someone pointed it out on AGS last week.
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Post by dadominate on Jul 15, 2019 7:19:12 GMT -5
whether grandison would be eligible for free tuition is likely contingent upon the faculty status of his mom. there are plenty of "clinical assistant professors" who are adjuncts that essentially allow for shadowing or perhaps provide a lecture. i'm not sure, but it's unlikely the tuition benefits would apply to such a situation. it isn't clear to me whether her private practice is the full-time gig or vice versa. will be interesting, nevertheless.
best wishes to grandison. we'll move on without him if he would rather be elsewhere.
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Post by bison137 on Jul 15, 2019 8:07:21 GMT -5
Without a scholarship at another DI, he would not have to sit out. I didnt realize this rule until someone pointed it out on AGS last week. Curious as to the source of that AGS poster for a couple of reasons: 1. I can find no mention of that exception in the NCAA bylaws. 2. When Brian Fitzpatrick transferred to Bucknell from Penn in 2011, he did not receive a scholarship or any other financial aid from Bucknell. He also had received no aid at Penn. But he was still required to sit out a year at Bucknell.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jul 15, 2019 8:15:34 GMT -5
whether grandison would be eligible for free tuition is likely contingent upon the faculty status of his mom. there are plenty of "clinical assistant professors" who are adjuncts that essentially allow for shadowing or perhaps provide a lecture. i'm not sure, but it's unlikely the tuition benefits would apply to such a situation. it isn't clear to me whether her private practice is the full-time gig or vice versa. will be interesting, nevertheless. best wishes to grandison. we'll move on without him if he would rather be elsewhere. I looked at Cal's policies regarding reduced or free tuition, and these mostly addressed children of veterans, first responders, etc. I sensed there may be a less-public policy regarding children of university employees. There is an article in a BostU alumni magazine from years ago that makes me think that the possibility of tuition waivers are not a factor.
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Post by bison137 on Jul 15, 2019 8:21:00 GMT -5
Without a scholarship at another DI, he would not have to sit out. I didnt realize this rule until someone pointed it out on AGS last week. Curious as to the source of that AGS poster for a couple of reasons: 1. I can find no mention of that exception in the NCAA bylaws. 2. When Brian Fitzpatrick transferred to Bucknell from Penn in 2011, he did not receive a scholarship or any other financial aid from Bucknell. He also had received no aid at Penn. But he was still required to sit out a year at Bucknell. Also one more reason. Bucknell has had two football players transfer out fairly recently and go to Penn State as true walk-ons with no scholarship money. Both of them had to sit out a year at PSU.
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Post by hchoops on Jul 15, 2019 8:27:40 GMT -5
Just curious Did either see time on the field for PSU ?
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jul 15, 2019 8:40:20 GMT -5
Curious as to the source of that AGS poster for a couple of reasons: 1. I can find no mention of that exception in the NCAA bylaws. 2. When Brian Fitzpatrick transferred to Bucknell from Penn in 2011, he did not receive a scholarship or any other financial aid from Bucknell. He also had received no aid at Penn. But he was still required to sit out a year at Bucknell. Also one more reason. Bucknell has had two football players transfer out fairly recently and go to Penn State as true walk-ons with no scholarship money. Both of them had to sit out a year at PSU. I guess I should follow the wise man's logic of "dont believe everything you hear on the internet".
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Post by Ray on Jul 15, 2019 8:45:15 GMT -5
Also one more reason. Bucknell has had two football players transfer out fairly recently and go to Penn State as true walk-ons with no scholarship money. Both of them had to sit out a year at PSU. I guess I should follow the wise man's logic of "dont believe everything you hear on the internet". Yeah, this supposed loophole doesn't make sense... it's too rife for abuse. Putting aside the "parent-faculty member gets free tuition" loophole, it basically means anyone can buy their way out of having to sit a year if they can afford to pay tuition. No way that's actually a thing.
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Post by bison137 on Jul 15, 2019 9:04:54 GMT -5
Just curious Did either see time on the field for PSU ? The first one transferred in under Bill O'Brien when they had had their scholarships reduced dramatically. He saw a fair amount of time on several special teams. The more recent one got into a couple of games as a TE.
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Post by rickii on Jul 15, 2019 9:42:11 GMT -5
Generally agree but, if a school has a scholarship open on Bastille Day, that scholarship is probably going to go unfilled in the sit year anyway. Do you really think that Cal would give him a 2 year scholarship to play 2 years ? clearly he is not a Power 5 player When exactly did college athletic scholarships cease being annual renewable ?
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 15, 2019 12:03:18 GMT -5
Do you really think that Cal would give him a 2 year scholarship to play 2 years ? clearly he is not a Power 5 player When exactly did college athletic scholarships cease being annual renewable? I think he means if a scholarship is still available on Bastille Day, it is of little value, so a three year scholarship in this case is equivalent to two years of viable scholarship allocation. To the Guillotine with me if I am wrong.
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Post by hchoops on Jul 23, 2019 7:19:06 GMT -5
If the numbers-3 starters, 11 letter winners returning- are accurate in the HC mailing this morning, it looks as if he may be coming back
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 23, 2019 7:28:57 GMT -5
That would, imho, be very good news.
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Post by breezy on Jul 23, 2019 10:38:33 GMT -5
Does it mean anything that the roster as currently posted does not include Caleb, but does include Jacob???
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Post by hchoops on Jul 23, 2019 10:40:53 GMT -5
I hope so. That plus the email for season tiks are optimistic signs.
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