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Post by rgs318 on Jun 30, 2021 16:36:19 GMT -5
Actually, if I wanted to learn about Merrimack, which I do not, I would go to their site, not here. Yet you always seem to come here to vent. Why is that? Is it because no one seems care about Merrimack as much as HC fans care for our alma mater?
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Post by Crucis#1 on Jun 30, 2021 16:54:07 GMT -5
I was really messing with you by referring to the standard collegiate six lane pool at UNH, as “ Olympic”. I am well aware of all of the athletic facilities at UNH, and most schools in the Eastern US, as well other regions throughout the US and Canada. I am also aware of the accomplishments of the teams at UNH. Looking forward to seeing the proposed venue changes for the other field sports such as soccer. At times, you are an extremely uptight and defensive fellow. With a significant chip on your shoulder. HC current athletic path is different from UNH due to a different student population. Each school has its mission. Those wins by UNH were great for their student morale......However, my morale was significantly boosted with the outcome of games on the gridiron at Fitton on September 16, 2017 (51-26) and September 7, 2019, (13-10). After the 2019 game, I had a very pleasant conversation with the former UNH Offensive Coordinator, Ryan Carty, in the garage next to Fitton. Now that his team has won a National Championship at SHSU, I hope his next move will be to a head coaching position. Relax....it is all in good fun to have this dialogue. Because of it, as an Alum, I appreciate what is available on Mt. St. James, that the overwhelming number of schools cannot come close in providing their athletes. Especially the vast majority of Big East Schools regarding on campus intercollegiate facilities. HC five year plan will provide significant and continues improvements in accordance to the required needs for 700+ student athletes. Lacrosse, Soccer and Softball will see significant upgrades. The extraordinary cost of making significant changes to the Hart Rink, will be weight vs the overall benefit and scale of the upgrade. A significant benefactor will help the cause. In the meantime, HC will commit in excess of a half a billion dollars in upgrading residential housing, which will benefit the entire community. While certain schools have a crown gem as the center piece for their athletic program, looking at Xavier University in Cincinnati with the Cintas Center, which is a beautiful on campus Arena, top to bottom, they do not have an extensive array of outstanding facilities for their other programs. For example, baseball, swimming, soccer, etc. They do not have an on campus track, etc to support their teams. Nether the less, .... look and compare..... www.holycross.edu/athletics/facilitiesHC for a small, private, 3,000 student population, has a comprehensive on campus athletic plant better than over a very high percentage of D1 institutions. HC has a strong athletic tradition and a significant history.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jun 30, 2021 16:54:10 GMT -5
Actually, if I wanted to learn about Merrimack, which I do not, I would go to their site, not here. Yet you always seem to come here to vent. Why is that? Is it because no one seems care about Merrimack as much as HC fans care for our alma mater? I am not the one spewing lies that Holy Cross was the ONLY school to have certain sports in the country. I just corrected the record.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jun 30, 2021 16:55:53 GMT -5
I was really messing with you by referring to the standard collegiate six lane pool at UNH, as “Olympic”. I am well aware of all of the athletic facilities at UNH, and most schools in the Eastern US, as well other regions throughout the US and Canada. I am also aware of the accomplishments of the teams at UNH. Looking forward to seeing the proposed venue changes for the other field sports such as soccer. UNH Men's Soccer WANTS to play in the football stadium. That is the decision the coach made since they actually draw a crowd and make the NCAA Tournament consistently.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Jun 30, 2021 16:58:30 GMT -5
Football fields with tracks around them wreak of small time. Well, when you have Olympic athletes at your school, you need a big time track facility. You can talk, when you build the next Hayward Field...... Otherwise...... hayward.uoregon.edu/abouthayward.uoregon.eduIf it walks like a Duck.... If it quacks like a Duck.... if not you have a Playtapus 🤣🤣🤣
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Post by Crucis#1 on Jun 30, 2021 17:13:43 GMT -5
I was really messing with you by referring to the standard collegiate six lane pool at UNH, as “Olympic”. I am well aware of all of the athletic facilities at UNH, and most schools in the Eastern US, as well other regions throughout the US and Canada. I am also aware of the accomplishments of the teams at UNH. Looking forward to seeing the proposed venue changes for the other field sports such as soccer. UNH Men's Soccer WANTS to play in the football stadium. That is the decision the coach made since they actually draw a crowd and make the NCAA Tournament consistently. UNH had a very good Soccer team in 2019. Saw where several home games had a listed attendance of over 2,000 (BU and Stony Brook). Hartford game had over 1800. Glad they are a successful program at the University. Great for student morale. UNH should support their efforts by carrying though and building a dedicated Soccer only venue, with a grass pitch, to match FIFA World Cup standards. If Creighton can build Morrison Stadium, seating 7,500, which is an excellent venue, why not UNH. Come on Foley! Give it up!..... let the moths escape from your wallet and provide the initial grant money to get the project started. Hope you know I am messing with you.....😁 Man, you got to stop being so up tight, at your age you are going to have a coronary.
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Post by rgs318 on Jun 30, 2021 17:43:07 GMT -5
Actually, if I wanted to learn about Merrimack, which I do not, I would go to their site, not here. Yet you always seem to come here to vent. Why is that? Is it because no one seems care about Merrimack as much as HC fans care for our alma mater? I am not the one spewing lies that Holy Cross was the ONLY school to have certain sports in the country. I just corrected the record. 1. It was never said by anyone (other than you) ttat Holy Cross was the ONLY school to have all of tahoe sports. It was said tthe only "non-Ivy" school, buts perhaps you were not reading carefully. 2. To call something a "lie" is quite a leap. For that to be accurate, the person you say lied would have. had to know that what he/she was saying was not true, but said it anyway. How could you possibly know that. The statement may well have been wrong but most likely was NOT a lie. Hard to "correct" the record if what you are claiming ("a lie in this case) is not correct. 3. You still have not explained why it is so important to post your "corrections" and negative comments here. Why not take it to Merrimack? Is defending <errimack a personal "Crusade" on your part? Be well.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jun 30, 2021 23:13:31 GMT -5
UNH Men's Soccer WANTS to play in the football stadium. That is the decision the coach made since they actually draw a crowd and make the NCAA Tournament consistently. UNH had a very good Soccer team in 2019. Saw where several home games had a listed attendance of over 2,000 (BU and Stony Brook). Hartford game had over 1800. Glad they are a successful program at the University. Great for student morale. UNH should support their efforts by carrying though and building a dedicated Soccer only venue, with a grass pitch, to match FIFA World Cup standards. If Creighton can build Morrison Stadium, seating 7,500, which is an excellent venue, why not UNH. Come on Foley! Give it up!..... let the moths escape from your wallet and provide the initial grant money to get the project started. Hope you know I am messing with you.....😁 Man, you got to stop being so up tight, at your age you are going to have a coronary. Did you miss the 2021 spring season??? They went 8-1-1 with that loss coming in the NCAA Tourney. UNH decided to not bid on hosting the regional due to COVID as they were ranked 11th in the nation heading into that game. In the America East championship game, they only allowed in UNH students and got 278 (Parents were watching from the parking lot as I was working the game). I don't think there has been 278 students in the Hart Center in ten years. The real number of 1578 of the 2019 NCAA game against FDU is really good since it was a cold night up there on Thursday November 21st at 6pm at night at 38 degrees and rainy. I have actually worked a majority of the big soccer matches up at UNH the last 3-4 years.... UNH already has built a practice field/lax facility..It is a turf facility unhwildcats.com/sports/2019/12/10/tucker-field.aspx?id=790
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Post by Crucis#1 on Jul 1, 2021 7:01:32 GMT -5
I saw the highlights against Kentucky in the NCAA tournament. Thought UNH should have been given a Penalty shot on the takedown.
Have the design for Tucker field been completed? What is planned capacity? What are the plans for building? Any stated date to to complete funding and begin construction?
Since it is a shared facility with Women’s Lacrosse, I understand why the pitch will not be natural grass in accordance to FIFA current World Cup requirements.
When Tucker is completed, will the Men’s team move from the Continental Lacrosse Conference (MCLA) to America East? With the University of Hartford moving to D3, there will be a spot in AE or will equity issues at UNH make it difficult?
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Jul 1, 2021 8:40:32 GMT -5
Should change the title of this section of the forum to Other School's Sports.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Jul 1, 2021 9:10:15 GMT -5
Great suggestion....In Crossports fashion, we have gone off the rails again. Keeping that in mind.... St. Joe’s - Philly just announced plans to upgrade their athletic facilities. Appears the plan are to provide comparable basketball facilities to compete with Villanova. Since St. Joe’s does not have Football, or Ice Hockey, they are going all in for Basketball. It is needed to be able to be competitive in the A10. Now Fordham has to step it up regarding their facilities for A10 competition. sjuhawks.com/news/2021/6/29/20m-gift-launches-campaign-for-reimagined-athletics-complex.aspx
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 5, 2021 0:56:56 GMT -5
I saw the highlights against Kentucky in the NCAA tournament. Thought UNH should have been given a Penalty shot on the takedown. Have the design for Tucker field been completed? What is planned capacity? What are the plans for building? Any stated date to to complete funding and begin construction? Since it is a shared facility with Women’s Lacrosse, I understand why the pitch will not be natural grass in accordance to FIFA current World Cup requirements. When Tucker is completed, will the Men’s team move from the Continental Lacrosse Conference (MCLA) to America East? With the University of Hartford moving to D3, there will be a spot in AE or will equity issues at UNH make it difficult? The field is done...it has been done since the spring of 2020. They are fundraising for seating but again, it isn't a priority since they have a football stadium which can be used by the two soccer teams for games, tons of practice fields for all the outdoor teams, and not have a single issue.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jul 19, 2021 19:25:55 GMT -5
As our favorite Minuteman pointed out, HC is NOT the only non-Ivy League school to sponsor FCS football, M/W Hockey, M/W Soccer, M/W Lacrosse, Baseball & Softball -- we are in the company of Merrimack and SHU. However, we are the only PL school that does -- including the service academies. This does make a difference as far as stretching a budget thin while also trying to sponsor almost every possible DI sport outside of rugby and sailing.
If cutting a few Olympic sports would allow us to become substantially more competitive in the major sports and remain Title IX compliant, I'd be for it. But my understanding is we spend so little on these sports (beyond the NCAA stipend) that it wouldn't make that much of a difference. So why not let the students who are dedicated to these sports continue to play? Losing to Coast Guard in Men's Tennis or Springfield in Swimming does absolutely nothing to negatively affect my life.
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 19, 2021 20:20:16 GMT -5
When you factor in the high quality students (and another sixty years as alums) you attract by offering these sports and the corresponding hullabaloo that would be raised if you eliminated them, it makes sense to keep the ones we have and keep working hard to succeed.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 19, 2021 23:46:57 GMT -5
As our favorite Minuteman pointed out, HC is NOT the only non-Ivy League school to sponsor FCS football, M/W Hockey, M/W Soccer, M/W Lacrosse, Baseball & Softball -- we are in the company of Merrimack and SHU. However, we are the only PL school that does -- including the service academies. This does make a difference as far as stretching a budget thin while also trying to sponsor almost every possible DI sport outside of rugby and sailing. If cutting a few Olympic sports would allow us to become substantially more competitive in the major sports and remain Title IX compliant, I'd be for it. But my understanding is we spend so little on these sports (beyond the NCAA stipend) that it wouldn't make that much of a difference. So why not let the students who are dedicated to these sports continue to play? Losing to Coast Guard in Men's Tennis or Springfield in Swimming does absolutely nothing to negatively affect my life. Well, Coast Guard is pretty good at Tennis as they always lose to Babson in the conference finals it seems. I think I have covered that match 3 straight championships!
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Post by purplehaze on Jul 20, 2021 7:55:43 GMT -5
I don’t want to belabor this point but my basic concern is based on how we compete against other PL schools who also don’t give athletic aid to various Olympic sports - Look it up and go to the ‘archives’ if we’ve dared to update them. No excuse to be so poor and get shut out in every match (tennis) or finish last by wide margin every year (W golf) - Many other less stark examples all over the place
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 20, 2021 8:42:45 GMT -5
Well, for starters HC was not last in the President's Cup standings. Also, if we can't belabor a point here on Crossports where can we?
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Post by Tom on Jul 20, 2021 8:53:03 GMT -5
Losing to Coast Guard in Men's Tennis or Springfield in Swimming does absolutely nothing to negatively affect my life. For what it's worth, I think Springfield is on the swim schedule because their coach is the brother of forever coaching tandem Parenteau's first (and maybe only) All-American. I have no clue why we play Coast Guard in tennis
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 20, 2021 21:34:10 GMT -5
I don’t want to belabor this point but my basic concern is based on how we compete against other PL schools who also don’t give athletic aid to various Olympic sports - Look it up and go to the ‘archives’ if we’ve dared to update them. No excuse to be so poor and get shut out in every match (tennis) or finish last by wide margin every year (W golf) - Many other less stark examples all over the place Agree that the consistency of futility has been simply amazing over the years. If admissions has been part of the problem we should see an uptrend in the next few years.
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Post by sader1970 on Jul 21, 2021 6:40:00 GMT -5
Except I’ve never heard Admissions has been an issue with the Olympic or “non-revenue” or “minor sports” at HC.
The major complaint seems always to have been football and basketball being held back by Ann.
I believe lack of scholarships might be an issue for the non-revenue sports which Marcus is trying to work on. So any uptick in success may be more that than Ann’s retirement.
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 21, 2021 7:19:33 GMT -5
Well, my son was a good swimmer who was not accepted into HC even though he had the support of the swim coach and a lot of strong points in other areas. Instead off HC, he went to Fairfield where he set several school swimming records and had an outstanding academic record as well. It is an issue in olympic sports admissions t times, but perhaps nit as common as in the "major" sports.
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Post by sader1970 on Jul 21, 2021 7:31:23 GMT -5
As you know, I also had a son not get accepted to HC despite having better SAT scores than his older brother who was accepted and like your son, did well academically at Fairfield. Older son did well at HC too. The difference in high school was older son had better grades. Little doubt younger son could have made it at HC, after all his father did, and both sons smarter than their father.
Neither were there for the Athletics.
So, not sure how much this had a lot to do with athletics.
Side note: Looking back, aren’t you glad your son went to Fairfield?
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 21, 2021 7:33:43 GMT -5
Swell, he did meet his future wife there and both swede god students. However, Fairfield was a mixed blessing. I am glad they were there for him.
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Post by newfieguy74 on Jul 21, 2021 8:56:33 GMT -5
College is all about fit. I have four children and none went to HC (had they been interested I don't believe they all would have been admitted). They all had different college journeys, some linear, some with a few twists and turns. But they all have at least one graduate degree and are gainfully employed.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jul 21, 2021 15:31:04 GMT -5
Except I’ve never heard Admissions has been an issue with the Olympic or “non-revenue” or “minor sports” at HC. The major complaint seems always to have been football and basketball being held back by Ann. I believe lack of scholarships might be an issue for the non-revenue sports which Marcus is trying to work on. So any uptick in success may be more that than Ann’s retirement. ADMB has posited that HC will not be competitive in most of the Olympic sports until it increases the number of merit scollies in these sports, and he is working to do that. If you exclude hoops, ice hockey, and football, HC is in the bottom half of the PL when it comes to merit scollies for most PL / ECAC sports, and ADMB is convinced this situation is an ingredient for middling performance.
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