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Post by longsuffering on Jun 21, 2020 15:40:28 GMT -5
The new normal for 'normal' temperature is below 98.6. Apparently this is the result of people being less chronically sick these days. If your typical average temperature is 97, you should tell them that in the ER, because a temperature of 100 would be the equivalent of 102 in a person whose 'normal' temperature is 98.6. I'll try to spit that out before they act on my "DNR"🙂
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Post by hc2020 on Jun 21, 2020 18:58:13 GMT -5
BC football returning its players to campus tomorrow for offseason workouts:
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Post by hc2020 on Jun 22, 2020 11:22:48 GMT -5
Bowdoin College pulls the plug on Fall and Winter sports. I wonder if this will extend to the rest of the NESCAC schools:
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jun 22, 2020 11:44:30 GMT -5
Bowdoin is only letting freshmen on its campus.
99% of college football fans south of New Haven have no awareness of who plays in the NESCAC.
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Post by purplehaze on Jun 22, 2020 11:57:33 GMT -5
Rutgers football players reported last week and it has been announced that 2 players are positive- very clear that the south and west are experiencing a higher pct of cases than the northeast /New England
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Post by hchoops on Jun 22, 2020 12:08:02 GMT -5
Bowdoin is only letting freshmen on its campus. 99% of college football fans south of New Haven have no awareness of who plays in the NESCAC. 99% of college football fans south of New York could not get accepted by a NESCAC school
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Post by hc87 on Jun 22, 2020 12:52:35 GMT -5
The kickahh here is that this decision by Bowdoin included "winter athletics" as well.....being the deep-rooted, eternally pessimistic Coach along the lines of Frank Leahy that I am, I'm not liking the chances for any PL football this Fall right now.
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Post by rgs318 on Jun 22, 2020 12:57:57 GMT -5
Thank goodness Bowdoin is not a factor in the PL decision in any way.
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Post by hc2020 on Jun 22, 2020 12:59:18 GMT -5
I’m hearing that the Patriot League is going to be delaying the upcoming season and that a formal announcement should be coming later today. Trying to get more info.
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Post by alum on Jun 22, 2020 13:13:57 GMT -5
Bowdoin is only letting freshmen on its campus.99% of college football fans south of New Haven have no awareness of who plays in the NESCAC. . Mostly accurate as to the bolded portion. See below from the Bowdoin site. What are the criteria for determining what students will be allowed on campus for the fall semester?
There will be five categories of students who will be allowed to live on campus this fall: first-year students, transfer students, students with home environments that severely challenge their ability to learn, a very small number of seniors in STEM fields or performance or visual arts with honors projects that require physical campus facilities and can be done under health and safety protocols, and our student residential life staff.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jun 22, 2020 13:31:44 GMT -5
I hope those students who are banned from campus this semester have their tuition significantly reduced.
In fact, there is an argument to be made that if a student is not allowed on campus for classes while other students are allowed, he / she should not have to pay tuition at all. Does not seem fair at all to a majority of students.
These colleges are going about this all wrong. It's not about eliminating the virus altogether.
They should be doing everything they can to protect those who are vulnerable (elderly professors / administrators, those with pre-existing conditions, etc.), rather than an 18-year old student. The data has shown that a college-aged student is not at risk. Maybe if a professor does not feel safe being on the campus, he / she can conduct their class from their home.
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 22, 2020 14:02:48 GMT -5
Bowdoin is only letting freshmen on its campus.99% of college football fans south of New Haven have no awareness of who plays in the NESCAC. . Mostly accurate as to the bolded portion. See below from the Bowdoin site. What are the criteria for determining what students will be allowed on campus for the fall semester?
There will be five categories of students who will be allowed to live on campus this fall: first-year students, transfer students, students with home environments that severely challenge their ability to learn, a very small number of seniors in STEM fields or performance or visual arts with honors projects that require physical campus facilities and can be done under health and safety protocols, and our student residential life staff.Disregarding the merits of this plan, and not knowing whether this approach will turn out better for students than HC's plan (as I understand it) to have a larger percentage of students in dorms and hotels nearby, I can see the logic and equity for each of Bowdoin's categories and agree the students not allowed on campus deserve a good tuition discount.
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Post by hc2020 on Jun 22, 2020 14:04:40 GMT -5
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Post by alum on Jun 22, 2020 14:05:44 GMT -5
I hope those students who are banned from campus this semester have their tuition significantly reduced. I was wondering this too. Tuition not being discounted but some adjustments being made. Here is their explanation. I imagine that students can take the semester off if they don't like what is being offered. Financial
1. What will tuition be for the fall 2020 semester?
As an acknowledgment of the challenging economic times faced by nearly all families, there will be no increase in the comprehensive fee or tuition for the Fall 2020 semester over what was charged in 2019–2020. We will reduce the room and board charge pro rata for the period at the end of the semester when on-campus students will no longer be in residence. The fall semester fee for on-campus students will total $33,935. Those who will be off campus will be charged only the tuition component of this comprehensive fee for the semester, which is $27,911.
2. If I am fully digital for the fall semester, how will that affect my student aid package?
For every family of a first-year student that has received a student aid package from Bowdoin, and for every returning-student family that submitted an aid application for the 2020–2021 year, the student aid office is redoing the aid package relative to the new cost. We remain committed to meeting the full demonstrated need for a student to attend Bowdoin. This year, because our digital approach is specifically for the fall term, we are preparing a one-term aid analysis rather than for a full year award. We will update students/families regarding winter term awards later this fall, when we have firm plan for our approach and cost for the winter term.
3. If I am not allowed to be on campus for the fall semester, will I be eligible for any of the aid I would normally receive to help offset my unexpected living expenses? How can my family be compensated for expenses of housing me that they did not expect?
While we are not including a typical room and board charge in your student aid budget, we are including an allowance that recognizes costs a family will incur with a student living at home during the fall term. We have also included an allowance in the student budget for books and personal expenses.
4. Will there be remote student jobs available for the fall?
It is unlikely that there will be opportunities for students to work remotely for Bowdoin, with only a few exceptions. The fall semester work expectation has been replaced with Bowdoin grant for all aided students.
5. Will there be on-campus student jobs available for the fall?
Students should not expect to be able to work on campus for the fall semester. The fall semester work expectation has been replaced with Bowdoin grant for all aided students.
6. Will I receive a stipend for the amount of money that I would have earned from student jobs if I had been on campus as we did in the spring?
This year, Bowdoin has removed the expectation that aided students will earn money during the summer and for the fall term and will increase your Bowdoin grant to meet your newly established need. Therefore, Bowdoin will not be paying students a stipend for jobs this fall.
7. The financial circumstances for many families have changed dramatically due to the pandemic—and remain in flux. What do families do if their circumstances change after their aid packages have been offered?
If a family feels that Bowdoin remains unaffordable after receiving our student aid analysis, the family should connect directly with the student aid office for a one-on-one conversation.
8. When will I receive my student aid award?
We know that returning Bowdoin students are anxious to understand  their financial obligation, and the student  aid office is hoping to release financial aid notices to students in their student aid portal (MyAid) by June 24. A revised financial aid notice will also be available in the MyAid portal for incoming Bowdoin students at this time. The student aid office will email all students as soon as the information is available in the portal.
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 22, 2020 14:06:22 GMT -5
Thank goodness Bowdoin is not a factor in the PL decision in any way. Yes, but Bowdoin and the other New England "Little Ivy" LACs are considered role models for HC in some quarters, I believe. We are often in the same category as those schools in various national rankings.
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Post by gks on Jun 22, 2020 14:08:07 GMT -5
Dumbest of all is not allowing athletes on campus early. Wouldn't this quarantine them longer and thus safer? Can't see early season games being played without proper training and conditioning. BC game probably gone. Makes no sense.
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 22, 2020 14:10:24 GMT -5
The kickahh here is that this decision by Bowdoin included "winter athletics" as well.....being the deep-rooted, eternally pessimistic Coach along the lines of Frank Leahy that I am, I'm not liking the chances for any PL football this Fall right now. Frank Leahy's coaching record was 107-13-9. Good person to emulate.
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Post by hc2020 on Jun 22, 2020 14:11:39 GMT -5
Agreed. A true panic move and perhaps one of the most incoherent press releases I have seen in some time. I have read it three times and I can’t make heads or tails of it. Some paragraphs are inconsistent with others. SMH
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Post by gks on Jun 22, 2020 14:14:18 GMT -5
Agreed. A true panic move and perhaps one of the most incoherent press releases I have seen in some time. I have read it three times and I can’t make heads or tails of it. Some paragraphs are inconsistent with others. SMH From what I can understand it sounds like the only thing they are delaying is pre-season practice. Let's just have the students start playing games without proper training! The release get dumber every time I read it.
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 22, 2020 14:17:04 GMT -5
Dumbest of all is not allowing athletes on campus early. Wouldn't this quarantine them longer and thus safer? Can't see early season games being played without proper training and conditioning. BC game probably gone. Makes no sense. The only silver lining is Coach Chesney's tight operation of the program which I have to think has put our players further ahead in their conditioning and film work than our peers. Unfortunately BC is not a peer in regards to on campus practice time.
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Post by gks on Jun 22, 2020 14:19:36 GMT -5
Dumbest of all is not allowing athletes on campus early. Wouldn't this quarantine them longer and thus safer? Can't see early season games being played without proper training and conditioning. BC game probably gone. Makes no sense. The only silver lining is Coach Chesney's tight operation of the program which I have to think has put our players further ahead in their conditioning and film work than our peers. Unfortunately BC is not a peer in regards to on campus practice time. IMO BC is doing it right. Getting athletes on campus, keeping them together and separate. They will be safe and properly trained for the upcoming season. PL with another dumb decision.
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 22, 2020 14:25:13 GMT -5
GoHolyCross.com has the Merrimack game scheduled for Thursday Sept. 3rd.
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Post by gks on Jun 22, 2020 14:30:58 GMT -5
GoHolyCross.com has the Merrimack game scheduled for Thursday Sept. 3rd. Interesting.
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Post by hc2020 on Jun 22, 2020 14:31:06 GMT -5
Does anyone know the earliest date when students can go back on campus? If classes start Sept. 1 it seems to me that the whole slate of games in Sept. are gone. That being said, I have no idea what the statement means about non league games starting no earlier than Sept. 4?
Having student-athletes on campus early would help to test them, quarantine them and get them physically ready to play. Makes no sense whatsoever.
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Post by rgs318 on Jun 22, 2020 14:33:14 GMT -5
Since it can be played on Sept 4th (according to PL guidelines), why would this be a problem? Would moving the game one day be that big a deal?
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