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Post by spenser on Jul 23, 2019 18:00:48 GMT -5
Not going to go into detail. Coach's decisions. They see everything.. Including work out ethic etc. Not sure if I buy that his teammates are spreading that and not a good look if it’s true. Might be competitive jealousy of the new kid? I found this very bothersome.
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Post by gks on Jul 23, 2019 18:05:32 GMT -5
well, I'm going to look at it another way. It certainly would NOT be good if Chesney felt he had no alternative for the first game against a standout opponent but to start a true freshman vs. anyone with some experience. So who he starts game #1 may mean very little in terms of the end game and thought process Why is it bad if a true freshman starts? If he's the best QB on the roster then he deserves to start.
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Post by gks on Jul 23, 2019 18:08:31 GMT -5
FWIW I believe that the four games that EC started were : Harvard, Yale, BC and Colgate.These were very difficult opponents. LoveHC Clifford was terrible against Colgate Pulled against BC (not a good barometer) Pulled against Yale I believe Might of had a decent game vs. Harvard Got to play good against the good teams too.
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Post by deep Purple on Jul 23, 2019 18:49:12 GMT -5
Depends on the offense
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jul 23, 2019 19:50:25 GMT -5
I am predicting that Matt Considine will take the first snap in the game at Navy. Chris Butash may be the future of the position (although Hunter Helms and others will come to compete with him) with the future coming later this year---or next year----or his junior year. Still, however good he may become, I'm thinking, as others have suggested, that coach won't want to make his first college experience against D-1 FBS Navy.
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Post by jsherman on Jul 24, 2019 12:15:42 GMT -5
i put my vote in for clifford..
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jul 24, 2019 12:22:52 GMT -5
I'll be pretty disappointed if Clifford is taking the first snap in Annapolis. I saw enough last season to know he's not going to be able to move the offense up and down the field.
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Post by jsherman on Jul 24, 2019 13:12:48 GMT -5
I guess we'll all see. All of us "Arm Chair Quarterbacks" will get to see it soon. Sounds like mandatory report is August 1st and first real practice is August 2nd.
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 24, 2019 14:20:24 GMT -5
What I saw last year was not inspiring from Clifford. However, this is a full year later so I have to believe he has been working on all aspects of his game for almost a full year. The choice of starting QB is a big one for many reason (most mentioned in earlier posts on this thread). However, we can't know the thinking of the coaches or what their plans are for the development of each of the candidates for this key position. With our transfer from Wake now on board, with his varsity experience, I don't expect to see Clifford start against Navy. BUT if he does start and can do well on the field, it would not disappoint me in any way.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 24, 2019 14:50:31 GMT -5
i put my vote in for clifford.. Did you watch any games last season? We will get blown out by 80 if Clifford starts against Navy.
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Post by madinga on Jul 24, 2019 20:48:22 GMT -5
well, I'm going to look at it another way. It certainly would NOT be good if Chesney felt he had no alternative for the first game against a standout opponent but to start a true freshman vs. anyone with some experience. So who he starts game #1 may mean very little in terms of the end game and thought process Why is it bad if a true freshman starts? If he's the best QB on the roster then he deserves to start. Just psychology. Biggest atmosphere of his life that can't be duplicated in practice against a team that is likely to be rearing to go out the gate. Let a youngster soak in the atmosphere a bit and prepare mentally from the sideline while getting a feel for live Division I football. Even if he is the best QB after camp, a sacrificial lamb would be in order at he start IMO
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Post by jsherman on Jul 25, 2019 4:07:17 GMT -5
i put my vote in for clifford.. Did you watch any games last season? We will get blown out by 80 if Clifford starts against Navy. Actually, yes I did. Had a subscription to watch stadium and watched a good majority of games. If you think any of the quarterbacks will make a significant impact in the game against Navy, you may want to consider watching some film on Navy from last year.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 13, 2019 22:38:13 GMT -5
From the Worcester Telegram article:
"As Chesney said last week on media day, all four quarterbacks, senior Emmett Clifford, junior Connor Degenhardt, junior Matt Considine, a transfer from Wake Forest, and freshman Chris Butash, are in the mix for the starting job.
Clifford and Degenhardt got most of the reps Tuesday, but all four continue to rotate.
“Connor and Emmett have a little better understanding of what’s going on and they’ve made some great plays over the last couple days,” Chesney said. “Then you look at Matt and you look at Chris and they’re doing an unbelievable job. All four of them — two of them are mentally very sharp right now and the other two are very physically gifted and just have to catch up a little bit and they’re doing an excellent job of it.” "
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Post by hchoops on Aug 13, 2019 22:39:41 GMT -5
So we know no more now than a month ago
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Post by jsherman on Aug 14, 2019 7:29:39 GMT -5
So we know no more now than a month ago Yep. Very political answer to the question.
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Post by rgs318 on Aug 14, 2019 7:33:18 GMT -5
Well, we do know that Clifford and Degnhardt are the top two for now.
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Post by hc6774 on Aug 14, 2019 8:24:50 GMT -5
So we know no more now than a month ago Yep. Very political answer to the question. What we have confirmed, with some detail, is that the coach has a very competitive process going to select the QB starter for Navy. A game that is not typical of the competition later in the season.
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Post by rickii on Aug 14, 2019 8:49:40 GMT -5
Well, we do know that Clifford and Degnhardt are the top two for now. I may be in the minority but I didn't get that from Chesney's comments....
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Post by HC92 on Aug 14, 2019 8:57:32 GMT -5
Well, we do know that Clifford and Degnhardt are the top two for now. I may be in the minority but I didn't get that from Chesney's comments.... Chesney’s comments are never going to give anyone (fans or foes) any clue about where the competition is 17 days before the opener. Expect a lot of coach-speak from now until at least the week of the game. The candidate pool for starter on 8/31 is not 4 guys at this point. If it is, we’re in trouble.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Aug 14, 2019 9:07:20 GMT -5
"... and the other two are very physically gifted and just have to catch up a little bit and they’re doing an excellent job of it.” "I don't take Chesney's comments to mean that Clifford and Degenhardt are the front runners. In fact, if one reads in between the lines, Chesney is suggesting that Butash and Considine are more talented and once they learn the ins and outs of the offense, they will be QB1 and QB2.
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Post by rgs318 on Aug 14, 2019 9:08:04 GMT -5
I probably misinterpreted this comment: "“Connor and Emmett have a little better understanding of what’s going on and they’ve made some great plays over the last couple days,” I still believe we will see Considine starting with Butash getting some time.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Aug 14, 2019 9:14:46 GMT -5
"... and the other two are very physically gifted and just have to catch up a little bit and they’re doing an excellent job of it.” "I don't take Chesney's comments to mean that Clifford and Degenhardt are the front runners. In fact, if one reads in between the lines, Chesney is suggesting that Butash and Considine are more talented and once they learn the ins and outs of the offense, they will be QB1 and QB2. The ins and outs of Spread 'Em and Shred 'Em? Isn't that just run the ball up the middle, pass play that takes too long to develop, run the ball up the middle, punt?
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 14, 2019 9:32:32 GMT -5
That's the Bunch em up and get shredded offense. This year we're the shredder, not the old bank statement getting shredded.
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Post by purplehaze on Aug 14, 2019 10:04:03 GMT -5
this whole discussion is a bit silly - let's just wait and see - we all know 'nada'
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 14, 2019 10:22:15 GMT -5
this whole discussion is a bit silly - let's just wait and see - we all know 'nada' Agree. Chesney artfully praised all four. He didn't say the two vets didn't have natural ability and he didn't say the newcomers weren't able to master the system. We know nothing but we're "pumped and jacked" anyway. (Apology to Pete Carroll. I believe he trademarked that phrase while coaching the Pats) Imagine how well Chesney can motivate the players.
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