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Post by hcpride on Jun 5, 2021 4:31:14 GMT -5
New York State on Friday tentatively lifted an order that required wearing masks in schools, as officials waded into a hotly contested issue regarding COVID-19 safeguards.
The new mandate goes into effect Monday, barring objections from federal health officials, and also applies to camps, along with teachers and counselors. The decision drew immediate praise and criticism.
"As a minimum statewide guidance," school districts do not have to make vaccinated or even unvaccinated students, teachers, counselors or other staff wear face masks while indoors, though it is "strongly encouraged" for those who have not completed their vaccinations for COVID-19, state Health Commissioner Howard Zucker said in a letter to the head of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention...
The state’s shift was announced after Walensky said in a statement Friday morning that "until they are fully vaccinated, adolescents should continue to wear masks and take precautions when around [others] who are not vaccinated."...
New York State's mask mandate had ended in April across a range of categories but remained in place at schools, on public transportation, hospitals, nursing homes and correctional facilities... www.newsday.com/news/health/coronavirus/covid-19-virus-nyc-long-island-vaccine-1.50268028 (May be a paywall)
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Post by timholycross on Jun 5, 2021 6:54:03 GMT -5
His deputy and the one who responds to most incoming emails from friends, neighbors and classmates is Hugh Auchincloss, M.D.-a special and kind man. So if you want to reach him go through Hugh. Once Tony sees the emails he follows up One of his mentors and my former boss had a rule- all calls returned that day-emails came many years later Related to Auchinclosses who were in some way related to Jackie Kennedy Onassis? There's a US Congressman from Mass. who's a member of that family as well.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jun 6, 2021 6:42:33 GMT -5
www.bostonglobe.com/2021/06/05/metro/dartmouth-college-first-year-suicides-grim-reminder-year-loneliness/I know in Massachusetts, the college and university presidents had a weekly telephone conference on pandemic response at their institutions, a sort of roundtable on lessons learned, and what was working and what wasn't. Fr. B. mentioned this inter-school communication several times. The PL presidents also had a regular tele-conference. Fr. B. relayed that both BostU and USNA were doing genomic testing of positive tests and discovered that the significantly more contagious UK variant was dominant at their institutions by the first week of March. HC subsequently decided to do some genomic testing as well. Genomic testing is much more expensive than the PCR testing for positive tests. Speaking of genomic sequencing, a lengthy profile of the massive effort to do this, and the pitfalls. www.technologyreview.com/2021/04/05/1021782/cdc-variant-surveillance-1-75-billion-wasted/An excerpt from the MIT 'journal'.
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Post by HC92 on Jun 6, 2021 8:11:14 GMT -5
I did enjoy my son’s outdoor high school choir concert yesterday where all of the singers had to distance from each other and wear masks while singing in the stifling heat while all of the maskless parents crammed into the bleachers to watch. Made total sense. And they were singing on the school’s turf field where maskless sporting events happen every day.
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Post by Chu Chu on Jun 6, 2021 18:44:23 GMT -5
Sad state of affairs and a damning commentary on a host of topics and individuals. The fact Is programs and practices that could/would have devastating impact on the mental health and well being of our younger generations were implemented to protect against a virus that has profoundly limited impact on their physical well being. Who is, was and has been truly and meaningfully looking out for the kids? Serious question. This mental health crisis which will persist far longer than any virus strikes me as a total failure of leadership on so many levels. #pathetic How would you have handled things?
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Post by efg72 on Jun 6, 2021 20:36:44 GMT -5
Actually virus/biochemical warfare strategies and preparation plans have been in place since the cold war, and I had meetings on the topic back in the 70s and 80s. Unfortunately stockpiling and infrastructure needs have lacked appropriate public private communications and coordination, government works in silos, and we as a country don't invest in CDC or other agencies/organizations that can help with needed prevention and preparation measures. The DIA/CIA/DARPA and BARDA/ASPR need better channels of communication and collaboration to solve problems.
Instead of NIH leading it should follow the guidance of Fort Detrick and the CIA.
Our political bodies rarely leadwith prevention plans for emergencies, but are good at responding and funding after the events -- I know that sounds like politics, but....
Willing to bet the reason this is such a mess is it relates to National security and the intelligence community is sitting on what it knows.
But that is not my craft so I defer to those that live in the world of mirrors to offer any insights
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Post by hcpride on Jun 6, 2021 21:21:52 GMT -5
Sad state of affairs and a damning commentary on a host of topics and individuals. The fact Is programs and practices that could/would have devastating impact on the mental health and well being of our younger generations were implemented to protect against a virus that has profoundly limited impact on their physical well being. Who is, was and has been truly and meaningfully looking out for the kids? Serious question. This mental health crisis which will persist far longer than any virus strikes me as a total failure of leadership on so many levels. #pathetic How would you have handled things? For starters, I would have directed all k-12 schools and colleges to return to in-person learning in August 2020 (the same way my school district, including high school, did). If not earlier. The avoidable mental health issues amongst young people will be with us for some time.
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Post by alum on Jun 7, 2021 6:37:47 GMT -5
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Post by rgs318 on Jun 7, 2021 7:15:10 GMT -5
I believe we are...or should be. France has already been doing this for some time. The French President spoke quite eloquently on why this is needed if we are to get a handle on this virus and its mutations.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jun 7, 2021 7:19:43 GMT -5
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Post by HC92 on Jun 7, 2021 7:23:27 GMT -5
I think we should definitely participate in getting vaccines to those who need them. The two concerns with these efforts are always how we ensure that the money gets where it’s supposed to go and whether the US share of such an effort is appropriate. We are $28.4T in debt and counting so hopefully other nations will pay their fair share.
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Post by alum on Jun 7, 2021 8:19:06 GMT -5
I think we should definitely participate in getting vaccines to those who need them. The two concerns with these efforts are always how we ensure that the money gets where it’s supposed to go and whether the US share of such an effort is appropriate. We are $28.4T in debt and counting so hopefully other nations will pay their fair share. Agree that this is a problem with aid going to many countries. I certainly favor an international group bringing the vaccines into the countries and overseeing the distribution with as little involvement of leaders in the most corrupt nations would be best. I also know that there will be countries where this is a problem. I think that the proposals are for other wealthy countries to participate.
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Post by hcpride on Jun 7, 2021 8:42:03 GMT -5
We’re giving 750,000 vaccines to Taiwan: A delegation of US senators visited Taiwan on Sunday morning local time to announce the donation of 750,000 doses of Covid-19 vaccine. Taiwanese President Tsai Ing-wen called the vaccines "timely rain" for the island, which has only vaccinated 3% of its population and on Saturday recorded its highest daily Covid death toll of 37 fatalities.www.cnn.com/2021/06/07/china/us-senators-taiwan-china-reaction-intl-mic-hnk/index.htmlPresumably, should the lab leak theory prove out, China will pony up for the worldwide costs of a vaccine (or at least somebody will ask them to).
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Post by purplehaze on Jun 7, 2021 9:02:27 GMT -5
China will 'pony up' for nothing - and we're still in bed with them for so much of our economy, we have very little leverage
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Post by hcpride on Jun 7, 2021 9:36:54 GMT -5
China will 'pony up' for nothing - and we're still in bed with them for so much of our economy, we have very little leverage I noted ‘worldwide’. Perhaps India. Perhaps a poor continent. Not always about us.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jun 7, 2021 11:37:06 GMT -5
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Post by hcpride on Jun 7, 2021 18:54:13 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 7, 2021 20:48:54 GMT -5
We’re giving 750,000 vaccines to Taiwan: A delegation of US senators visited Taiwan on Sunday morning local time to announce the donation of 750,000 doses of Covid-19 vaccine. Taiwanese President Tsai Ing-wen called the vaccines "timely rain" for the island, which has only vaccinated 3% of its population and on Saturday recorded its highest daily Covid death toll of 37 fatalities.www.cnn.com/2021/06/07/china/us-senators-taiwan-china-reaction-intl-mic-hnk/index.htmlPresumably, should the lab leak theory prove out, China will pony up for the worldwide costs of a vaccine (or at least somebody will ask them to). Trump demanded $10 trillion at his North Carolina Speech.
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Post by hcpride on Jun 8, 2021 7:03:20 GMT -5
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jun 8, 2021 10:43:33 GMT -5
Don't forget the role Cotton played in the kidnapping of the Lindbergh baby
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Post by sader1970 on Jun 8, 2021 12:40:21 GMT -5
“ Don't forget the role Cotton played in the kidnapping of the Lindbergh baby”
Yes, I believe the dead baby was discovered wrapped in a cotton comforter.
Or were you being sarcastic? Not sure as I always depended on Sarasota to spot sarcasm for me on the board.
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Post by newfieguy74 on Jun 8, 2021 12:46:14 GMT -5
Perhaps more Americans should have been as cynical as Cotton about China. It's safe to say that China lies about much. But now Cotton is proclaiming his cynicism as fact. As far as I know we don't yet exactly know the origins of the pandemic. He's quite extreme in his views. No surprise NR would feature them.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jun 8, 2021 12:54:02 GMT -5
What is extreme about suspecting that a lab in the city where the virus sprang into the populace might have been responsible?
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Post by newfieguy74 on Jun 8, 2021 13:37:03 GMT -5
What is extreme about suspecting that a lab in the city where the virus sprang into the populace might have been responsible? Not a thing. As I said above, perhaps more Americans should have been as suspicious of the Chinese. It's some of his other views/statements I'm referring to (e.g. calling for invoking the Insurrection Act and mobilizing overwhelming military force to deal with the protests that occurred after the murder of George Floyd).
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jun 8, 2021 13:38:40 GMT -5
I'm shooting the messengers. The two authors of the WSJ opinion piece are Robert Muller, a physicist by training and reputation, who has become a climate activist and energy expert. He has no background in biology. He did opine in an MIT Technology Review commentary years ago that the anthrax attacks post 9-11 were directed by OBL, and carried out by AQ adherents. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_anthrax_attacksAll of the Anthrax came from the Ames strain. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ames_strainAs for Steven Quay, he is a physician, a pathologist, specializing in the pathology of breast cancer, particularly in men, apparently. His proof that the coronavirus arose in a Wuhan lab is based on a Bayesian analysis. See: zenodo.org/record/4642956#.YL-y-flKi6lThe paper, from March 20, was self-published, and there is no indication it was ever submitted to a journal publication, where it would be reviewed before publication. So much for his professional qualifications. If I were touting a particular hypothesis, I would find it embarrassing to promote the conclusions of two professionals who are opining far beyond their area of expertise. Perhaps someone who regularly prepares Bayesian analyses would care to review the pathologist's paper. As someone who took a course in logic at HC, their basic proposition is a non sequitur.
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