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Post by hchoops on Sept 20, 2021 12:20:07 GMT -5
His name is Dobbs
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Post by sader1970 on Sept 20, 2021 12:21:39 GMT -5
Midwest, indeed the 2008 game:
Time management may or may not have been an issue with Tom Gilmore but this wasn't one of them. This was a use of timeouts. Since I assume you are a 2005 grad, you must have been in the stands rather than on the field. Attendance at Fitton: 12,871.
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Post by sader1970 on Sept 20, 2021 12:24:43 GMT -5
hoops, ease up on your classmate, he's trying out to be a writer in the Holy Cross Athletic Department.
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Post by kaftan12 on Sept 20, 2021 12:31:59 GMT -5
Gotta love the recognition for the players that is great to see. PL had a pretty rough week but exciting that HC pulled out a W! Looks like another challenging week for the PL but look for HC to shine again. Good news!
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Post by midwestsader05 on Sept 20, 2021 12:33:13 GMT -5
Sader1970, I’ll be a bit more specific. Coach TG’s late game strategery (channeling Will Ferrell’s Dubya impersonation). Let us not forget the 2014 opening game debacle at Albany. Former teammates at that game said they'd never seen anything like it in a lifetime of watching and playing football.
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Post by thecrossisback on Sept 20, 2021 12:36:18 GMT -5
Midwest, indeed the 2008 game: Time management may or may not have been an issue with Tom Gilmore but this wasn't one of them. This was a use of timeouts. Since I assume you are a 2005 grad, you must have been in the stands rather than on the field. Attendance at Fitton: 12,871. You can see this game on Youtube
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Sept 20, 2021 12:42:43 GMT -5
Sader1970, I’ll be a bit more specific. Coach TG’s late game strategery (channeling Will Ferrell’s Dubya impersonation). Let us not forget the 2014 opening game debacle at Albany. Former teammates at that game said they'd never seen anything like it in a lifetime of watching and playing football. That was just a horrendous case of "grabbing defeat from the jaws of victory"--almost impossible to believe.
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Post by lou on Sept 20, 2021 12:45:48 GMT -5
Sader1970, I’ll be a bit more specific. Coach TG’s late game strategery (channeling Will Ferrell’s Dubya impersonation). Let us not forget the 2014 opening game debacle at Albany. Former teammates at that game said they'd never seen anything like it in a lifetime of watching and playing football. Thanks for the reminder...I was at Albany also.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Sept 20, 2021 12:53:29 GMT -5
It's worth mentioning in that Albany game that we could not have run the clock out by kneeling. We would have either have had to kicked a field goal (that would have been dumb) or gone for it on 4th down.
Do you give the ball back to Albany with enough time to run one or two plays, or try to clinch the game by getting one more first down / burn more clock by running a play rather than kneeling on it.
it did seem like we invented some new ways to lose games under FHCTG though.
Who remembers Wagner in 2012?
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 20, 2021 12:58:36 GMT -5
How much difference would that time have made in the actual game if te first pass was intercepted, as it was? The move was a poor one in theory (by someone that at least one poster said was a better coach than Chesney), but in the actual game may not have made that much of a difference. Maybe Yale doesn’t have to call a play like that if they were operating with another 35 seconds. Could have gotten a few chunk plays in before needing to get really aggressive. If you are from NE and have watched Belichick manage time, distance and situation for a couple of decades, it is surprising how loose coaches at all levels can be with these decisions.
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Post by sader1970 on Sept 20, 2021 13:03:53 GMT -5
Putting a positive spin on that UMass game - 2 outstanding Massachusetts QBs facing each other: Liam Coen and Dom Randolph. Kind of like Brady vs. Manning.
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Post by mm67 on Sept 20, 2021 13:17:24 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 20, 2021 13:20:14 GMT -5
Putting a positive spin on that UMass game - 2 outstanding Massachusetts QBs facing each other: Liam Coen and Dom Randolph. Kind of like Brady vs. Manning. Was that the night game at Fitton where the UMass band played on after the game? That was a treat. I see the benefit for UMass playing HC at the DCU for BB and hockey, at Polar for baseball and at Fitton or Polar for FB if Polar can build up capacity with temporary stands. It's halfway between their student and WMass fans and their EMass alumni. It's not great when it is as much a home game for the visiting team, but the more fannies in seats and buzz in the air the better for both schools.
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Post by timholycross on Sept 20, 2021 13:25:41 GMT -5
Albany Game:
1st & 10 at HC 42 (4:34 - 4th) Peter Pujals pass complete to Kalif Raymond for 8 yds to the 50 yard line
2nd & 2 at 50 (4:34 - 4th) Gabe Guild run for 1 yd to the Alban 49
3rd & 1 at ALB 49 (4:34 - 4th) Gabe Guild run for 9 yds to the Alban 40 for a 1ST down
1st & 10 at ALB 40 (4:34 - 4th) Peter Pujals run for 2 yds to the Alban 38
(2:23 - 4th) Timeout ALBANY, clock 02:23
2nd & 8 at ALB 38 (2:23 - 4th) Gabe Guild run for 3 yds to the Alban 35
(2:17 - 4th) Timeout ALBANY, clock 02:17
3rd & 5 at ALB 35 (2:17 - 4th) Peter Pujals pass complete to Jake Wieczorek for 11 yds to the Alban 24 for a 1ST down
1st & 10 at ALB 24 (2:17 - 4th) Peter Pujals run for 3 yds to the Alban 21
(1:41 - 4th) Timeout ALBANY, clock 01:41
2nd & 7 at ALB 21 (1:41 - 4th) Peter Pujals run for no gain to the Alban 21
3rd & 7 at ALB 21 (0:44 - 4th) Neil Morrison 79 Yd Fumble Return (Patrick Toole Kick)
----- Hard to figure out when the play actually ran, as it says 1:41 after a time out, then :44 when the guy scored.
Let's go back to second and 7 w/1:41 left. If you take 5 seconds to run the play and 39 seconds afterwards, that's 44 seconds for second down; take another 44 seconds for third down; then 4th down another 5 seconds. That's 93 seconds; or 1:39. Albany has 5 seconds left to do something.
But I will say Gilmore was more or less trying to do that. Only he handed the ball off, the guy got popped in the head (no call!), knocked cold and the rest is history. One could say Pujals could have coughed it up as well. OTOH, he could have taken 10 yard losses running backward and side-to-side and killed the clock on 2nd, 3rd and 4th downs. Entirely doable.
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Post by HC92 on Sept 20, 2021 16:43:27 GMT -5
Please make the bad man stop! Why are you people making me re-live these games?!?!?!
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Post by hchoops on Sept 20, 2021 17:10:42 GMT -5
Do not read !
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Post by rgs318 on Sept 20, 2021 19:38:31 GMT -5
After all, reading may be hazardous to your mental health.
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Post by rgs318 on Sept 21, 2021 2:44:30 GMT -5
On a happier note, this game story is from the Yale website
Holy Cross rallies, outlasts Yale, 20-17, on Derek Ng's last-minute field goal Crusaders, who trailed, 14-0, in the second quarter, got two rushing TDs from Matthew Sluka and another clutch field goal from their kicker
The key play of the game Saturday came with 3:08 to play, and Holy Cross called a timeout on a fourth-and-2 from the Holy Cross rallies, outlasts Yale, 20-17, on Derek Ng's last-minute field goal Crusaders, who trailed, 14-0, in the second quarter, got two rushing TDs from Matthew Sluka and another clutch field goal from their kicker
The key play of the game Saturday came with 3:08 to play, and Holy Cross called a timeout on a fourth-and-2 from the Yale 40-yard line. The Bulldogs then called their own TO, so this play had to be huge.
HC quarterback Matthew Sluka called his own number for a 5-yard gain, and the drive continued. Four plays later, Derek Ng kicked a 47-yard field goal with 48 seconds left to give the Crusaders a 20-17 football victory, capping their charge from a 14-0 deficit.
Derek Ng kicked a 47-yard field goal in the final minute Saturday to lift Holy Cross past Yale. Waite Reynolds intercepted Griffin O'Connor's pass on the Bulldogs' first offensive play afterward, securing the victory for Holy Cross at the Yale Bowl in New Haven, Connecticut
Yale, coached by Oxford native Tony Reno, was playing its first game since the 2019 season, as Ivy League football was shut down by the pandemic until this fall. Holy Cross rebounded from its 35-21 loss to Merrimack in its home opener and improved to 2-
HC also won for the second time this season in the state of Connecticut, having prevailed at UConn to open the season.
The Crusaders travel to West Long Branch, New Jersey, to take on Monmouth, the team that defeated HC in the first round of the 2019 NCAA FCS playoffs. Game time is 1 p.m. Saturday.
Holy Cross took its first lead with 4:38 left in the third quarter. Sluka's 1-yard keeper, his second TD of the day, capped a four-play, 65-yard drive that followed Yale's Jack Bosman missing a 52-yard field goal attempt. Derek Ng's point-after kick gave HC a 17-14 lead.
Yale pulled even in the first minute of the fourth quarter, when Bosman connected for a 47-yard field goal, the play after Jacob Dobbs sacked O'Connor for an 8-yard loss.
HC didn't complete a pass during the scoreless first quarter but had the best scoring opportunity. Adam Raine's 35-yard punt to the Yale 42 left Holy Cross in fine field position midway through the period. HC's Patrick Haughney had punted to Yale's 5, and the Bulldogs went three-and-out.
The Crusaders kept the ball on the ground, advancing to the 19, with Sluka (19 carries, 85 yards; 7-of-13 passing, 80 yards) keeping four times for 23 yards, but Ng's 37-yard field goal attempt went wide right.
Peter Oliver (12 carries, 57 yards) netted 29 yards on three carries in the first, and Dobbs was in on four tackles, including one for a 3-yard loss.
Yale went ahead, 7-0, after Griffin O'Connor's 19-yard scoring pass to Jackson Hawes with 12:28 left in the half. Penalties hurt HC on that drive, with a personal foul on John Smith putting the ball in Crusader territory, and a Terrence Spence pass interference on third-and-3 moving the ball 15 yards to the HC 19.
After a Holy Cross three-and-out, O'Connor struck again on Yale's next offensive play, with a 74-yard strike to former Tantasqua Regional standout JJ Howland (3 catches, 102 yards), and Bosman's PAT with 10:18 left in the second made it 14-0 Bulldogs.
The Crusaders drove deep into Yale's red zone, but a holding call nullified a Sluka run to the Bulldog 5. After an incomplete pass, Ng connected from 44 yards to make it a 14-3 game with 6:47 left in the half.
Holy Cross didn't pass for yardage until late in the second quarter, when Sluka completed three straight for 41 yards, to Tenio Ayeni, Ayir Asante and Sean Morris.
Sluka then connected with Tyler Purdy for 22 yards, and a Yale penalty tacked on another 8 to the Yale 6. With 28 seconds left in the half, Sluka carried it over from there, Ng added the PAT, and the Crusaders were within 14-10 at halftime.
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Post by HC92 on Sept 21, 2021 5:41:27 GMT -5
Wow. That is one terrible piece of writing. I’ve got $5 that says it was written by the camera guy.
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Post by sader1970 on Sept 21, 2021 6:50:44 GMT -5
Au contraire. Aside from what appears to be editorial miscues (i.e. repeating sentences and guessing some are captions of pictures not copied), I find this to be a extremely objective report with little expected Yale bias.
That said, totally agree that the whole videocast on Saturday should be an embarrassment to ESPN and Yale. The worst camera work and worst announcing that I can recall ever. The only positive was the streaming quality was very good.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Sept 21, 2021 6:54:10 GMT -5
Looks like this game article is from the T&G and not Yale.
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Post by sader1970 on Sept 21, 2021 7:02:28 GMT -5
T&G story:
Holy Cross rallies, outlasts Yale, 20-17, on Derek Ng's last-minute field goal
Crusaders, who trailed, 14-0, in the second quarter, got two rushing TDs from Matthew Sluka and another clutch field goal from their kicker
Telegram & Gazette Staff
The key play of the game Saturday came with 3:08 to play, and Holy Cross called a timeout on a fourth-and-2 from the Yale 40-yard line. The Bulldogs then called their own TO, so this play had to be huge.
HC quarterback Matthew Sluka called his own number for a 5-yard gain, and the drive continued. Four plays later, Derek Ng kicked a 47-yard field goal with 48 seconds left to give the Crusaders a 20-17 football victory, capping their charge from a 14-0 deficit.
Derek Ng kicked a 47-yard field goal in the final minute Saturday to lift Holy Cross past Yale.
Waite Reynolds intercepted Griffin O'Connor's pass on the Bulldogs' first offensive play afterward, securing the victory for Holy Cross at the Yale Bowl in New Haven, Connecticut
Yale, coached by Oxford native Tony Reno, was playing its first game since the 2019 season, as Ivy League football was shut down by the pandemic until this fall. Holy Cross rebounded from its 35-21 loss to Merrimack in its home opener and improved to 2-1.
HC also won for the second time this season in the state of Connecticut, having prevailed at UConn to open the season.
The Crusaders travel to West Long Branch, New Jersey, to take on Monmouth, the team that defeated HC in the first round of the 2019 NCAA FCS playoffs. Game time is 1 p.m. Saturday.
Holy Cross took its first lead with 4:38 left in the third quarter. Sluka's 1-yard keeper, his second TD of the day, capped a four-play, 65-yard drive that followed Yale's Jack Bosman missing a 52-yard field goal attempt. Derek Ng's point-after kick gave HC a 17-14 lead.
Yale pulled even in the first minute of the fourth quarter, when Bosman connected for a 47-yard field goal, the play after Jacob Dobbs sacked O'Connor for an 8-yard loss.
HC didn't complete a pass during the scoreless first quarter but had the best scoring opportunity.
Adam Raine's 35-yard punt to the Yale 42 left Holy Cross in fine field position midway through the period. HC's Patrick Haughney had punted to Yale's 5, and the Bulldogs went three-and-out.
The Crusaders kept the ball on the ground, advancing to the 19, with Sluka (19 carries, 85 yards; 7-of-13 passing, 80 yards) keeping four times for 23 yards, but Ng's 37-yard field goal attempt went wide right.
Holy Cross quarterback Matthew Sluka (9), shown here two weeks ago against UConn, rushed for 85 yards and two touchdowns in Saturday's win over Yale
Peter Oliver (12 carries, 57 yards) netted 29 yards on three carries in the first, and Dobbs was in on four tackles, including one for a 3-yard loss.
Yale went ahead, 7-0, after Griffin O'Connor's 19-yard scoring pass to Jackson Hawes with 12:28 left in the half. Penalties hurt HC on that drive, with a personal foul on John Smith putting the ball in Crusader territory, and a Terrence Spence pass interference on third-and-3 moving the ball 15 yards to the HC 19.
After a Holy Cross three-and-out, O'Connor struck again on Yale's next offensive play, with a 74-yard strike to former Tantasqua Regional standout JJ Howland (3 catches, 102 yards), and Bosman's PAT with 10:18 left in the second made it 14-0 Bulldogs.
The Crusaders drove deep into Yale's red zone, but a holding call nullified a Sluka run to the Bulldog 5. After an incomplete pass, Ng connected from 44 yards to make it a 14-3 game with 6:47 left in the half.
Holy Cross didn't pass for yardage until late in the second quarter, when Sluka completed three straight for 41 yards, to Tenio Ayeni, Ayir Asante and Sean Morris.
Sluka then connected with Tyler Purdy for 22 yards, and a Yale penalty tacked on another 8 to the Yale 6. With 28 seconds left in the half, Sluka carried it over from there, Ng added the PAT, and the Crusaders were within 14-10 at halftime.
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Post by rgs318 on Sept 21, 2021 7:22:36 GMT -5
Looks like this game article is from the T&G and not Yale. OK, since I simply cut and pasted from the Yale site, who copied from whom?
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Post by HC92 on Sept 21, 2021 7:23:53 GMT -5
The reference to Reno as an Oxford native definitely suggests the Yalies were the copycats.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Sept 21, 2021 7:31:19 GMT -5
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