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Post by Sons of Vaval on Nov 22, 2022 8:53:28 GMT -5
Kevin App (Williams). Worth a conversation.
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Post by gks on Nov 22, 2022 8:55:11 GMT -5
I honestly think this current administration has basketball on the back burner. It's all about football. IMO as it should.
Honestly other than the stretch with Ralph, who most of the administration was afraid of, it hasn't been good for a long, long time.
HC is better off putting resources into hockey.
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Post by Tom on Nov 22, 2022 8:59:09 GMT -5
Serious question here, how difficult is it for a coach at any college to learn all about the culture and admission requirements of a new college where he is applying for a coaching job? Back around 1999 there was a coach who took a job at school with very different culture and admission standards than his previous job. He was going to show his team there was a new sheriff in town and called a 6:00 AM practice. As luck would have it, the gym was locked and the team couldn't get inside. Waiting around while someone went to find a key, the players all sat down on the ground and pulled out books and used the down time to study. This coach liked to tell the story how he learned his new school was very different than his precious coaching jobs. He learned and adapted pretty well
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 22, 2022 9:02:23 GMT -5
Landry Kosmalski at Swarthmore leads his team to a 20+ win season year after year. He's able to recruit excellent players without scholarships, so think about what he could do with them. He must be a good leader as well. I don't know about his X's and O's. I should think we could offer him a very nice increase in compensation
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Post by timholycross on Nov 22, 2022 9:07:21 GMT -5
I’m convinced that going to a bigger program and hiring some guy with an impressive resume consisting of stops across the high mid-major and P5 landscape isn’t the way to go. Go get someone who knows how to actually run a program, develop talent, and coach. I think you've hit on something. Big timers generally have no clue what life is like at Holy Cross' level. Ralph learned, a lot of people faced with the same set of circumstances, have/will not.
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Post by hc17 on Nov 22, 2022 9:08:12 GMT -5
Landy Kosmalski at Swarthmore leads his team to a 20+ win season year after year. He's able to recruit excellent players without scholarships, so think about what he could do with them. He must be a good leader as well. I don't know about his X's and O's. I should think we could offer him a very nice increase in compensation On the surface, it makes sense. Create Davidson 2.0 in Worcester. An over-simplification, but can see quite a few buying into that model/vision.
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Post by efg72 on Nov 22, 2022 9:16:27 GMT -5
and like Davidson move to the A10
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Nov 22, 2022 9:19:00 GMT -5
I honestly think this current administration has basketball on the back burner. It's all about football. IMO as it should. Honestly other than the stretch with Ralph, who most of the administration was afraid of, it hasn't been good for a long, long time. HC is better off putting resources into hockey. Why can't football and hoops occupy the 2 front burners? Not trying to be funny; just wondering why both programs can't be good at the same time.
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Post by trimster on Nov 22, 2022 9:19:41 GMT -5
and like Davidson move to the A10 Why on God’s green earth would the A10 have a scintilla of interest in HC.?
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Post by efg72 on Nov 22, 2022 9:21:17 GMT -5
First, you would have to become a Davidson-like quality team-- wasn't suggesting that was an overnight move
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Post by WorcesterGray on Nov 22, 2022 9:22:58 GMT -5
Landy Kosmalski at Swarthmore leads his team to a 20+ win season year after year. He's able to recruit excellent players without scholarships, so think about what he could do with them. He must be a good leader as well. I don't know about his X's and O's. I should think we could offer him a very nice increase in compensation And there are other worthy candidates with similar profiles and credentials - Josh Loeffler (Johns Hopkins), Auburn-native John Krikorian (Christopher Newport), Andy Sachs, just to name a few.
Or an out-of-the-box candidate like . . . Jacob Grandison.
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Post by Ray on Nov 22, 2022 9:27:42 GMT -5
I honestly think this current administration has basketball on the back burner. It's all about football. IMO as it should. Honestly other than the stretch with Ralph, who most of the administration was afraid of, it hasn't been good for a long, long time. HC is better off putting resources into hockey. Hockey, to me, is the back burner. There's no reason football and basketball success have to be an either/or proposition.
I thought Nelson should have been fired last spring, and I think the outcome of this season was entirely foreseeable eight months ago. But as I said back then, I don't think it was unreasonable to keep Nelson for another year, nor do I think that decision was a statement about lack of prioritization of the program. Kit needs to get this hire right, and I think he has a better chance at that in spring 2023 than in spring 2022 (when he had been on the job for about 15 minutes).
Nelson's a lame duck at this point. Kit may not have been sure of that back in the spring, but he at least had an idea it could turn out this way. He's going to end up with a full year to do the legwork to find Nelson's successor.
I think we're all influenced by the "Chesney model", and given that other paths haven't worked in the last 15 years, that one does seem worth exploring.
But.... in this age of the transfer portal, it seems to me that the overriding requirement is an understanding of what makes HC special, an ability to identify good fits for what HC offers, and sell that fit to recruits. So, if I had to pick a preferred candidate right now, I'd say Torey Thomas... with Andy Sachs as his lead assistant.
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Post by timholycross on Nov 22, 2022 9:29:40 GMT -5
and like Davidson move to the A10 Why on God’s green earth would the A10 have a scintilla of interest in HC.? No idea what in 2022 makes a school attractive- used to be TV markets but I think that ship sailed a long time ago. They certainly wouldn't be recruiting us for our venue, although that league has the bad (La Salle, Fordham) to match the good (Dayton, Saint Louis). Nor for our "success" in basketball that any youngster would have any recollection of.
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Post by efg72 on Nov 22, 2022 9:32:05 GMT -5
A10 expansion could allow them to have a different version of the 70s ECAC North, Metro, and South in one conference
an older person's version of hopes and dreams for Holy Cross to return in hoops
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Post by alum on Nov 22, 2022 9:44:32 GMT -5
There can be no move to the A10 unless we get rid of men's and women's hockey. Nobody in that league plays it except UMASS. We know what a drag the $4 million or so we spend on hockey has been on all sports not named football and basketball in the PL. It would be a much bigger disaster in the A10.
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Post by Ray on Nov 22, 2022 9:46:43 GMT -5
A10 talk is fantasy, folks. Focus on winning in the current environment.
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Post by hc17 on Nov 22, 2022 9:49:06 GMT -5
Conference realignment is always fun to chat about, but we have bigger concerns for the time being. No new coach signs on thinking of anything else other than the playing year in and year out in the Patriot. Works to our advantage IMO. Come to HC where you will have a well-funded program with great facilities (relative to the rest of the conference) and compete annually for a birth in the tournament. Compare that to the MAAC for example and I don't think the same sales pitch can be made for some of the schools that find themselves in the middle of the pack.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Nov 22, 2022 9:53:13 GMT -5
Tom Crean would be a disaster. So wrong. Especially after you’re advocating for Paulsen. Ha!
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Post by Ray on Nov 22, 2022 10:16:18 GMT -5
Paulsen is analogous to the Carmody hire, I'd say. (And I still say Carmody might have worked out better had his wife not taken ill.)
Crean could be analogous to Willard. I would expect he gets a higher-profile job, though... unless a) we open the vault, and b) Willard gives him a glowing endorsement of the opportunity at HC.
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Post by coachrt on Nov 22, 2022 11:25:23 GMT -5
Tom Crean would be a huge disaster. His personality alone would alienate everyone on campus. Andy Sachs would have been a good hire a few years ago but his little issue that resulted in him stepping down at St. Mary's and ending up at a JUCO takes him out of the running. Again, go after someone like Jeff Brown at Middlebury or Kevin App at Williams. Two successful coaches who know how to recruit in a selective academic. Dave Paulson probably has one more shot at being a head coach. Could be a good fit. Of course you don't need to look any further when hiring a coach from a lower level then Marist when they hired Mike Maker from Williams. Marist prides itself on having the most strict admission standards in the MAAC and they thought bringing in Maker would work. Well let's just say things didn't work out so good and the program was more of a dumpster fire then it was previously. So hiring is never a sure thing. A dark horse I would throw out there would be John Becker at Vermont. I know he's hoping for a shot at a higher level but stranger things could happen. He's the significant other of your women's coach so just maybe the thought of getting closer would be attractive.
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Post by bfoley82 on Nov 22, 2022 11:44:47 GMT -5
If we're taking suggestions, Joe Gallo (Merrimack) and Luke Murray (UConn) are two names that have different backgrounds, but I think are somewhat realistic. Why would Gallo be interested? He already has his program rolling at Merrimack in a similar level league...
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Post by Ignutz on Nov 22, 2022 11:58:11 GMT -5
Answer to the question posed as the title of this thread:
Y E S
As my high-school Civics teacher used to say, "It's just that simple, and it's just that complex."
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Post by Ignutz on Nov 22, 2022 11:59:49 GMT -5
If we're taking suggestions, Joe Gallo (Merrimack) and Luke Murray (UConn) are two names that have different backgrounds, but I think are somewhat realistic. Why would Gallo be interested? He already has his program rolling at Merrimack in a similar level league... I haven't reviewed everything (and everyone) that people have proposed above, but how about Brian Blaney?
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 22, 2022 12:07:58 GMT -5
Tom Crean would be a huge disaster. His personality alone would alienate everyone on campus. Andy Sachs would have been a good hire a few years ago but his little issue that resulted in him stepping down at St. Mary's and ending up at a JUCO takes him out of the running. Again, go after someone like Jeff Brown at Middlebury or Kevin App at Williams. Two successful coaches who know how to recruit in a selective academic. Dave Paulson probably has one more shot at being a head coach. Could be a good fit. Of course you don't need to look any further when hiring a coach from a lower level then Marist when they hired Mike Maker from Williams. Marist prides itself on having the most strict admission standards in the MAAC and they thought bringing in Maker would work. Well let's just say things didn't work out so good and the program was more of a dumpster fire then it was previously. So hiring is never a sure thing. A dark horse I would throw out there would be John Becker at Vermont. I know he's hoping for a shot at a higher level but stranger things could happen. He's the significant other of your women's coach so just maybe the thought of getting closer would be attractive. I thought Andy Sachs was at Salisbury State not St. Mary's and his little issue involved summer camps to help his assistants who were paid tiny salaries to make extra money and the paper work snafu would be unlikely to happen at a D-1 school like HC which has robust staff resources in compliance and administrative support that D-3 schools typically don't have.
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Post by sader81 on Nov 22, 2022 12:30:29 GMT -5
Stats are how you look at them. John Gallagher 2017–18 Hartford 19–14 11–5 3rd CIT First Round 2018–19 Hartford 18–15 10–6 4th 2019–20 Hartford 18–15 9–7 3rd NCAA Division I Cancelled 2020–21 Hartford 15–9 8–6 4th NCAA Division I Round of 64
After the 21 season, UHart announced dropping out of D-1.
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