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Post by sader1970 on Aug 13, 2021 10:00:39 GMT -5
Heard on the radio a partial interview with the Mississippi football coach that every player, coach and staff member on the team has been vaccinated. Not via mandate but by leadership of the coaches and players.
Apparently they will be using this as an example for others in the state to encourage them to overcome the low vaccination rate among the general public.
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Post by lou on Aug 13, 2021 10:19:33 GMT -5
I recently heard a D1 AD say it would be virtually impossible to separate vaccinated & unvaccinated athletes from locker rooms, facilities, practices, you name it. So he's saying you want to be a student-athlete, get vaccinated
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Post by Tom on Aug 13, 2021 11:14:13 GMT -5
According to Yahoo Sports ....Tulane first FBS team to require COVID-19 vaccination or negative test for fans Tulane University became the first FBS college football program to require vaccination or a negative COVID-19 test within 72 hours to attend a home game this season. Reasonable to assume that fans are going to have to allow a lot more time to get into the stadium. I'll bet the process will be slower than going through the medical detector. I'm curious if a photo on the phone will suffice or if the actual card must be produced
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Post by CHC8485 on Aug 13, 2021 11:26:16 GMT -5
According to Yahoo Sports ....Tulane first FBS team to require COVID-19 vaccination or negative test for fans Tulane University became the first FBS college football program to require vaccination or a negative COVID-19 test within 72 hours to attend a home game this season. Reasonable to assume that fans are going to have to allow a lot more time to get into the stadium. I'll bet the process will be slower than going through the medical detector.
I'm curious if a photo on the phone will suffice or if the actual card must be produced If only such a medical detector existed!
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Post by hcpride on Aug 13, 2021 11:30:49 GMT -5
According to Yahoo Sports ....Tulane first FBS team to require COVID-19 vaccination or negative test for fans Tulane University became the first FBS college football program to require vaccination or a negative COVID-19 test within 72 hours to attend a home game this season. Reasonable to assume that fans are going to have to allow a lot more time to get into the stadium. I'll bet the process will be slower than going through the medical detector. I'm curious if a photo on the phone will suffice or if the actual card must be produced I guess the young kids will have negative covid tests? (I'm too lazy to read the Tulane rules but maybe young fans will be exempted or double masked or something for the outdoor games?)
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Aug 13, 2021 11:33:08 GMT -5
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Post by efg72 on Aug 13, 2021 11:38:38 GMT -5
Thank you EFG72. Always a voice of reasoned and informed analysis. Greatly appreciated. I also appreciate your highlighting the fact that these are not traditional vaccines per se but rather gene therapy and that " it may be unethical to give to children and adolescents." Hopefully those topics will lead people to study these issues even further as the topic of third, fourth or who knows how many so called boosters lie on the horizon. On the topic of ethics, begs the question if we truly do have any ethics anymore in this country. (see more under University of Pittsburgh and procuring body parts from live fetuses including racial targeting). That topic certainly deserves its own thread. Special place in hell for that crowd also. Please note the comments made in my post came from others-- I have tried to pass on information so people can make their own decisions and I have done my best not to judge or make judgements. My crew of 9 are fully vaccinated, but we all made our own choice on taking the shots. The question about children and teens remains large for me because of the longer term impact of the vaccine and the virus. Risk benefit is important to understand but it is important to remember this virus does attack all of us with the greatest impact on the most vulnerable. Greg Gutfeld showed this to his wife who isn't vaccinated. Unvaccinated Vaccinated Covid | BAD | GOOD | Long Covid | BAD | UNKNOWN |
A good way, and yet not the only way to think about- and then make a decision that is right for you and those you love
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Post by efg72 on Aug 13, 2021 11:46:24 GMT -5
As I said below-- the information is out there- both true and false, and even some with shades of grey.
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 13, 2021 11:51:25 GMT -5
1.) No vaccine is 100 percent effective, and that includes the measles and polio vaccines. 2.) Being infected with COVID does not confer lifelong immunity (acquired immunity). You could be re-infected at some point in the future, and people are. Being vaccinated with a COVID vaccine also does not confer lifelong immunity. What certain vaccines, such as the smallpox and polio vaccines, have done is reduce the rate of new infection to zero, and without an infected host, the virus becomes extinct. Already, a variant of COVID has become extinct, because the host population (minks) was culled. 3.) To limit vaccinations to certain cohorts of the population (e.g., those over 65) would allow the virus to continue spreading among the unvaccinated, and to continue mutating into new variants. The initial vaccines given to these cohorts may be less effective against a new variant, requiring a new vaccine formulation, or a booster. And the cycle keeps repeating because no effort is being made to reduce infection and re-infection in the larger population. What vaccinations do for viruses such as COVID, is reduce the R number below 1. An R number below 1 means that an infected person will subsequently infect less than one other person. E.g., an R of 0.8 means 10 infected people would further infect eight people. Those eight would further infect six, and so on. An R number above one means that an infected person will infect more than one other person. For COVID, the R number is 3, meaning an infected person will infect three other individuals if they are not vaccinated, or do not have acquired immunity, or preventive measures such as masks and social distancing are not being used. Again, with an R of 3, 10 infected people will infect 30. Thirty infected people will infect 90. Ninety infected people will infect 270, and so on. The R value of 3.0 is for older variants of COVID, Wuhan had an R of 2.3-2.7.
The Delta variant has an R value of 6 to 7. Measles has an R of 15. Chicken pox, in Norway, an R between 3.7 and 5.0 (I've seen much higher). Smallpox, 3. Polio, 4-6. This is better education than on CNN and no commercials either.
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 13, 2021 12:04:12 GMT -5
There will never be a wide spread Covid-19 variant that is less nasty than Delta. Why? Because when new variants that are less transmissible than Delta arise, which I am sure do, they will be out-spread by the more transmissible Delta.
Only more transmissible variants could surpass Delta from what I can figure, but I don't know how a less contagious but more lethal variant would fare against D.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Aug 13, 2021 12:32:29 GMT -5
I came across Malone's name in a tweet several weeks ago. Someone had tweeted that he claimed to have invented mRNA vaccine, and someone else tweeted in reply, that he had looked up his name in a reference list of those who had key roles in the development of the BioNtech and Moderna vaccines, and he wasn't listed.
So I looked up his Linkedin profile. His MD was from Northwestern, no residency listed, and I learned from elsewhere that he is a pathologist.
From memory, his first 'job' was as a research fellow at Salk, in La Jolla. Which is impressive in its own right. After several years at Salk, there began a progression of jobs at pharmaceutical companies, with a tenure-at-each trajectory that becomes increasingly abbreviated. I thought to myself, he has concluded that he can make more money as a hired gun consultant/contractor, than as a regular employee. And that's where I left it, and him, until I read the Atlantic profile, which describes his 'head-butting' with other employees.
In one sense, I feel sorry for him because he was not able to exploit his early achievements, and now he has fallen in to this deep funk because of that. And I also feel sorry for him because he caught COVID early-on, before vaccinations became widespread, and now suffers from long COVID.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 13, 2021 12:44:15 GMT -5
1.) No vaccine is 100 percent effective, and that includes the measles and polio vaccines. 2.) Being infected with COVID does not confer lifelong immunity (acquired immunity). You could be re-infected at some point in the future, and people are. Being vaccinated with a COVID vaccine also does not confer lifelong immunity. What certain vaccines, such as the smallpox and polio vaccines, have done is reduce the rate of new infection to zero, and without an infected host, the virus becomes extinct. Already, a variant of COVID has become extinct, because the host population (minks) was culled. 3.) To limit vaccinations to certain cohorts of the population (e.g., those over 65) would allow the virus to continue spreading among the unvaccinated, and to continue mutating into new variants. The initial vaccines given to these cohorts may be less effective against a new variant, requiring a new vaccine formulation, or a booster. And the cycle keeps repeating because no effort is being made to reduce infection and re-infection in the larger population. What vaccinations do for viruses such as COVID, is reduce the R number below 1. An R number below 1 means that an infected person will subsequently infect less than one other person. E.g., an R of 0.8 means 10 infected people would further infect eight people. Those eight would further infect six, and so on. An R number above one means that an infected person will infect more than one other person. For COVID, the R number is 3, meaning an infected person will infect three other individuals if they are not vaccinated, or do not have acquired immunity, or preventive measures such as masks and social distancing are not being used. Again, with an R of 3, 10 infected people will infect 30. Thirty infected people will infect 90. Ninety infected people will infect 270, and so on. The R value of 3.0 is for older variants of COVID, Wuhan had an R of 2.3-2.7.
The Delta variant has an R value of 6 to 7. Measles has an R of 15. Chicken pox, in Norway, an R between 3.7 and 5.0 (I've seen much higher). Smallpox, 3. Polio, 4-6. This is better education than on CNN and no commercials either. What is not?
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Post by possum on Aug 13, 2021 13:00:45 GMT -5
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Post by efg72 on Aug 13, 2021 16:01:17 GMT -5
Israel Approves Third Vaccine Dose for Those Over 50 By Daniel Avis August 13, 2021, 3:23 AM EDT
Move lowers age of eligibility for booster shot from 60+
Israel approved the use of the Pfizer-BioNTech booster vaccine for those over the age of 50 from Friday, as the country grapples with its fourth wave of Covid-19.
Israel’s Covid-19 national experts advisory team had recommended that the age of eligibility be lowered to 50 from 60, and it was accepted by the Ministry of Health, according to a government statement. Healthcare workers, prisoners, prison wardens and some high-risk patients under the age of 50 will also be offered the third shot.
Israel became the first country to approve the use of booster shots for over-60s in late July, despite a lack of wide-spread evidence of its efficacy. Since then, almost 775,000 people in that age group received a third dose, according to the Ministry of Health. The move has been closely watched around the world, with some other countries preparing to roll out a booster shot as the delta variant causes new cases to surge.
Despite an early and effective vaccination campaign, the number of serious cases in Israel has risen almost tenfold over the last month, from 45 cases on July 13 to 462 on Friday, according to data from the Ministry of Health. Of those, 75 are on ventilators.
Prime Minister Naftali Bennett said it was “the right decision for the health of the citizens of Israel” for a booster shot as recommended by the advisory team, according to a Thursday statement from the Prime Minister’s office.
The U.S. Food and Drug Administration on Thursday approved the use of the booster shots from Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna Inc. for people with compromised immune systems.
More than 90% of the severe cases in Israel are among people over the age of 50, Bennett said on Tuesday.
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 13, 2021 16:12:54 GMT -5
I received the Moderna shot and one study shows it holding up better than Pfizer. Probably a blip that will be countered by further studies, especially since I generally get the short end of the stick in things like this.🙂
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Post by efg72 on Aug 13, 2021 16:57:54 GMT -5
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 13, 2021 17:18:27 GMT -5
I received the Moderna shot and one study shows it holding up better than Pfizer. Probably a blip that will be countered by further studies, especially since I generally get the short end of the stick in things like this.🙂 Long, there was a report that the Moderna vaccine not only suppresses Covid, it suppresses the sense of humor in the patient. Who knew?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2021 0:30:02 GMT -5
I cant believe people actually listen to a P.O.S. like Steve Bannon. At one time he pulled the strings for the Grifter.Two peas in a pod. Snake oil salesmen.
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Post by bfoley82 on Aug 14, 2021 2:02:24 GMT -5
With sufficient time having lapsed and sufficient data having been collected, a review of how other countries have handled this public health debacle seems both fair and appropriate. I would offer the following grades/ratings: Sweden: The Good Israel: The Bad Australia: The Ugly Although I guess the latter two ratings could be reversed depending on one's perspective. Australia has had a grand total of 948 deaths in their country of 25 million. Florida which has a smaller population has 40.7k deaths. Just the numbers.
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Post by efg72 on Aug 14, 2021 7:48:11 GMT -5
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Post by mm67 on Aug 14, 2021 8:42:06 GMT -5
Managing Risk: 1.Vaccinated - Both Masked, Distanced - Near Zero Risk. 2.Vaccinated - One Masked, Other Unmasked, Distanced - Slight Risk. 3.Vaccinated - No Masks, Distanced - Slightly Greater Risk. 4.Unvaccinated - Masked Distanced - Some Risk. 5.Unvaccinated - One Masked, Distanced - Greater Risk. 6. Unvaccinated - No masks, Distanced _ Great Chance of Infection; In close Quarters One is quite likely to get infected. There are obviously various combinations of the above. Obvious Conclusion: Since we are dealing wth a highly contagious, lethal, possibly fatal virus, why not manage one's risk to near zero or as close to near zero as possible? Benefit to risk is a no-brainer. Info, 1-6 in short form (1-3) was posted with drawings at various spots at Columbia University Medical Center. The conclusion was mine as it was obviously the point of the exercise. Vaccinate, Wear Masks and Distance.
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Post by efg72 on Aug 14, 2021 8:54:32 GMT -5
Deadly Covid-Linked Condition in Kids Poised for a Comeback Pediatric hospitals bracing for next wave of ICU admissions Doctors in Covid hotspots fearful about what’s likely to come By Anna Edney | August 14, 2021 8:00AM ET Pediatricians in U.S. Covid-19 hotspots are anticipating a delta-fueled swell of children with a rare, serious and sometimes deadly virus-linked condition as the fall resumption of school looms.
The condition, called multisystem inflammatory syndrome in children, occurs in a small number of kids who’ve been exposed to the coronavirus. Children can develop the illness even if they haven’t had Covid symptoms, and week-long intensive care unit stays are not uncommon.
Just discovered last year, MIS-C can wreak havoc on children’s hearts as well as their digestive, nervous and respiratory systems. With delta more than quadrupling pediatric Covid cases in the week ending Aug. 5 compared with a month earlier, doctors see an avalanche of the inflammatory disorder on the way.
“When we enter this phase now where potentially millions of children are going to be infected with Covid, by default we are going to have very high numbers of MIS-C,” said Allison Eckard, a pediatric infectious disease specialist at Medical University of South Carolina Children’s Health. “The percentage of children who are critically ill when they get admitted is unbelievable.”
Source: MUSC
Allison Eckard (right)
MIS-C appears to be an overreaction by the immune system to Covid-19, though its exact cause is not yet known. The excessive response can damage organs and blood vessels. When first seen, the condition was mistaken for Kawasaki disease, which causes swelling in artery walls throughout the body, sometimes leading to complications like aneurysms, according to U.S. health officials.
A hospital stay for MIS-C patients is usually about a week, doctors said. Many children start off with gastrointestinal symptoms like vomiting and diarrhea. Early symptoms can also include bloodshot eyes, chest tightness and rash.
Children typically need medication to stabilize their blood pressure as well as steroids and intravenous immunoglobulin, part of blood plasma that has antibodies in it to treat infection, to protect their hearts from inflammation.
Read More: Covid Shots Urged for Pregnant Women as Delta Spread Widens
The delta surge has created a dangerous situation for children. Kids have typically fared better than adults who are infected with Covid-19 but the impact of MIS-C and long Covid, when some symptoms persist for months or more, is unknown. Almost 94,000 Covid-19 cases were reported in children the week ending Aug. 5, the American Academy of Pediatrics said in its most recent weekly report, up from about 19,500 during the first week in July.
And more kids are being hospitalized with Covid than ever before: During the winter surge, the daily number peaked at 217. That number rose to a record high of 246 as of Aug. 10, the most recent day the CDC has data for.
As older Americans get vaccinated, the proportion of children among the total Covid count is also growing. In Mississippi, where daily Covid-19 cases have surpassed winter numbers with 2,600 new infections a day, kids now represent 21%, up from 15% in January, state health officials said Wednesday.
“I am really concerned right now about what we may see, and what we are beginning to see, with the incidence of MIS-C again in the context of the increasing proportion of children who are being infected with SARS-CoV-2, especially with children going back to school right now,” said Charlotte Hobbs, a pediatric infectious disease specialist who does follow-up care for kids treated at the University of Mississippi Medical Center’s MIS-C clinic.
‘Train Coming’
The state’s primary pediatric hospital, the center has been strained by the uptick in childhood Covid-19 cases as well as cases of respiratory syncytial virus, another childhood infection. Like other Southern states, Mississippi’s Covid vaccination rate among those 12 and older is low, and use of other prevention measures like masks has become lax.
Source: University of Mississippi Medical Center
Charlotte Hobbs
“If you see a train coming, you get off the tracks, and we just haven’t had the foresight to do that,” said Thomas Dobbs, Mississippi’s state health officer. “We have entered the realm of crisis standard of care. Don’t expect if you go into a hospital that they’re going to be able to treat you.”
The lack of resources is dangerous for MIS-C patients, most of whom need intensive care, Hobbs said.
The median age of children who come down with MIS-C is 9 and half are from 5 to 13 years old, according to the CDC. The agency has tallied more than 4,400 U.S. cases and 37 MIS-C deaths since early in the pandemic. Those numbers may be shy of the reality, as states only report voluntarily and sometimes the on-the-ground hospital counts are much higher than the CDC total.
The American Academy of Pediatrics sent a letter last week to the Food and Drug Administration urging the agency “to continue working aggressively towards authorizing safe and effective Covid-19 vaccines for children under age 12 as soon as possible.” Both Moderna Inc. and the partnership of Pfizer Inc. and BioNTech SE are studying their vaccines in children, and Moderna just doubled the size of its trial in response to a request from U.S. regulators for more safety data.
Shots Needed
“The delta variant really put some urgency on this as we enter the school year,” said Sean O’Leary, vice chairman of the academy’s Committee on Infectious Diseases who practices at Children’s Hospital Colorado. “Cases are rising everywhere and it’s all over the map what school districts are doing regarding masks.”
O’Leary said doctors expect that a Covid-19 shot would offer children protection from MIS-C as well.
“Our kids, especially those too young to receive the vaccine, are some of our most vulnerable patients,” said William Orr, a pediatric cardiologist at St. Louis Children’s Hospital in Missouri. “These are kids that are completely healthy. The kids that come in with MIS-C, parents are usually shocked. They may not know they were exposed to Covid in the past.”
Lack of Knowledge
One bright spot is that experience has improved treatment, Orr said. Since the pandemic began, doctors have gained a better understanding of how to treat MIS-C, and kids usually recover.
Doctors have been looking for signs of long-term complications in recovered patients, such as heart disease that sometimes appears in children who have had Kawasaki disease. Thomas Kimball, division chief of cardiology and co-leader of the MIS-C clinic at Children’s Hospital New Orleans, has been following 60 to 80 kids who had MIS-C previously during the pandemic. So far, he said, that doesn’t appear to be the case with the Covid-linked condition.
But he plans to continue to follow them “because we just don’t know,” Kimball said. That lack of knowledge keeps the level of anxiety high at the New Orleans hospital, where 12 Covid patients were in treatment Tuesday, most of them younger than 2 years old.
“We’re tremendously nervous,” Kimball said. “We’re anticipating worse MIS-C in terms of number and severity.”
--With assistance from Riley Griffin. To contact the reporter on this story: Anna Edney in Washington at aedney@bloomberg.net To contact the editors responsible for this story: Timothy Annett at tannett@bloomberg.net Anna Edney, John Lauerman
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Post by efg72 on Aug 14, 2021 10:55:22 GMT -5
What Will It Take to Stop the Delta Virus Variant: QuickTake By Jason Gale | August 13, 2021 8:36PM ET A more powerful driver of Covid-19 outbreaks than any strain of the coronavirus encountered so far, the delta variant is testing the limits of public health defenses globally. The good news is that in most cases, the effectiveness of vaccines at protecting against severe disease is maintained; the vast majority of infections are occurring in unvaccinated people. But vaccines alone don’t provide a fail-safe shield. Increasingly, public health specialists stress that countering delta will require multiple strategies.
Source: Quicktake
“It really starts and ends with vaccines.”How do you stop delta from spreading? Johns Hopkins School of Public Health Professor Andrew Pekosz offers five tips to help contain the highly contagious variant
1. Why is delta harder to stop than other strains?
Delta is both more infectious and more capable of evading immunity generated by either vaccination or a previous natural infection. It’s not known exactly why, but scientists believe it’s probably a combination of factors, including that:
It replicates faster and reaches significantly higher concentrations in the upper airways. It’s expelled in greater quantities by infected individuals. Its viral particles are better at latching on to the ACE2 receptor, an enzyme found on the surface of many cells that the virus uses to infect them. It may be more efficient at causing infection, by requiring fewer viral particles or a lower infectious dose. 2. What’s the best defense against delta?
A full course of vaccination, which is two shots for most formulations, is the best way to protect against sickness requiring hospitalization in the event of a delta infection. To quash delta’s threat, it’s necessary that sufficient supplies of vaccine are made available worldwide, and that sizable majorities in communities get inoculated. Without that, populations will be susceptible to delta-driven epidemics that will result in large numbers of infections, hospitalizations, and, ultimately, deaths. Where that occurs, eventually enough of those who survive will develop natural immunity to reduce the number of people susceptible to the virus, causing transmission to slow and eventually stop. Allowing that to happen would not only create misery in the community and burnout among health-care workers, it would also risk spawning new variants. The more the virus circulates, the more opportunity it has to acquire mutations that enable it to evade immunity or transmit even more readily.
3. Are vaccines working?
Yes. The benefit of immunization is that it trains the immune system to recognize and fight the virus faster, which helps prevent an infection from progressing. So an infection that might otherwise have caused severe illness is more likely to result in a mild case, and what could have been a mild case may instead be an asymptomatic infection. Countries with high rates of immunization have a lower proportion of Covid cases requiring hospitalization, providing proof that vaccines are working.
4. Then why are infections occurring among the vaccinated?
No Covid vaccine provides complete protection against infection. Antibodies trained to block or neutralize the coronavirus are the key defense against stopping infection and preventing onward transmission. But people react differently to vaccination, resulting in a wide variation in the amount and quality of the antibodies they generate after an inoculation. Research suggests that some vaccinated individuals may not produce sufficient antibody levels in their upper airways to counter a delta infection early enough to stop it from replicating in the nose and throat, leading to so-called breakthrough infections. Still, a fully vaccinated person typically clears the infection faster than someone who’s unvaccinated or partially vaccinated. That not only prevents the infection from causing worse symptoms, it also shortens the period a vaccinated person is likely to be infectious and thus reduces their likelihood of passing the virus on.
5. What can be done to make vaccines more effective?
Health authorities in some wealthy countries have begun offering additional doses to bolster levels of immunity -- a third shot in the case of most vaccines or a second one in the case of the single-dose Johnson & Johnson formulation. Such decisions may be based on concerns about the effectiveness of the shots already used, waning levels of immunity over time, and the need to protect especially vulnerable groups, notably the elderly and people with underlying immune deficiencies that prevented them from gaining the level of protection that a regular course of vaccine provides people with normal immune systems. In time, periodic booster doses of vaccine will likely be needed for everyone to strengthen and broaden their array of virus-blocking antibodies. Studies so far indicate immunity is enhanced when different types of vaccines are used in combination. Offering extra doses now, however, is controversial. Some public health specialists have characterized it as unethical as long as poorer countries lack supplies to cover significant portions of their populations with initial shots.
Eric Topol @erictopol Current Israel data for mRNA vaccination in people age >60, 1st to get vaccines >6 months ago, now confronting Delta infections 1. Vaccines work but their apparent effectiveness is diminished over time + Delta 2. Boosters showing some preliminary evidence of working via @dvir_a
Sent via Twitter Web App. View original tweet. 6. Are vaccines enough?
Health professionals say vaccines won’t be sufficient to stop delta in communities with high rates of transmission. Where that’s the case, they say, additional measures will be necessary to impede its spread. These include the same strategies that were central before vaccines became available: people wearing face masks, maintaining a physical distance from others, and avoiding mass gatherings, such as summer festivities on Cape Cod that resulted in a large outbreak among mostly vaccinated people. In addition, researchers are calling for ventilation systems to be overhauled just as public water supplies were in the 1800s after fetid pipes were found to harbor cholera. In an article in the journal Science, 39 scientists from 14 countries asked the World Health Organization to extend its indoor air quality guidelines to cover airborne pathogens such as the coronavirus, and for building ventilation standards to include higher airflow, filtration and disinfection rates as well as monitors that enable members of the public to gauge the quality of the air they’re breathing.
7. Will vaccines ever be able to prevent coronavirus infection?
Potentially. The shots we’re using now may not be the ones we rely on in the future. Among the Covid vaccines under development are some that aim to stimulate a more robust immune response in the nasal tract through which the virus is likely to enter the body. The hope is that by improving immune defenses there, the virus could be snuffed out before it has a chance to cause an infection, much less penetrate the lungs and cause a more severe illness.
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Related QuickTakes on why delta is so disruptive, the future of Covid, the debate over booster shots, breakthrough infections, and how well vaccines are working. The World Health Organization’s weekly epidemiological update on Covid-19. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention explains what you need to know about SARS-CoV-2 variants. To contact the reporter on this story: Jason Gale in Melbourne at j.gale@bloomberg.net To contact the editors responsible for this story: Brian Bremner at bbremner@bloomberg.net Lisa Beyer, John Lauerman
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Post by Deleted on Aug 14, 2021 11:13:29 GMT -5
Just remember some on this site said its just the Flu. Only old people need to worry or those in nursing homes.
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Post by rgs318 on Aug 14, 2021 11:36:20 GMT -5
I do remember people saying the flu was more contagious than Covid 19 , but I don't recall seeing anyone saying "it was just the flu." On the other hand, I am among the "old people" so what do I know.
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