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Post by rgs318 on Nov 16, 2019 22:18:54 GMT -5
Bergen County, NJ still has leaves on about half the trees. The leaf piles at the curbs are in some areas meeting in the middle of the street. Our leaf cleaning should end about the same time as our FCS first round game.
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Post by efg72 on Nov 16, 2019 22:19:01 GMT -5
It takes time for an offense to Execute and come together, especially with an inexperienced QB.
Normally that results in uneven performances throughout the season. Has this team taken longer to adjust - honestly I am not sure and given where the program has been I don’t know if we are ahead, on track or slightly behind in developing a consistent attack.
The offense does, however, have some pretty solid minutes with an ability to put points on the board and let the defense win games.
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Post by timholycross on Nov 16, 2019 22:24:02 GMT -5
Just got back from the game. Great Holy Cross Crowd that came alive in the second half. Great win and the third year of winning the Ram Crusader Cup. Dropping the second half kickoff was brutal, but what a break with the whistle. Special teams needs to improve. Tried different guys back to receive today. Also interesting to see the two qbs play. But great win now you control your own destiny. If you don’t beat the Hoyas and lose your last two home games you don’t deserve the title. Let’s beat the Hoyas 6-5 Go Cross Go At the Fordham fans who’s cheering now? Could you hear the whistle in question? If so, when exactly did it blow?
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Nov 16, 2019 22:27:02 GMT -5
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Post by HCFC45 on Nov 16, 2019 22:27:02 GMT -5
OK, this went well. HC scored three TDs from the time I left for church, to my arrival at Mass. I may make a pilgrimage next week at game time. Same story for me. I did the second reading tonight and resisted the blasphemous urge to update the parishioners on our svore. Yes, same story here for me as well .... Went to the 4:30 mass and sitting in the car, parking lot, listening to the radio. We are up 28 - 21, have the ball with about 5+ minutes left. Do I go in late and know how the game ended or go in on time and say a prayer for the victory? Chose the latter! After church found that we had won and outscored them in the last several minutes 21 to 7! WOW! Kudos to the players and coaching staff. You control your destiny! NOW, JUST DO YOUR JOB! And bring home the PL Championship
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Post by princetoncrusader on Nov 16, 2019 22:31:19 GMT -5
I also just returned from the game after a post-game dinner in Westchester. I didn't hear the whistle (but i had my wool cap over my ears) and was dumbounded at the turn of events. Definitely thought the sun and wind had an impact on several dropped passes by HC receivers in the 1st half. Strategy in the 2nd half seemed to be more sideline routes, which worked well. Any road win is a good in in my book. Go Cross!
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Nov 16, 2019 22:31:50 GMT -5
Post by hchoops on Nov 16, 2019 22:31:50 GMT -5
Why don’t you guys end your dilemmas and just go on Sunday as you did before Saturday liturgy began ?
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Nov 16, 2019 22:32:10 GMT -5
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Post by Ignutz on Nov 16, 2019 22:32:10 GMT -5
Same story for me. I did the second reading tonight and resisted the blasphemous urge to update the parishioners on our svore. Yes, same story here for me as well .... Went to the 4:30 mass and sitting in the car, parking lot, listening to the radio. We are up 28 - 21, have the ball with about 5+ minutes left. Do I go in late and know how the game ended or go in on time and say a prayer for the victory? Chose the latter! After church found that we had won and outscored them in the last several minutes 21 to 7! WOW! Kudos to the players and coaching staff. You control your destiny! NOW, JUST DO YOUR JOB! And bring home the PL Championship Does opting for an early mass tomorrow morning because of what I was watching/yelling at on TV make me a bad person?
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Post by thecrossisback on Nov 16, 2019 22:38:15 GMT -5
[quote author=" timholycross" source="/post/130591/thread" [/quote]Could you hear the whistle in question? If so, when exactly did it blow?[/quote] To be honest when he fumbled I put my hands over my face because it was the same movie last week fumbling the second half kickoff. But my friend next to me said they blew the whistle when he dove on the ball to recover it. Definitely a quick whistle because Fordham looked like they had it. In the end it worked out and just the break we needed. Also the Ayeni and Mountian catches on long thirds downs were clutch. ✝️✝️✝️
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 16, 2019 22:40:05 GMT -5
Why don’t you guys end your dilemmas and just go on Sunday as you did before Saturday liturgy began ? Good question...we take an older neighbor to church with us. Next week we go on Sunday to gthe 10 AM mass to honor and pray or those K of C members who died in the ,past year.
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Nov 16, 2019 22:44:58 GMT -5
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Post by HCFC45 on Nov 16, 2019 22:44:58 GMT -5
Yes, same story here for me as well .... Went to the 4:30 mass and sitting in the car, parking lot, listening to the radio. We are up 28 - 21, have the ball with about 5+ minutes left. Do I go in late and know how the game ended or go in on time and say a prayer for the victory? Chose the latter! After church found that we had won and outscored them in the last several minutes 21 to 7! WOW! Kudos to the players and coaching staff. You control your destiny! NOW, JUST DO YOUR JOB! And bring home the PL Championship Does opting for an early mass tomorrow morning because of what I was watching/yelling at on TV make me a bad person? Not at all... an Our Father, 2 Hail Mary's, a Glory Be to the Father and all is forgiven my son....😀! As for hchoops and Sunday mass... you are as old as I am and sleeping in on Sundays is helpful particularly when I have to work K of C bingo tomorrow night!😁!
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Post by hchoops on Nov 16, 2019 23:11:02 GMT -5
Well done
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Post by HCFC45 on Nov 16, 2019 23:27:19 GMT -5
Next week poses a slight problem also... Assuming HC prevails and defeats GT, I have to serve at the 4:30 mass, also happens to be for some deceased family members. Thankfully the start of the game is at 12:00 noon, so I should be able witness the celebration and still be on time for mass.👍
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 17, 2019 0:03:47 GMT -5
Is any of this information not true? -Fordham is 3-8 -Lafayette is 3-8 -Holy Cross lost to Lafayette at home last week -Holy Cross was completely unprepared today (0 points in the first half) Just like I didn’t celebrate wins when Carmody was burying the hoops program, I have trouble celebrating football wins when such a significant part of the program (the offense) is very sub-par. I enjoy watching the defense and I enjoying watching Cozier, Ayeni, Asante, etc. with the ball in their hands, but watching Murphy/Chesney’s offensive operation makes me want to pull my eyes out. It's been stated by other posters (bfoley), that the current offensive scheme is EXACTLY what Chesney had at Assumption. -RPO -Shotgun Handoffs, (IZ, OZ, Dive) -Multiple, Average to Slightly Above Average QB's in Rotation -Rely on defense and field position to win games If we are going to build a program around this philosophy, I believe we will always be sub par in the grand scheme of the FCS. Kudos to the team for the win, but could you imagine if they played the 2009 Holy Cross Football Team with this first half effort? It be 35-0 heading in for the break. I think we are a better defensive football team than in past years (kudos to Scott James), but we have regressed offensively and on special teams (Chesney and Co). Why did we wait until the second half to get Cozier the ball? I may be too critical, but we are not preparing for the first half of football games like a successful team should (players and coaches).
Doesn't a coaching staff and team prepare for the whole game, not just for the first half? I'm going to show some data and then ask how others would interpret the info In 11 Patriot League games since Bob Chesney became head coach HC has been behind at the half in 5 games and is 3-2 in those games HC has been tied at the half once and is 1-0 in that game (Bucknell this season) HC has been ahead at the half 5 times and is 4-1 in those games (Bucknell last season as the loss) In first halves of the 11 games Holy Cross has been outscored by 14 points in total
In second halves of the 11 games Holy Cross has outscored its opponents by 145 points in total. We have outscored the opponent in 9 of 11 second halves.
To me, a non-expert, that is remarkable. To what can we attribute that extraordinary difference? Coaching staff does a fantastic job of making adjustments at half-time to capitalize on what we learned from the first half's play? and/or HC team is deep and well-conditioned and keeps playing at a high level while our opponents wear down in the second half? Some other cause? What do others think? To me the difference between halves is amazing
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Post by Ignutz on Nov 17, 2019 0:17:07 GMT -5
It's been stated by other posters (bfoley), that the current offensive scheme is EXACTLY what Chesney had at Assumption. -RPO -Shotgun Handoffs, (IZ, OZ, Dive) -Multiple, Average to Slightly Above Average QB's in Rotation -Rely on defense and field position to win games If we are going to build a program around this philosophy, I believe we will always be sub par in the grand scheme of the FCS. Kudos to the team for the win, but could you imagine if they played the 2009 Holy Cross Football Team with this first half effort? It be 35-0 heading in for the break. I think we are a better defensive football team than in past years (kudos to Scott James), but we have regressed offensively and on special teams (Chesney and Co). Why did we wait until the second half to get Cozier the ball? I may be too critical, but we are not preparing for the first half of football games like a successful team should (players and coaches).
Doesn't a coaching staff and team prepare for the whole game, not just for the first half? I'm going to show some data and then ask how others would interpret the info In 11 Patriot League games since Bob Chesney became head coach HC has been behind at the half in 5 games and is 3-2 in those games HC has been tied at the half once and is 1-0 in that game (Bucknell this season) HC has been ahead at the half 5 times and is 4-1 in those games (Bucknell last season as the loss) In first halves of the 11 games Holy Cross has been outscored by 14 points in total
In second halves of the 11 games Holy Cross has outscored its opponents by 145 points in total. We have outscored the opponent in 9 of 11 second halves.
To me, a non-expert, that is remarkable. To what can we attribute that extraordinary difference? Coaching staff does a fantastic job of making adjustments at half-time to capitalize on what we learned from the first half's play? and/or HC team is deep and well-conditioned and keeps playing at a high level while our opponents wear down in the second half? Some other cause? What do others think? To me the difference between halves is amazing It takes the OC two full quarters to realize that the plays he’s been calling don’t work. Taking my tongue out of my cheek, I will say that I’ve been impressed over the past two years by what appears to be superior conditioning on our part. I don’t recall falling short to any PL foes in this regard - certainly a credit to Coach Oliver (whose kid showed some late game wheels on Saturday) and the rest of the staff.
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Post by HC92 on Nov 17, 2019 0:23:40 GMT -5
We’re 8-3 in PL games under Chesney. About to win our first PL title in a decade and second since 1991. And people are still negative. Dear God. Enjoy it, people. Have you watched the games or just looking at statistics? You got me. I never go to games or even watch them. Thank God we’ve got football experts like you to out the people like me who just read the box scores and think winning the league championship means we must be doing something right.
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Post by dharry13 on Nov 17, 2019 0:52:22 GMT -5
I was on the board today saying this team has a longgggg way to go. I still believe that because I think last week should have been a blow out. This week first half awful. DL - really not great.
SOV - relax on HC92. He knows football as well as anyone on these posts
Here’s fact. Last 7 games. HC averaging 31 points a game. Two putrid games against Harvard and Laf with a ton of turnovers. Not OC fault. Yes, at times it’s looked bad but facts are facts.
You know what I never hear you say. What about the kids. What about the kids fumbling the ball. Your scapegoat is Murphy. I’ve met him. I know him. Fantastic guy. You might not like the play calls but do you ever blame the kids? Nope you don’t. You just rip Murphy. Why? Because it’s easy.
Support him the way people do Gilmore. Both wear/wore purple. All the matters to me
31 points over last 7 games. I know I know. It’s flukey. Or it’s in spite of Murphy. How many dropped balls today. 5 turnovers against Laf and they scored 20 against Laf.
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Post by moose1970 on Nov 17, 2019 1:15:26 GMT -5
“Sader1970 one of the few who did not jump off the bandwagon or perform yard work. Started watching the game in the fourth quarter but went back and read all the posts - hilarious!” The yard work guy is a blood relative of mine and we did not consult one another about quoting ourselves The yard work guy is a blood relative of mine and we did not consult one another about quoting ourselves
We're all blood relatives here as long as you are willing to bleed purple!
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 17, 2019 1:26:51 GMT -5
Superior conditioning would seem to be a given due to the superior second half performance.
Maybe our coaches are also more skilled than other PL coaching staffs and thus more nimble in recognizing what the other team is presenting and how to counter it in real time during the game.
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Nov 17, 2019 1:44:59 GMT -5
Post by moose1970 on Nov 17, 2019 1:44:59 GMT -5
Have you watched the games or just looking at statistics? You got me. I never go to games or even watch them. Thank God we’ve got football experts like you to out the people like me who just read the box scores and think winning the league championship means we must be doing something right. if we do win the pl will some posters ask sacheen littlefeather to accept the trophy!!!
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Nov 17, 2019 3:27:33 GMT -5
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Post by bfoley82 on Nov 17, 2019 3:27:33 GMT -5
Is any of this information not true? -Fordham is 3-8 -Lafayette is 3-8 -Holy Cross lost to Lafayette at home last week -Holy Cross was completely unprepared today (0 points in the first half) Just like I didn’t celebrate wins when Carmody was burying the hoops program, I have trouble celebrating football wins when such a significant part of the program (the offense) is very sub-par. I enjoy watching the defense and I enjoying watching Cozier, Ayeni, Asante, etc. with the ball in their hands, but watching Murphy/Chesney’s offensive operation makes me want to pull my eyes out. It's been stated by other posters (bfoley), that the current offensive scheme is EXACTLY what Chesney had at Assumption. -RPO -Shotgun Handoffs, (IZ, OZ, Dive) -Multiple, Average to Slightly Above Average QB's in Rotation -Rely on defense and field position to win games If we are going to build a program around this philosophy, I believe we will always be sub par in the grand scheme of the FCS. Kudos to the team for the win, but could you imagine if they played the 2009 Holy Cross Football Team with this first half effort? It be 35-0 heading in for the break. I think we are a better defensive football team than in past years (kudos to Scott James), but we have regressed offensively and on special teams (Chesney and Co). Why did we wait until the second half to get Cozier the ball? I may be too critical, but we are not preparing for the first half of football games like a successful team should (players and coaches). I never said they wouldn’t score, I just said he uses multiple qb’s that had different skill sets...
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Nov 17, 2019 4:55:31 GMT -5
Geez. Some people here can't appreciate this for what it is, year 2 of a complete rebuilding effort. Starting from rock bottom we're 1 win away from PL championship. I don't care how bad the PL is this year. This is just what the doctor ordered. A team has to learn what it takes to win and there have certainly been alot of lessons this season. A taste of success next week will only make everyone involved hungrier and more determined not to fail. GO CROSS GO! Another infinity+ 1 like from me.
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Nov 17, 2019 7:53:58 GMT -5
Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Nov 17, 2019 7:53:58 GMT -5
The Washington Post can't get anything right, sports or otherwise It seems that the story and headline was written by the Associated Press, it carries the AP bylinel; and there was no writing or editing by the WaPo. This is the WaPo simply posting stories from an AP feed. The story does not appear in the WaPo print edition, nor does it appear in the current on-line edition of the paper. Below are the stories posted on the WaPo website in the past 24 hours, and referencing Holy Cross. There was one additional story referencing Providence Holy Cross hospital in Los Angeles and related to the school gunman (also from the Associated Press.)
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Post by timholycross on Nov 17, 2019 7:58:27 GMT -5
Could you hear the whistle in question? If so, when exactly did it blow?[/quote] To be honest when he fumbled I put my hands over my face because it was the same movie last week fumbling the second half kickoff. But my friend next to me said they blew the whistle when he dove on the ball to recover it. Definitely a quick whistle because Fordham looked like they had it. In the end it worked out and just the break we needed. Also the Ayeni and Mountian catches on long thirds downs were clutch. ✝️✝️✝️[/quote] Then, as others have said, baffling why it was a "do over".
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Nov 17, 2019 8:12:05 GMT -5
Confucius say "Most important aspect to game is your team up when scoreboard read QTR 4, TIME REMAINING 0:00, OC be damned".
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Post by hcgrad94 on Nov 17, 2019 8:42:12 GMT -5
Is any of this information not true? -Fordham is 3-8 -Lafayette is 3-8 -Holy Cross lost to Lafayette at home last week -Holy Cross was completely unprepared today (0 points in the first half) Just like I didn’t celebrate wins when Carmody was burying the hoops program, I have trouble celebrating football wins when such a significant part of the program (the offense) is very sub-par. I enjoy watching the defense and I enjoying watching Cozier, Ayeni, Asante, etc. with the ball in their hands, but watching Murphy/Chesney’s offensive operation makes me want to pull my eyes out. It's been stated by other posters (bfoley), that the current offensive scheme is EXACTLY what Chesney had at Assumption. -RPO -Shotgun Handoffs, (IZ, OZ, Dive) -Multiple, Average to Slightly Above Average QB's in Rotation -Rely on defense and field position to win games If we are going to build a program around this philosophy, I believe we will always be sub par in the grand scheme of the FCS. Kudos to the team for the win, but could you imagine if they played the 2009 Holy Cross Football Team with this first half effort? It be 35-0 heading in for the break. I think we are a better defensive football team than in past years (kudos to Scott James), but we have regressed offensively and on special teams (Chesney and Co). Why did we wait until the second half to get Cozier the ball? I may be too critical, but we are not preparing for the first half of football games like a successful team should (players and coaches). Congrats but... We just scordd 49 points in a critical league road win, are now 8-1 in last 9 PL games, have a chance to go to the playoffs for the first time in a decade and second time in your lifetime and all you can do is complain. Enjoy.
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