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Post by efg72 on Apr 2, 2021 20:48:28 GMT -5
Would it be a reasonable guess to say if the people of Georgia read the bill they might not agree with all of the provisions and they would not support the game being moved?
Just asking
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Post by hchoops on Apr 2, 2021 20:58:18 GMT -5
Or they would agree with it being moved.
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Post by efg72 on Apr 3, 2021 6:26:42 GMT -5
For those interested in the GA voting law and want to come to your own conclusions based on the facts, here is the legislative language as passed by the Georgia Senate. The politicians on both sides and the media can use talking points to create a narrative, and they have every right to do so, but they can't create their own set of facts. If you compare the new law to those in place for other states both sides of this debate might be surprised. Jim Angleton,the first Director of CIA’s CounterIntelligence used to say to me and others, “things in life are rarely as they appear.” www.legis.ga.gov/api/legislation/document/20212022/201121
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Post by efg72 on Apr 3, 2021 7:23:15 GMT -5
My youngest son asked me the following: if MLB is to be consistent in it's actions and decision-making should it require the Braves to leave Georgia for another location?
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Post by Tom on Apr 3, 2021 7:54:25 GMT -5
I would be willing to bet one dollar that Rob Manfred did not read the law before making his decision. Had he read the full text, he may or may not have made the same decision. I think he probably, like most of us, relied on subjective analysis of a 3rd party's cursory scan of the law
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My guess is that Manfred has the unilateral authority to decide where the All Star game is played, but not to tell teams that they have to relocate or toss them out of the sport. If that authority rested anywhere, it would be with a vote of the owners. The owners would never agree to force a fellow owner to move or not be scheduled for something like this because it could be turned on them.
I don't think the owners of the Mets and Yankees would force the Braves to move because the voters of Georgia voted for officials who enacted a law they thought was heinous, since those owners also know that the voters of New York voted for an official who has done some things the other owners might also consider heinous
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Post by rgs318 on Apr 3, 2021 8:15:29 GMT -5
The move itself does not bother me. It has been many years since I watched or cared about the MLB All-Star game. However, this seems like a knee-jerk move to try to be politically correct. Do the people Georgia get to decide anything for themselves? As others have asked, do people bother to read the law before protesting?
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Post by Tom on Apr 3, 2021 8:36:12 GMT -5
When I was a kid, I really liked the All Star game. No interleague play. One national televised game a week that alternated between AL and NL. The All Star game might be the only time I'd see a Hank Aaron on TV.
Now, I have way more chances to see future HoF'ers on TV and most of them at some point will make a stop in my local ball park to see in person. The All Star game just isn't the rare opportunity to see all stars that it once was
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Post by lou on Apr 3, 2021 8:37:55 GMT -5
Don't want to read all 98 pages, here's a pretty detailed summary of what's going on in Georgia What Georgia’s Voting Law Really Does nyti.ms/3mc0XVE
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Post by mm67 on Apr 3, 2021 8:43:10 GMT -5
Mr. Aaron is looking down from Heaven quite happy that the All Star game has been moved out of Atlanta at this time.To hold the game in Atlanta under these circumstances would have been a desecration of his name and legacy as a leading advocate for civil rights for ALL people. He will be honored at this year's All Star game in a more appropriate setting.
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Post by efg72 on Apr 3, 2021 9:14:53 GMT -5
Mr. Aaron is looking down from Heaven quite happy that the All Star game has been moved out of Atlanta at this time.To hold the game in Atlanta under these circumstances would have been a desecration of his name and legacy as a leading advocate for civil rights for all people. He will be honored at this year's All Star game in a more appropriate setting. I think he is pleased the country is addressing equality and voting rights. Having read the bill a couple of times I think he would find most steps taken by the people of Georgia to improve the voting opportunities and encourage all Americans to exercise their right to vote as a positive movement. With that said, like all federal, state and local legislative and regulatory initiatives it is far from a masterpiece. There are simple solutions that would work for everybody, but that would take the politics out of politics.
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Post by hcpride on Apr 3, 2021 9:23:44 GMT -5
Don't want to read all 98 pages, here's a pretty detailed summary of what's going on in Georgia What Georgia’s Voting Law Really Does nyti.ms/3mc0XVEThe NYT analysis is exactly what one would expect. Since voting laws in NY are definitely more 'restrictive' than the new law in Georgia, one assumes there will be a boycott of MLB baseball itself forthcoming (MLB headquarters is in NY).
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Post by mm67 on Apr 3, 2021 9:44:16 GMT -5
And, baseball? The Mets have not been able to play a game yet. And the Yankees , same old, same old - hit a home run or strike out. I do not understand analytics. Are there any other baseball teams west of the Hudson or north of the Bronx? Admittedly, this is a feeble attempt to veer the discussion away from inflammatory rhetoric.
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Post by hchoops on Apr 3, 2021 10:29:54 GMT -5
This is paywalled would someone with a subscription please post the quiz ? thanks
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Apr 3, 2021 10:59:27 GMT -5
Hcpride can probably help you out. Seems like a WaPo reader.
I kid. I kid.
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Post by timholycross on Apr 5, 2021 19:14:34 GMT -5
And, baseball? The Mets have not been able to play a game yet. And the Yankees , same old, same old - hit a home run or strike out. I do not understand analytics. Are there any other baseball teams west east of the Hudson or north of the Bronx? Admittedly, this is a feeble attempt to veer the discussion away from inflammatory rhetoric. I think my strikeout is what you meant to say. And, as a fan of the team that would fit that description, apparently the answer to that is "not any more".
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Apr 5, 2021 21:29:42 GMT -5
What a beautiful sight in Texas tonight.
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Post by purplehaze on Apr 5, 2021 21:43:33 GMT -5
All Star game moves to Denver. I’d love to compare voting regs in Colorado compared to Georgia - probably pretty close
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Post by hchoops on Apr 5, 2021 21:52:15 GMT -5
This is a baseball,, not political thread (The issue is not current voter registration, but future)
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Apr 5, 2021 22:00:36 GMT -5
The corporations and leagues hopping on board the woke train are getting laughable.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Apr 5, 2021 22:27:44 GMT -5
All Star game moves to Denver. I’d love to compare voting regs in Colorado compared to Georgia - probably pretty close What will the Home Run Derby be like in that launching pad?
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Post by Wormtown Railers Fan on Apr 5, 2021 22:39:17 GMT -5
Will those that applaud the change of venue for the all star game advocate for a boycott of the Olympics in China? I’m sure the oppression and cruelty in China far outweigh the new voting law in Georgia.
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Post by alum on Apr 6, 2021 5:25:13 GMT -5
Olympics are in Japan
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Post by Wormtown Railers Fan on Apr 6, 2021 6:45:33 GMT -5
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Post by HC92 on Apr 6, 2021 7:11:14 GMT -5
All Star game moves to Denver. I’d love to compare voting regs in Colorado compared to Georgia - probably pretty close What will the Home Run Derby be like in that launching pad? Don’t care. Won’t be watching.
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Post by timholycross on Apr 6, 2021 7:29:58 GMT -5
You only have to wait until next February to be correct, WRF; 2022 Winter Olympics are in Beijing.
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