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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jul 25, 2021 14:13:30 GMT -5
Is there a good, well-formatted site where one can search for results? Also frustrated -tried to find who was on the USA Mens 3 X 3 team (do we have a men's entry?) but the ESPN site lists only the women
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Post by hchoops on Jul 25, 2021 14:17:07 GMT -5
The US 3 on 3 team did not qualify
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 25, 2021 14:21:12 GMT -5
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jul 25, 2021 15:25:18 GMT -5
thank you
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 25, 2021 17:31:55 GMT -5
It ranks up there for poor sportsmanship with the UCLA refusal to play for 3rd in the NCAA (as was done then) after losing in the semis. That never happened. After losing a double OT game to NC State (David Thompson) in the 1974 semis, Walton and his teammates did not want to play the consolation game. but they were told by Wooden that was not an option. They played the game with little effort but still beat Kansas easily. Over the years, UCLA was also in a few other third place games, which they always played. Thanks for the correction. I am glad their coach had more sportsmanship than the players on that team.
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Post by timholycross on Jul 25, 2021 17:52:10 GMT -5
I'd not have taken the medal either, the number of rules violated/ignored on those 3 chances the Russkies got were off the charts. And the most egregious ones were not bad judgement, which I'd come down on the US for if that were the case.
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 25, 2021 17:58:25 GMT -5
I have always thought the Olympic officials and refs simply cheated in order to end the U.S. domintion of Olympic basketball (for the most part with teams composed of true amateurs against European professionals, like the USSR team who were all in the army and were paid simply to play basketball).
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Post by timholycross on Jul 25, 2021 18:06:44 GMT -5
Trivia Question- what futuristic movie's action scenes were filmed in the same Munich arena that the US/USSR game was played in?
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 25, 2021 18:44:29 GMT -5
Was that where they filmed the original movie Rollerball? The one with James Caan in the late 70s, IIRC.
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Post by bison137 on Jul 25, 2021 20:29:18 GMT -5
That never happened. After losing a double OT game to NC State (David Thompson) in the 1974 semis, Walton and his teammates did not want to play the consolation game. but they were told by Wooden that was not an option. They played the game with little effort but still beat Kansas easily. Over the years, UCLA was also in a few other third place games, which they always played. Thanks for the correction. I am glad their coach had more sportsmanship than the players on that team. Having said that, there were hundreds of players, at least, who had no interest at all in playing a consolation game. That's why they finally got rid of it. For many years, there were even consolation games at the Regionals.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 25, 2021 20:34:16 GMT -5
The Women's Field Hockey team did not qualify either for the Olympics. The men have not qualified since 1956 in Melbourne. They have only participated in the USA hosted Olympics since because of the autobid.
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Post by timholycross on Jul 25, 2021 21:27:33 GMT -5
Was that where they filmed the original movie Rollerball? The one with James Caan in the late 70s, IIRC. You got it, sir.
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Post by timholycross on Jul 25, 2021 21:34:08 GMT -5
Thanks for the correction. I am glad their coach had more sportsmanship than the players on that team. Having said that, there were hundreds of players, at least, who had no interest at all in playing a consolation game. That's why they finally got rid of it. For many years, there were even consolation games at the Regionals. The first 2 or 3 years of the ECAC tournament, they had a consolation game. Took them that long to discover the NCAA didn't allow them in conference tournaments (which those tournaments, in effect, were). HC was in one of those, vs Umass.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jul 25, 2021 23:47:31 GMT -5
The Women's Field Hockey team did not qualify either for the Olympics. The men have not qualified since 1956 in Melbourne. They have only participated in the USA hosted Olympics since because of the autobid. How many men in the USA even play field hockey? How would we even select a national team? Perhaps we will do better here on out with increased immigration from India, but I don't know that I've ever seen any men ever playing the game nor have I read about any games in the paper. Maybe it's a California thing?
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 26, 2021 6:05:19 GMT -5
Thanks for the correction. I am glad their coach had more sportsmanship than the players on that team. Having said that, there were hundreds of players, at least, who had no interest at all in playing a consolation game. That's why they finally got rid of it. For many years, there were even consolation games at the Regionals. And there were many who wanted to win third place nationally very much. IIRC, the reason they finally dropped the consolation game was the very negative publicity over the UCLA players wanting to skip the game and to go home. Also, knowing the state of college athletics and the media even back then, they probably did not make enough money on it to make it worth the trouble.
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 26, 2021 6:14:05 GMT -5
How many men in the USA even play field hockey? How would we even select a national team? Perhaps we will do better here on out with increased immigration from India, but I don't know that I've ever seen any men ever playing the game nor have I read about any games in the paper. Maybe it's a California thing? Good question. Irish hurling is pretty close to men's field hockey and a transition is not that hard. If you want to spend an interesting day, check out Gaelic Park in NYC (next to the Manhattan campus and near to VanCortland Park.) It is a gathering place for the Irish-American Community and hurling is still very popular there.
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Jul 26, 2021 6:30:11 GMT -5
Unreal that USA could lose a basketball game to a foreign team France has a tough team with many NBA players. Bball is big in many countries now.
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Post by hcpride on Jul 26, 2021 8:53:13 GMT -5
Unreal that USA could lose a basketball game to a foreign team France has a tough team with many NBA players. Bball is big in many countries now. NBA Players in the France Olympic Basketball team Rudy Gobert - Utah Jazz Nicolas Batum - LA Clippers Evan Fournier - Boston Celtics Frank Ntilikina - New York Knicks Timothé Luwawu-Cabarrot - Brooklyn Nets Nando de Colo (former) Guerschon Yabusele (former) Vincent Poirier (former) Nigeria has the second most NBA players (after the US, of course) with 8 current and two former.
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Post by bison137 on Jul 26, 2021 10:10:04 GMT -5
Having said that, there were hundreds of players, at least, who had no interest at all in playing a consolation game. That's why they finally got rid of it. For many years, there were even consolation games at the Regionals. And there were many who wanted to win third place nationally very much. IIRC, the reason they finally dropped the consolation game was the very negative publicity over the UCLA players wanting to skip the game and to go home. Also, knowing the state of college athletics and the media even back then, they probably did not make enough money on it to make it worth the trouble. They didn’t drop the game for seven more years after UCLA was reluctant to play in it. There were many many more publicized cases of players saying they had no interest in playing in it before they finally got rid of it.
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Post by timholycross on Jul 26, 2021 10:10:50 GMT -5
Am actually glad winning (or, perhaps, in the end, losing) at the Olympics is not that easy for a pro team thrown together at the last minute for the most part (including guys getting out of planes on game day). Gives me greater respect for the sport.
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Post by Ignutz on Jul 26, 2021 10:21:51 GMT -5
For as long as I can remember, I've devoured Olympic broadcasts - probably dating back to 1968 or so.
This year, however, I have zero interest in watching. As long as the US prima-donnas (especially women's soccer and men's basketball) continue to act like anyone anywhere gives a rat's patoot about their feelings on political and other matters, I'm out.
Frankly, I hope those two teams, in particular, don't get a sniff of the medal stand. Unfortunately, we'd then have to hear all the excuses as to why they were denied fair opportunities, etc. - starting, of course, with the impact of white privilege on their (entitled) lives.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 26, 2021 18:48:31 GMT -5
The Women's Field Hockey team did not qualify either for the Olympics. The men have not qualified since 1956 in Melbourne. They have only participated in the USA hosted Olympics since because of the autobid. How many men in the USA even play field hockey? How would we even select a national team? Perhaps we will do better here on out with increased immigration from India, but I don't know that I've ever seen any men ever playing the game nor have I read about any games in the paper. Maybe it's a California thing? Well, there is a Men's National Team. They finished 3rd in the Pan-Am Games in 2019. www.teamusa.org/usa-field-hockey/usmnt/us-mens-national-teamMen's field hockey is a big deal in Netherlands, Germany, and Belgium with professional leagues. The USA lacks the development program as it is seen as a girls sport here. Some highlights from a men's game this olympics
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 26, 2021 18:52:25 GMT -5
France has a tough team with many NBA players. Bball is big in many countries now. NBA Players in the France Olympic Basketball team Rudy Gobert - Utah Jazz Nicolas Batum - LA Clippers Evan Fournier - Boston Celtics Frank Ntilikina - New York Knicks Timothé Luwawu-Cabarrot - Brooklyn Nets Nando de Colo (former) Guerschon Yabusele (former) Vincent Poirier (former) Nigeria has the second most NBA players (after the US, of course) with 8 current and two former. Look at a guy like Campazzo who played for Real Madrid from 2014-2020. He came to the NBA in 2020-2021 and immediately appeared in 65 games with 19 starts for the Nuggets playing 22 minutes a night.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jul 26, 2021 19:12:41 GMT -5
For as long as I can remember, I've devoured Olympic broadcasts - probably dating back to 1968 or so. This year, however, I have zero interest in watching. As long as the US prima-donnas (especially women's soccer and men's basketball) continue to act like anyone anywhere gives a rat's patoot about their feelings on political and other matters, I'm out. Frankly, I hope those two teams, in particular, don't get a sniff of the medal stand. Unfortunately, we'd then have to hear all the excuses as to why they were denied fair opportunities, etc. - starting, of course, with the impact of white privilege on their (entitled) lives. I don't think I could ever root against my country, even if I had major political differences with the athletes. I may differ from Rapinoe and LeBron on my beliefs but I still want them to succeed when repping the Red, White and Blue. If I'm going to own patriotism, I'm going to own it all the time. And I do think it's sad that more people don't fully comprehend just how great the US is at providing women equal opportunity in sports and give credit where it's due (in addition to men & women of all ethnic backgrounds). A lot of this equal opportunity is seen at the collegiate level (at least pre-NIL). If Brazil had the same college athletic structure (including the equivalent of Title IX) as the United States, they would probably destroy us in women's soccer, as would most of the Euro countries. The Dominican Republic is an interesting contrarian example to this. Baseball is a rite of passage for just about every male with a spec of athletic ability. In NYC, Dominican men are a large part of the rec softball circuit. But you never see Dominican women playing in any of the co-ed leagues. You'll see them drinking Corona behind the backstop cheering for the men. It's just a very different culture when it comes to defined gender roles. You never really hear about the DR or other Latin countries being a significant Olympic/international competitor in softball -- US challengers always seem to be Australia, Japan and Canada.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 26, 2021 19:19:40 GMT -5
For as long as I can remember, I've devoured Olympic broadcasts - probably dating back to 1968 or so. This year, however, I have zero interest in watching. As long as the US prima-donnas (especially women's soccer and men's basketball) continue to act like anyone anywhere gives a rat's patoot about their feelings on political and other matters, I'm out. Frankly, I hope those two teams, in particular, don't get a sniff of the medal stand. Unfortunately, we'd then have to hear all the excuses as to why they were denied fair opportunities, etc. - starting, of course, with the impact of white privilege on their (entitled) lives. I don't think I could ever root against my country, even if I had major political differences with the athletes. I may differ from Rapinoe and LeBron on my beliefs but I still want them to succeed when repping the Red, White and Blue. If I'm going to own patriotism, I'm going to own it all the time. And I do think it's sad that more people don't fully comprehend just how great the US is at providing women equal opportunity in sports and give credit where it's due (in addition to men & women of all ethnic backgrounds). A lot of this equal opportunity is seen at the collegiate level (at least pre-NIL). If Brazil had the same college athletic structure (including the equivalent of Title IX) as the United States, they would probably destroy us in women's soccer, as would most of the Euro countries. The Dominican Republic is an interesting contrarian example to this. Baseball is a rite of passage for just about every male with a spec of athletic ability. In NYC, Dominican men are a large part of the rec softball circuit. But you never see Dominican women playing in any of the co-ed leagues. You'll see them drinking Corona behind the backstop cheering for the men. It's just a very different culture when it comes to defined gender roles. You never really hear about the DR or other Latin countries being a significant Olympic/international competitor in softball -- US challengers always seem to be Australia, Japan and Canada. LeBron isn't even playing in these Olympics! There are a ton of American college athletes/alums that are competing for other countries due to the fact of Title IX gives women an opportunity to play here. This is the reason the USA Women's Soccer team has been more successful than the men. Opportunity gave the USA a head start in the women's game.
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