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Post by hcpride on Jul 13, 2020 10:56:09 GMT -5
As soon as the Ives cancelled, this was a fait accompli....surprised some didn't see that. You were dead right and on target.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 13, 2020 10:57:20 GMT -5
Interesting that games are stopped but practice of those same players is allowed. If the virus is dangerous enough to prevent competition with other teams, why in the F would it be acceptable to practice with no season? What type of incentive is that for a 19 year old kid? You're going to stay in Worcester for the summer to prepare for a season that isn't going to happen?
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Post by timholycross on Jul 13, 2020 10:58:56 GMT -5
I would think that each school will tell the league they can play or they can't play, based on what's going on at their individual schools. Georgetown looks like they'd be OUT. One more "no" and I think football at least is cancelled or deferred to the spring. Other fall sports: if they're safe* enough, why not cobble up a local schedule, several other colleges will be in the same boat? *Mass has a list of them, the only other fall sport that says "high risk" is soccer, and other states call that one a "medium risk", If soccer is high risk, how isn’t field hockey? I agree, bfoley. The soccer cult is raising hell about this. I will say however, that the possibility of a field hockey player wearing a face shield is high, whereas in soccer one cannot.
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Post by cmo on Jul 13, 2020 10:59:08 GMT -5
Imagine sitting in a dorm to take online classes ? Terrible
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Post by hc87 on Jul 13, 2020 11:00:13 GMT -5
As soon as the Ives cancelled, this was a fait accompli....surprised some didn't see that. You were dead right and on target. Not pleased about this but "our brand" such as it is today, is its close connection to the Ancient VIII..we couldn't go rogue on this..
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 13, 2020 11:03:25 GMT -5
If soccer is high risk, how isn’t field hockey? I agree, bfoley. The soccer cult is raising hell about this. I will say however, that the possibility of a field hockey player wearing a face shield is high, whereas in soccer one cannot. I have never seen a field hockey player with a face shield on....but 🤷🏻♂️
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Jul 13, 2020 11:04:39 GMT -5
Uh, who said spring football on Crossports? Of course, it may still not happen but that’s where my money is. What is the board's policy on gloating?
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Post by hc2020 on Jul 13, 2020 11:07:36 GMT -5
Interesting that games are stopped but practice of those same players is allowed. It would seem to me that the football team has the go-ahead to essentially treat the fall semester as a modified spring practice period with conditioning, practices and, potentially, intra-squad scrimmages similar to the annual spring game format. This at least gives the coaches and players an opportunity to work together. Not the same as a season but at least the players can continue to work their craft which provides something psychologically.
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Post by sader1970 on Jul 13, 2020 11:08:23 GMT -5
Enforced temporary banishment . . . . . "hiatus." With that in mind, I'm gone (again).
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Post by timholycross on Jul 13, 2020 11:09:16 GMT -5
Interesting that games are stopped but practice of those same players is allowed. If the virus is dangerous enough to prevent competition with other teams, why in the F would it be acceptable to practice with no season? What type of incentive is that for a 19 year old kid? You're going to stay in Worcester for the summer to prepare for a season that isn't going to happen? I assume it means lifting, running, passing drills, kicking...all of which the Commonwealth has deemed safe endeavors right now. But after a while those get boring. If I had to guess at this point, we'll be lucky to have spring sports, sans lacrosse; a year from when all this sh*tt started. And a football season starting up a year from now with extended training beforehand. This is where this is all headed unless the 100% pure cynics here are right and the election changes all of that.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jul 13, 2020 11:09:30 GMT -5
Someone explain to me how the PL tells Fordham and Georgetown they can't play. They just did.
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Post by hc2020 on Jul 13, 2020 11:12:23 GMT -5
PL should seriously consider changing their redshirt rules as a result. I agree 100%. This would be a great time to do so, and it would be seen by the current student-athletes as a light at the end of the tunnel and a positive spin on a lousy situation.
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Post by timholycross on Jul 13, 2020 11:15:33 GMT -5
Georgetown says they can't play football and can't row. Fordham is a football associate only. I guess if the A10 and the Big East are going to have contests they field a team for, they can play.
Then there is this: "Because the United States Military Academy and the United States Naval Academy are unique in their environments and their missions within higher education, the Council of Presidents agree that the academies may continue to engage in competitive opportunities as considered appropriate by their respective Superintendents." I assume they are talking about just football here. Are Army and Navy members of a conference in anything else?
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Post by lafalum on Jul 13, 2020 11:28:28 GMT -5
Georgetown says they can't play football and can't row. Fordham is a football associate only. I guess if the A10 and the Big East are going to have contests they field a team for, they can play. Then there is this: "Because the United States Military Academy and the United States Naval Academy are unique in their environments and their missions within higher education, the Council of Presidents agree that the academies may continue to engage in competitive opportunities as considered appropriate by their respective Superintendents." I assume they are talking about just football here. Are Army and Navy members of a conference in anything else? Navy is in a conference in football, Army is independent. They will play all their fall sports most likely. In my opinion this weakens the league eventually. Army could search out a league and will move all their sports ( my opinion).
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Post by timholycross on Jul 13, 2020 11:30:02 GMT -5
PL should seriously consider changing their redshirt rules as a result. I agree 100%. This would be a great time to do so, and it would be seen by the current student-athletes as a light at the end of the tunnel and a positive spin on a lousy situation. I think they have to see if there is a spring season. If so, they might not do much of anything. If there is not, they have to do something. Everyone has to. You'll have a situation where you have 3 classes where only a few players have ever played a college football game. And the kids who would be seniors in 2020-21 will in a lot of cases moved on to other things.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jul 13, 2020 11:36:04 GMT -5
Navy is in a conference in football, Army is independent. They will play all their fall sports most likely. In my opinion this weakens the league eventually. Army could search out a league and will move all their sports ( my opinion). So could Fordham and Georgetown. Five teams would bring the PL under the minimum for conference consideration. As usual, this was handled poorly by the PL.
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Post by timholycross on Jul 13, 2020 11:38:17 GMT -5
Georgetown says they can't play football and can't row. Fordham is a football associate only. I guess if the A10 and the Big East are going to have contests they field a team for, they can play. Then there is this: "Because the United States Military Academy and the United States Naval Academy are unique in their environments and their missions within higher education, the Council of Presidents agree that the academies may continue to engage in competitive opportunities as considered appropriate by their respective Superintendents." I assume they are talking about just football here. Are Army and Navy members of a conference in anything else? Navy is in a conference in football, Army is independent. They will play all their fall sports most likely. In my opinion this weakens the league eventually. Army could search out a league and will move all their sports ( my opinion). I worded that terribly. I meant, are they members of a conference in anything other than football? Why would the league say "no games in the other sports for anyone else because it's not safe....but, ok, Army and Navy, it's safe for you, go play".
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Post by timholycross on Jul 13, 2020 11:40:36 GMT -5
So could Fordham and Georgetown. Five teams would bring the PL under the minimum for conference consideration. As usual, this was handled poorly by the PL. You're already in other leagues and it doesn't seem like you are in any way prohibited from playing other sports in those leagues. No feathers should get ruffled. A & N are exactly the opposite.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 13, 2020 11:41:52 GMT -5
So could Fordham and Georgetown. Five teams would bring the PL under the minimum for conference consideration. As usual, this was handled poorly by the PL. Fordham and Georgetown didn’t sign the statement.
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Post by timholycross on Jul 13, 2020 11:54:47 GMT -5
I saw something that said perhaps Army & Navy could end up in the Big 10 for the fall's non-revenue sports, in a section w/Rutgers, Penn State & Maryland. Has some logic to it. I guess the one thing those places have going for them is the ability to confine everyone to campus, w/few outsiders; plus the resources to test, test and test some more.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jul 13, 2020 11:59:03 GMT -5
How is Georgetown going to compete in BE sports this fall when the only class on campus is the freshmen class, plus a few others?
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Post by hc2020 on Jul 13, 2020 12:07:41 GMT -5
If (and it’s a big “if”) spring football is a go, I wonder if the Ivy and Patriot Leagues would combine to create a modified regional schedule that minimizes travel for each school and creates North and South divisions that are geographically based? Could be interesting...
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Post by richh on Jul 13, 2020 12:12:07 GMT -5
If (and it’s a big “if”) spring football is a go, I wonder if the Ivy and Patriot Leagues would combine to create a modified regional schedule that minimizes travel for each school and creates North and South divisions that are geographically based? Could be interesting... A really good idea. Hard for Bucknell Gate and Cornell but it would be fun. A little spice. Matchups could be great even for a single game OOC for all of us.
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Post by thecrossisback on Jul 13, 2020 12:19:17 GMT -5
This stinks. Send the students to campus but cancel their activities. Hoping for spring football. It’s July 13. They have no idea how the virus will be in October.
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Post by timholycross on Jul 13, 2020 12:20:56 GMT -5
Exactly as expected and I predicted. Sanity prevailed. Stay safe. Sorry, MM, but if can't play golf or tennis now, when the hell can you play them? Stay safe means never go out in the bizarro world of the Patriot League. Yeah, football's toast for now, no argument there.
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