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Post by hc87 on May 13, 2020 23:14:50 GMT -5
I wonder how much the hepatitis season of '69 may enter the equation if we do or don't decide to play?
The P5 schools may well play....but I'm having a hard time seeing the Ivies and Patriot schools playing football this Fall right now.
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Post by sader1970 on May 14, 2020 5:06:29 GMT -5
Holy Cross and the Patriot League schools are going to put health concerns first regardless of what P5 schools do. As KY says, "bet with both hands."
As sure as I am sitting here, Fr. B has concerns for not only the health of the players (think close contact as after all it is a "contact sport") and other students but concern for the staff and faculty, many who are older and especially vulnerable to this virus from asymptomatic and low symptomatic younger carriers. Until a vaccine or sure fire accurate test is available, this will remain an issue.
Fr. B stated he moved himself out of Ciampi to Loyola because his age makes him vulnerable.
As as for the kids staying on campus now, that is of necessity with no other options because they have no way of getting home. Not out of choice.
During the hepatitis outbreak, the football team was quarantined together and were not allowed to classes. There were rumors that did not come to fruition that the entire campus population would be confined to campus. From my understanding, Coronovirus is more transmissible and deadly than hepatitis.
The decision for students on campus this fall will be made in June or July and football decision will follow that. If distance learning is decided, there will not be an exception for players on campus. That would be a bridge too far from the HC culture.
My best guess is the vaccine is too far out for any effect this fall and despite what SEC, ACC and other schools do, you may likely see a schism and see smaller conferences play spring football when things are in better control.
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Post by hcpride on May 14, 2020 5:45:23 GMT -5
I wonder how much the hepatitis season of '69 may enter the equation if we do or don't decide to play? The P5 schools may well play....but I'm having a hard time seeing the Ivies and Patriot schools playing football this Fall right now. I'm thinking firmly along your lines for the Northeast schools and California at this point. (Nothing to do with our hepatitis issue or issues other schools have had with meningitis, etc.) I'm thinking in some other parts of the country they've done the sober analysis for their particular circumstances/demographics and don't see prudently returning to school (and sports) as significantly increasing Covid-19 related deaths and balance that against economic/mental health/educational issues. So we might see prudently reopened campuses (and football) at some point this fall at some schools.
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Post by crusader12 on May 14, 2020 7:06:02 GMT -5
California State Colleges are going to online learning in the fall. This will eventually trickle across the country in my opinion for Fall semester.
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Post by Tom on May 14, 2020 11:03:29 GMT -5
Some students lived on campus this spfing but completed courses online like everyone else. I believe the only students on campus after March were foreign students who were basically stuck in the USA with no place else to go. This happened at other "closed" campuses as well
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Post by sader1970 on May 14, 2020 12:02:52 GMT -5
Tom is correct as Fr. B on 2 separate occasions said that mentioning specifically that many were Chinese students and the father of one wrote to him to thank him for the good care the school had showed his daughter and said other offspring at other colleges were not so fortunate.
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Post by alum on May 14, 2020 13:00:13 GMT -5
I think that we will play a league schedule starting in October. I know we have been promised all of this testing too many times to believe it, but Governor Lamont, who I trust and who I don't think has lied to us, indicated that CT would get close to 42,000 tests per week by the reopen date of 5/20 and the daily numbers are starting to show he will be close. He has also said that by the end of the summer, CT could test 100,000 per week. If that is true in CT, it will be true elsewhere. With those numbers, colleges will be able to test students as frequently as needed and people will be comfortable with returning to campus.
Someone in the hearing where Dr. F testified, suggested that the results of twenty people at a time could be pooled and tested which would provide easy surveillance of potential outbreaks. I am hopeful. I will also say that if we want colleges and schools to reopen in the fall, it is incumbent upon all of us to avoid transmission of the disease as society reopens over the next month or so. Let's make it easier for people to take the risk of reopening.
All that said, things can change quickly. I can't guarantee that I'll have this same opinion in three weeks.
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Post by HC92 on May 14, 2020 15:00:16 GMT -5
I plan on maintaining my current level of quarantine for at least a couple of more months. I get the feeling my employer is going to be pretty conservative bringing people back to the office so I won’t have much need to go anywhere for a while. I have offered to do the grocery shopping but my wife makes the good point that I’d be 3x more exposed than her given how long a trip to the grocery store usually takes me.
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Post by longsuffering on May 14, 2020 16:28:25 GMT -5
Tom is correct as Fr. B on 2 separate occasions said that mentioning specifically that many were Chinese students and the father of one wrote to him to thank him for the good care the school had showed his daughter and said other offspring at other colleges were not so fortunate. That is a successful businessman to be able to have multiple offspring in U.S. colleges at the same time. I hope Father B. shook the envelope a few times. My sense is that HC will be less hurt by a reduction in foreign students moving forward than schools like B.U. or Northeastern.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on May 14, 2020 23:08:14 GMT -5
From West Virginia U President Gordon Gee: " There will be football this fall. Even if I have to suit up myself"
From the Pac-12 (after the LA stay-at-home order) : "The pac-12 and our member universities will make our own determinations on when our student-athletes can return to play and when and how campuses will reopen to students."
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Post by sader1970 on May 15, 2020 5:11:57 GMT -5
Of course Gordon, who we’ve crossed paths with at both OSU and Brown understands to play football, you need to have an opponent. Still wearing his trademark bow ties?
As for the Pac schools, sort of an ambiguous statement of defiance -against state orders of distance learning or the NCAA that might say you must play in the fall? Need a little more context.
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Post by hc2020 on May 15, 2020 7:05:15 GMT -5
Some updates with respect to local college and universities. It appears that the trend is towards opening up campuses this fall:
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Post by hc2020 on May 15, 2020 13:54:22 GMT -5
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Post by Crucis#1 on May 16, 2020 14:29:22 GMT -5
Maybe he should sit with the average fans and not in a private box when the games begin. Walk the walk in each venue this summer and fall.
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Post by Crucis#1 on May 17, 2020 0:57:22 GMT -5
From West Virginia U President Gordon Gee: " There will be football this fall. Even if I have to suit up myself" From the Pac-12 (after the LA stay-at-home order) : "The pac-12 and our member universities will make our own determinations on when our student-athletes can return to play and when and how campuses will reopen to students." Doubtful that Gordon Gee will be suiting up for West Virginia this fall. Rumor has it he has entered the transfer portal with the goal to be immediately eligible at his next institution. sader1970, Yes he is still wearing his bow tie. He was told that his bow tie could not fit under his West Virginia University uniform. 🤣 Maybe that is why he is in the portal. 😎 Gee has been the president of more Universities than any other American. West Virginia (twice), The Ohio State University, Brown, Vanderbilt, and Colorado. Don’t expect he will be at any Catholic University after his comments about Notre Dame. 🤔🙄😎 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._Gordon_Gee
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Post by sader1970 on May 17, 2020 5:32:26 GMT -5
Hadn't seen the wiki before but knew most of it having lived in Columbus area during his first OSU reign and in Providence area during his controversial reign at Brown. They were appalled in Buckeye land when he left for Brown ("do they even have a football team?!").They were equally appalled at Brown ("who IS this guy?!").
After we shortly re-located to RI, Mrs. Sader1970 was working in Brown's HR department when Mr. Bow Tie made a tour of the office and met my wife which impressed him when others told him we had lived in Columbus area. He left Brown for Vanderbilt very shortly thereafter and it would be hilarious to compare the Columbus press to the Providence press when he left both schools.
He is a hired gun and to Crucis' point, he was the transfer portal before it existed for student athletes.
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Post by hchoops on May 17, 2020 19:41:47 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on May 17, 2020 20:07:40 GMT -5
I wonder if HC will furlough the Director of Tickets, rink manager, pool director, events coordinator, etc. once the "firing freeze" ends on June 30? I don't like to be callous about people's jobs but a perusal through the Athletics staff directory shows many positions with little work that can be done right now.
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Post by longsuffering on May 18, 2020 6:56:14 GMT -5
Headline: 45 out of 45 people develop antibodies in trial of Moderna covid-19 vaccine. Amazingly the next headline after that indicated Pfizer will partner with Moderna for worldwide distribution EXCLUDING China. What a way to politicize a pandemic. I hope there is a non nefarious explanation, but vaccine positive initial results is a good sign.
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Post by hc87 on May 18, 2020 11:48:34 GMT -5
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Post by gks on May 18, 2020 15:08:51 GMT -5
They should play.
There is no evidence that people under 50 that are healthy are at any risk of serious illness. And yes I understand there are always anomalies.
No fans fine but life needs to go on. We cannot stay lockdown forever. Next they'll complain none of us have strong immune systems because we were quarantined for so long,
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Post by hc2020 on May 18, 2020 16:21:30 GMT -5
Ithaca announces it is delaying the start of the “in-person” fall semester by about a month:
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Post by HC92 on May 18, 2020 16:24:37 GMT -5
Ithaca announces it is delaying the start of the “in-person” fall semester by about a month: Do they have some info that no one else has that something will be better on October 5 than September 5? Or is it that they need more time to reform dorms, classrooms and other spaces to try to promote student safety?
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Post by DFW HOYA on May 18, 2020 18:37:43 GMT -5
Notre Dame will start classes a month earlier, not later.
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Post by rgs318 on May 18, 2020 18:39:50 GMT -5
...and the football team will be practicing early as well?
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