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Post by princetoncrusader on Jul 13, 2020 12:21:36 GMT -5
While I can see the logic of cancelling football, I don't at all understand how field hockey, golf or cross country seasons can be shutdown. What a shame for these young folks.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jul 13, 2020 12:22:43 GMT -5
I saw something that said perhaps Army & Navy could end up in the Big 10 for the fall's non-revenue sports, in a section w/Rutgers, Penn State & Maryland. Has some logic to it. I guess the one thing those places have going for them is the ability to confine everyone to campus, w/few outsiders; plus the resources to test, test and test some more. The Big Ten said fall sports are conference only. Total speculation on my part, but I wonder if the PA schools got cold feet over the fall once cases in Allegheny County exploded as they have in the past two weeks. Allegheny County has identified the main sources; opened the bars, opened indoor dining. Bars were jammed full. That, and people who traveled to FL and SC for beach vacations, and returned. From reading the HC student handbook, HC is particularly concerned about those students living off-campus, either because they were previously approved to live off-campus, or living in space the college has leased, given there are not enough beds on campus because of occupancy limits, no study abroad, and the supposedly unexpectedly large incoming freshmen class.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jul 13, 2020 12:31:20 GMT -5
If (and it’s a big “if”) spring football is a go, I wonder if the Ivy and Patriot Leagues would combine to create a modified regional schedule that minimizes travel for each school and creates North and South divisions that are geographically based? Could be interesting... Anyone who knows the Ivy League knows there is a 0.0% chance this would happen. But, if non-conference games occur in the spring, I could see more localized games between the two conferences happening -- most of which would've been on the original schedule anyway. When it comes to reducing travel, I'm not sure how a 4-hour bus trip makes anyone less exposed than a 6-hour bus trip. There are no flights in the Ivy League conference schedule and the only flight in the PL would be HC-Georgetown so reducing air travel not really an issue. HC and Georgetown have bused to one another in the past so you could just make that game a bus trip or play at a halfway point (Fordham). Even in a PL-Ivy North/South Divisional model, even many of the more local games would still involve overnights. Brown and Harvard are day trips for Holy Cross, for example, but Dartmouth and Yale are overnights.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jul 13, 2020 12:32:54 GMT -5
While I can see the logic of cancelling football, I don't at all understand how field hockey, golf or cross country seasons can be shutdown. What a shame for these young folks. Function of eliminating travel during this risky time, not necessarily a function of how much natural social distancing occurs during the course of play.
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Post by purplehaze on Jul 13, 2020 12:36:07 GMT -5
The fact that Army and Navy can still play olympic/minor sports at their own discretion weakens the league as a whole - if they do, that makes the rest of us look very foolish
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Post by alum on Jul 13, 2020 12:38:17 GMT -5
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Post by cmo on Jul 13, 2020 12:43:23 GMT -5
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Post by hchoops on Jul 13, 2020 12:43:54 GMT -5
Since it seems as if football practice can begin at some point, the Luth is a major advantage when the weather gets cold/frigid.
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Post by cmo on Jul 13, 2020 12:47:57 GMT -5
I just don’t see the “play the games at a halfway point” to avoid longer bus rides working.
Would HC allow Maine to play Georgetown at Fitton? No way.
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Post by cmo on Jul 13, 2020 12:50:33 GMT -5
Since it seems as if football practice can begin at some point, the Luth is a major advantage when the weather gets cold/frigid. I can’t imagine we’d still be practicing into the freezing November weather for no games, but the Luth would certainly give us an advantage if there was a Spring season.
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Post by purplepig on Jul 13, 2020 12:50:59 GMT -5
I’m trying to find out if there was much of a debate but based on what I heard last week, there wasn’t going to be dissent. The league needs Army and Navy and can’t say no to them. I wish the PL would communicate more clearly. It’s a tough situation. My wife teaches at a private school and right now they don’t know what to do. School starts in 35 days. I think there will be more league changes to come. That is my opinion based on some inside speculation. The financial challenges for the schools, across the board, are staggering.
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Post by gks on Jul 13, 2020 13:07:29 GMT -5
This stinks. Send the students to campus but cancel their activities. Hoping for spring football. It’s July 13. They have no idea how the virus will be in October. Only on campus activity this fall will be drinking!
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Post by thecrossisback on Jul 13, 2020 13:08:02 GMT -5
The Ivy League which thinks its progressive on these issues by canceling first. Is one of the most conservative leagues there is. They don’t let postseason play for football. They play their first game when we play our third. Basketball is lucky they get a team in the tournament. The Ivy League thinks people care about their games. They have very small fan bases because of how they run the league. It’s a shame because some of their teams are good. Athletes should start leaving the Ivy schools. Nobody cares about the Ivy League on a national stage.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jul 13, 2020 13:16:44 GMT -5
And at present, half the PL teams + Georgetown can't travel to MA because they're from states, visitors from which are supposed to quarantine for 14 days. Have not yet seen or heard that MA has exempted college teams from the 43 states + DC that are subject to this policy.
I think this MA restriction is more exclusionary than those in the other PL states, at the moment.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Jul 13, 2020 13:44:58 GMT -5
In reviewing the composite sports schedule for Army and Navy, they have not published a schedule for any fall sports other than football, which will be modified. For example for Army, games against Bucknell and Princeton will be removed from the schedule.
At this point, with the extreme variables of the pandemic, why would these institutions try to cobble together a schedule at this point?
The only exception would be competition between the service academies, since their environments can be completely self contained. Anything else would be folly in possibly introducing infection into their bubble.
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Post by dharry13 on Jul 13, 2020 13:45:46 GMT -5
If you are incoming freshman do you not even report until the second semester?
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 13, 2020 14:06:16 GMT -5
The Ivy League which thinks its progressive on these issues by canceling first. Is one of the most conservative leagues there is. They don’t let postseason play for football. They play their first game when we play our third. Basketball is lucky they get a team in the tournament. The Ivy League thinks people care about their games. They have very small fan bases because of how they run the league. It’s a shame because some of their teams are good. Athletes should start leaving the Ivy schools. Nobody cares about the Ivy League on a national stage. Athletes have a four year playing career but then a forty year career, and then there's the obituary to look forward to where it says "Joe Blow went to Harvard."
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 13, 2020 14:12:56 GMT -5
If you are incoming freshman do you not even report until the second semester? And start your career six months behind? It is popular these days to re-classify your college graduating year but there is a sacrifice to make when you do that. On the other hand that action may work hand in glove with the college's goals to keep the amount of students on campus manageable so you might be on to something for incoming football players to finish their four years of classes in December of 2024.
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Post by timholycross on Jul 13, 2020 14:38:25 GMT -5
The fact that Army and Navy can still play olympic/minor sports at their own discretion weakens the league as a whole - if they do, that makes the rest of us look very foolish And those sports should be at HC and others' discretion as well, play local schools who are in the same boat. The point about hopping on a bus to Lewisburg is well taken and best to avoid. I think a lot of this is liability avoidance, plain and simple.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 13, 2020 14:45:16 GMT -5
The Ivy League which thinks its progressive on these issues by canceling first. Is one of the most conservative leagues there is. They don’t let postseason play for football. They play their first game when we play our third. Basketball is lucky they get a team in the tournament. The Ivy League thinks people care about their games. They have very small fan bases because of how they run the league. It’s a shame because some of their teams are good. Athletes should start leaving the Ivy schools. Nobody cares about the Ivy League on a national stage. Should be noted Yale/Harvard was the largest attended College Football game last year in New England.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 13, 2020 14:49:28 GMT -5
Iowa just put out this release today IOWA REPORTS POSITIVE COVID-19 TESTS IOWA CITY, Iowa -- The University of Iowa Athletics Department conducted 30 COVID-19 tests for the week of July 6-12, 2020. Four positive tests and 26 negative tests have been received. As part of the return to campus protocol, testing began May 29, 2020, and includes student-athletes, coaches and staff. A total of 25 positive tests and 418 negative tests have been received. Following the positive test result, protocol established by UI Athletics and medical staff, including contact tracing procedures, is being followed to ensure the safety of all UI Athletics student-athletes and staff. This mandatory protocol also includes isolation for the individuals who test positive, and quarantine for those individuals who might have been exposed to someone with the virus.
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Post by lou on Jul 13, 2020 14:55:07 GMT -5
No fall sports - AD Blossom
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Post by timholycross on Jul 13, 2020 15:06:29 GMT -5
No fall sports - AD Blossom Something other than the Patriot League press release which is on Goholycross.com ? Please direct us if there is.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Jul 13, 2020 15:17:04 GMT -5
Tim: The announcement is on Twitter. Time to get with current 21st Century method of communication. The announcement with not be in the “Evening Gazette”. 😂🤣🙂
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Post by timholycross on Jul 13, 2020 15:29:05 GMT -5
Saying it was on Twitter would have sufficed. Can't stand the medium but I would have found it easily enough.
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