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Post by efg72 on Apr 13, 2021 17:32:02 GMT -5
Thanks
I believe PP, DaDominate and medical experts will have great insights
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Climbing Mt. St. James
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Post by pcfriar on Apr 13, 2021 18:36:12 GMT -5
Join the Facebook Group: Vaccine Hunters/Angels Massachusetts. We had a similar groups in South Florida and it was extremely helpful.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Apr 13, 2021 19:45:59 GMT -5
Thank you td.
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Post by HC92 on Apr 15, 2021 8:32:29 GMT -5
To answer my question in another thread, the CDC chief recently said they have no proof that the J&J vaccine causes blood clots. Rather, the pause is more about making sure doctors know how to properly treat the clots as the normal treatment, heparin, is not appropriate after the J&J vaccine.
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Post by HC92 on Apr 15, 2021 8:35:35 GMT -5
Also, no word yet on the expected campus-wide outbreak connected to allowing visiting parents to attend the Fordham football game at Fitton. Turns out college students doing college student things is more likely to spread the virus on a campus than a few hundred parents sitting outside in a massive stadium even if some of those parents are rooting for the visiting team.
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Post by rgs318 on Apr 15, 2021 8:45:59 GMT -5
Perhaps you should cc that post to Bucknell, hc92.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Apr 16, 2021 8:08:22 GMT -5
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Post by timholycross on Apr 17, 2021 9:39:27 GMT -5
Interesting that the variant people in Mass. are worried about is the Brazilian one given that there are large communities of Brazilian descent in several Mass. cities and towns.
However, unless there's been more travel in the last year to and from Brazil than I think; it's just a coincidence.
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Post by HC92 on Apr 17, 2021 9:54:19 GMT -5
I’m offended that all you xenophobes are calling it the “Brazilian” variant.
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Post by higheredguy on Apr 17, 2021 10:56:59 GMT -5
Appears that a student group is collecting response about the COVID experience. Maybe we could all contribute a 100 or less word piece? Here is the link: covidchronicles.g.holycross.edu/
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Post by purplehaze on Apr 17, 2021 12:03:18 GMT -5
There might be something happening among athletes - not clear if positive tests were part of the shutdown of both lax programs, but just today the softball team postponed (cancelled) 10 upcoming games over the next week and an half
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Apr 17, 2021 17:40:19 GMT -5
There might be something happening among athletes - not clear if positive tests were part of the shutdown of both lax programs, but just today the softball team postponed (cancelled) 10 upcoming games over the next week and an half M/W lacrosse were COVID-cases on the roster, the result supposedly of gather together, not wearing masks, and not practicing social distancing. Unless HC hasn't reported all positives from Thursday's and Friday's tests, there was only one positive from Thursday, and one from Friday, --which by itself should produce a 5-7 day quarantine but not a 10 day cessation of practice/play.
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Post by alum on Apr 23, 2021 9:25:18 GMT -5
I just poked around the various websites of the major hospital chains in Connecticut. They all have hundreds of vaccine appointments available every day, including today. I would assume that the same is true, or is about to be true, in other states as well. If you haven't received your vaccine, get it. If you know someone who hasn't received one, encourage him or her to do so. Remember that there are some older and/or less educated people who are intimidated by the appointment process. Offer to help them navigate the process (Say that you had trouble figuring it out yourself/had to ask for help but have it mastered and would be pleased to assist) or encourage them to go to locations where there are walk in appointments available.
I am not sure why the newspapers don't have lists of sites and open times right on their websites. We will be wearing masks forever if people don't get vaccinated.
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Post by Tom on Apr 23, 2021 9:50:58 GMT -5
We will be wearing masks forever if people don't get vaccinated. I believe the current plan at B.U. is for all students, faculty, and staff to wear masks forever. However, there is no requirement that the mask cover the nose or mouth. Wearing the mask on the chin is perfectly acceptable
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Post by efg72 on Apr 24, 2021 7:08:37 GMT -5
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Post by hcpride on Apr 24, 2021 7:46:06 GMT -5
We will be wearing masks forever if people don't get vaccinated. I believe the current plan at B.U. is for all students, faculty, and staff to wear masks forever. However, there is no requirement that the mask cover the nose or mouth. Wearing the mask on the chin is perfectly acceptable This would almost be the perfect definition of virtue signaling (a thoroughly ineffective public action done solely to support a narrative. Accompanied by the thought, I am so good.). To be fair this is actually ‘virtue signaling by proxy’ since the kids themselves wouldn’t think of something so inane.
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Post by hcpride on Apr 24, 2021 8:06:49 GMT -5
Took a quick look and they seem to conclude transmission with 6 hours of indoor classroom time (w/masks) daily would be quite rare. And that is assuming one of the students/teachers may be a carrier and nobody is vaccinated. I know there is an err-on-the safe side (AKA ignore the science) mentality amongst some - and these are unusual political times - but doesn’t this rationally suggest college kids should have been back in actual class (w/masks) for their 2-3 daily classroom hours long long ago? And (not to pile on), but this sort of study essentially makes the peculiar fantasy of masked and distanced fans in outdoor stadiums for 2-3 hour contests spreading covid more than a bit farfetched. And more superstition than science.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Apr 24, 2021 8:51:38 GMT -5
Key points from the article...
Our theoretical model quantifies the extent to which transmission risk is reduced in large rooms with high air exchange rates, increased for more vigorous respiratory activities, and dramatically reduced by the use of face masks.
Depends on the rates of ventilation and air filtration, dimensions of the room, breathing rate, respiratory activity and face mask use of its occupants, and infectiousness of the respiratory aerosols.
The theoretical model developed herein informs the risk of airborne transmission resulting from the inhalation of small, aerosol droplets that remain suspended for extended periods within closed, well-mixed indoor spaces. When people cough, sneeze, sing, speak, or breathe, they expel an array of liquid droplets formed by the shear-induced or capillary destabilization of the mucosal linings of the lungs and respiratory tract (8, 34, 35) and saliva in the mouth (36, 37). When the person is infectious, these droplets of sputum are potentially pathogen bearing, and represent the principle vector of disease transmission. The range of the exhaled pathogens is determined by the radii of the carrier droplets, which typically lie in the range of 0.1 μm to 1 mm. While the majority are submicron in scale, the drop size distribution depends on the form of exhalation event (11). For normal breathing, the drop radii vary between 0.1 and 5.0 μm, with a peak around 0.5 μm (11, 38, 39). Relatively large drops are more prevalent in the case of more violent expiratory events such as coughing and sneezing (20, 40). The ultimate fate of the droplets is determined by their size and the airflows they encounter (41, 42). Exhalation events are accompanied by a time-dependent gas-phase flow emitted from the mouth that may be roughly characterized in terms of either continuous turbulent jets or discrete puffs (20, 38, 43). The precise form of the gas flow depends on the nature of the exhalation event, specifically the time dependence of the flux of air expelled. Coughs and sneezes result in violent, episodic puff releases (20), while speaking and singing result in a puff train that may be well approximated as a continuous turbulent jet (38, 43). Eventually, the small droplets settle out of such turbulent gas flows. In the presence of a quiescent ambient, they then settle to the floor; however, in the well-mixed ambient more typical of a ventilated space, sufficiently small drops may be suspended by the ambient airflow and mixed throughout the room until being removed by the ventilation outflow or inhaled (SI Appendix, section 1).
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Post by efg72 on Apr 24, 2021 9:00:38 GMT -5
Since i posted the MIT piece
My take aways on the US Covid experience
Nobody tells the truth and data is being manipulated to fit the narrative on the left and right
Vaccines help, but not a full solution
Variants exist in each city, county and state
A large segment of the population is far less vulnerable to the virus in the short term, but nobody knows the long term implications, if any, ---If you are less vulnerable today does that mean you are good in the future?
Too many unanswered questions
But that is science and why we have hypothesis, proof of concept and benefit/risk decisions
We have Star Wars science with Flintstone infrastructure ( includes our government leaders)
Thought you might want a good laugh
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Post by alum on Apr 24, 2021 9:33:59 GMT -5
I believe the current plan at B.U. is for all students, faculty, and staff to wear masks forever. However, there is no requirement that the mask cover the nose or mouth. Wearing the mask on the chin is perfectly acceptable This would almost be the perfect definition of virtue signaling (a thoroughly ineffective public action done solely to support a narrative. Accompanied by the thought, I am so good.). To be fair this is actually ‘virtue signaling by proxy’ since the kids themselves wouldn’t think of something so inane. I think he was kidding
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Post by alum on Apr 24, 2021 9:40:28 GMT -5
Took a quick look and they seem to conclude transmission with 6 hours of indoor classroom time (w/masks) daily would be quite rare. And that is assuming one of the students/teachers may be a carrier and nobody is vaccinated. I know there is an err-on-the safe side (AKA ignore the science) mentality amongst some - and these are unusual political times - but doesn’t this rationally suggest college kids should have been back in actual class (w/masks) for their 2-3 daily classroom hours long long ago? And (not to pile on), but this sort of study essentially makes the peculiar fantasy of masked and distanced fans in outdoor stadiums for 2-3 hour contests spreading covid more than a bit farfetched. And more superstition than science. Instead of your constant drumbeat about school opening ( knowing that the biggest impediment to it had been your profession) why don’t you tell us that you support the science by supporting vaccination. It would be nice to know what strategies you as a science teacher recommend to increase the percentage of Americans who are vaccinated.
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Post by efg72 on Apr 24, 2021 9:40:37 GMT -5
Why is proper regulatory oversight critically important when it comes to efforts such as these relating to vaccines? Well, given our Christian concern for people the world over and the fact that this virus is readily transmissible, this commentary gives reason for serious thought if not outright pause in some of these pursuits. The author of this piece Brazil's Report on Bharat Biotech Plant: Why is the CDSCO (Central Drugs Standard Control Organization) Silent? concludes: But these issues must be clarified because they could imply that CDSCO overlooked quality problems with Covaxin in an effort to get the vaccine out quickly. Over the last year, the CDSCO, the Indian Council of Medical Research (Bharat Biotech’s co-developer for Covaxin), and Bharat Biotech have shown a tendency to skip due diligence in the interest of speed.
These incidents have been worrying. In July last year, the director general of ICMR wrote to all the investigators in the first-in-human trials of Covaxin, asking them to begin enrolling participants within six days. The decision was heavily criticised by clinical research experts, because it could have hurt the quality of the trial. Then, in December, Bharat Biotech controversially applied for accelerated approval of its vaccine in India, even though it had not yet shown the efficacy of its product. A few weeks later, in January 2021, participants at the Bhopal site for Covaxin’s Phase 3 trial complained of serious protocol breaches, claims that the company, ICMR and CDSCO dismissed without addressing. www.thequint.com/coronavirus/explained-why-is-cdsco-silent-on-brazils-report-on-bharat-biotech-plant#read-moreWhen the Brazilian variant topic is broached, perhaps this piece can be entered into the discussion. The Brazillian variant is worthy of our attention
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Post by CHC8485 on Apr 24, 2021 9:48:12 GMT -5
Too many unanswered questions But that is science and why we have hypothesis, proof of concept and benefit/risk decisions TY efg. That is indeed how science works and too many people do not understand this think the science is decided and static. Save for the initial recommendation to not wear masks, which I believe was recommended to prevent a greater run on masks in the early days of this pandemic, seems to me most who ask why they keep changing the guidance do not understand this. Further, to unanswered questions - every governmental and organizational decision to protect against infection - which can change tomorrow depending on what is learned today - is based on risk tolerance which vary widely from individual to individual. Which IMO, makes railing against too many or to few restrictions pointless, because you will not change someone's risk tolerance until more questions are answered..
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Post by hcpride on Apr 24, 2021 9:54:28 GMT -5
Took a quick look and they seem to conclude transmission with 6 hours of indoor classroom time (w/masks) daily would be quite rare. And that is assuming one of the students/teachers may be a carrier and nobody is vaccinated. I know there is an err-on-the safe side (AKA ignore the science) mentality amongst some - and these are unusual political times - but doesn’t this rationally suggest college kids should have been back in actual class (w/masks) for their 2-3 daily classroom hours long long ago? And (not to pile on), but this sort of study essentially makes the peculiar fantasy of masked and distanced fans in outdoor stadiums for 2-3 hour contests spreading covid more than a bit farfetched. And more superstition than science. Instead of your constant drumbeat about school opening ( knowing that the biggest impediment to it had been your profession) why don’t you tell us that you support the science by supporting vaccination. It would be nice to know what strategies you as a science teacher recommend to increase the percentage of Americans who are vaccinated. LOL. Maybe you should comment on things that I want you to comment on.
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Post by hc6774 on Apr 26, 2021 11:41:28 GMT -5
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