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Post by alum on Dec 6, 2021 15:54:49 GMT -5
Happily, it would appear that Delaware has found its guy so that is a bullet dodged. Chesney deserves a raise or a bonus and the ability to pay his staff more than they are currently making--especially if we believe that it is one of the lowest paid staffs in the PL. Everyone wants to earn more money, but don't we think that BC is more concerned about improving his resume and that a higher profile FCS program would be the place to do that--even if the money is only comparable?
I know that some have talked about wanting to "lock" Chesney up with a long term deal. I tend to think that Chesney is the one who is going to be opposed to that strategy.
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Post by bfoley82 on Dec 6, 2021 16:12:42 GMT -5
There is information out there that the UD job pays in the neighborhood of 400-425k per year. I highly doubt HC will pay that. It's my understanding Carty is #1, Chesney #2 and that if it were to be Bob you'd see an announcement on it over the next couple of days. It could very well be that Carty accepted it, but KC Keeler - the Sam Houston Coach asked them/Carty to not announce it due to distractions. It's also possible he's been in contact with the coaches that are currently there on how to proceed over the next 9 days to sign a class. Because that component is a significant part of the process as well. Good chance that Sam Houston makes it to the finals again so they could be playing until late Dec/early Jan. I still can't think KC Keeler and his unceremonious exit from UD, has to be factored in here. Could Carty be interviewing at UNH???
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Dec 6, 2021 16:24:48 GMT -5
Delaware press is already saying that Ryan Carty got the job.
You could call it two bullets dodged with both Delaware and (allegedly) UNH hiring from within their alumni base. UNH still expected to promote Santos.
Hard to imagine Chesney is much longer for Mt. St. James.
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Post by bfoley82 on Dec 6, 2021 16:27:09 GMT -5
Delaware press is already saying that Ryan Carty got the job. Since they can't bring back Keeler after his massive buyout they paid, the best thing they could do was take his OC.
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Post by bfoley82 on Dec 6, 2021 16:29:04 GMT -5
Delaware press is already saying that Ryan Carty got the job. You could call it two bullets dodged with both Delaware and (allegedly) UNH hiring from within their alumni base. UNH still expected to promote Santos. Hard to imagine Chesney is much longer for Mt. St. James. Being a UNH alum and someone that has seen Santos coaching when he was with Columbia, I would be very disappointed they move him up.
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Post by Chu Chu on Dec 6, 2021 16:48:33 GMT -5
I really hope we don't lose Chesney yet. If that does happen, however, there are two schools I have noticed that have really outperformed expectations - Sacred Heart and Incarnate Word. I wonder if there is a coach in one of those schools we could poach?
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Post by trimster on Dec 6, 2021 16:53:43 GMT -5
I have no idea if Chesney is looking to leave of not. My feeling is he's not long for College Hill. Maybe one more year at best. But to say that you'd be disappointed in someone who looks to further his or her career is ridiculous. Delaware is a high-level FCS job that has more visibility and more than likely pays a heck of a lot more. Also, a CAA gig comes with far fewer restrictions than the PL. I think we have enumerated those quite well in other threads.
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Post by efg72 on Dec 6, 2021 16:58:04 GMT -5
So unless there is something else in the works for Chesney today, we are looking at one or maybe two more years of Chesney as the HCHFC.
I assume we go all out to compensate the full staff fairly and at a level that puts them at the top or second in the PL
However, If you are the President or the new AD, how do you approach the next salary for Chesney? Pay him his market value and give him a 5-10 year contract or offer something less?
Interesting days ahead for sure.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Dec 6, 2021 17:01:04 GMT -5
I really hope we don't lose Chesney yet. If that does happen, however, there are two schools I have noticed that have really outperformed expectations - Sacred Heart and Incarnate Word. I wonder if there is a coach in one of those schools we could poach? Nofry has done a tremendous job at Sacred Heart. Punting with <2 min left on 4th and 8 from the HC 35yd line notwithstanding, they're clearly doing things right in Fairfield. Whether or no HC would be considered a step up for him, I'm not sure. I would guess that the Holy Cross job pays more than Sacred Heart. Eric Morris of Incarnate Word, just was announced as offensive coordinator at Washington State.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Dec 6, 2021 17:02:45 GMT -5
I have no idea if Chesney is looking to leave of not. My feeling is he's not long for College Hill. Maybe one more year at best. But to say that you'd be disappointed in someone who looks to further his or her career is ridiculous. Delaware is a high-level FCS job that has more visibility and more than likely pays a heck of a lot more. Also, a CAA gig comes with far fewer restrictions than the PL. I think we have enumerated those quite well in other threads. As much as it hurts to say, just about any CAA job would be considered a step up from Holy Cross and the Patriot League. Remember when OC Pince left for the same position at lowly URI? A guy like Chesney, without the AI and redshirting restrictions, could conceivably take the likes of Elon, Albany or Stony Brook and turn them into perennial Top 15 FCS programs. That's my opinion given his body of work at Holy Cross and Assumption.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Dec 6, 2021 17:11:17 GMT -5
Thought Pince left due to a conflict with TG.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Dec 6, 2021 17:19:31 GMT -5
Marcus Freeman new head coach at Notre Dame
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Post by bfoley82 on Dec 7, 2021 0:02:34 GMT -5
Also, a CAA gig comes with far fewer restrictions than the PL. I think we have enumerated those quite well in other threads. As much as it hurts to say, just about any CAA job would be considered a step up from Holy Cross and the Patriot League. Remember when OC Pince left for the same position at lowly URI? A guy like Chesney, without the AI and redshirting restrictions, could conceivably take the likes of Elon, Albany or Stony Brook and turn them into perennial Top 15 FCS programs. That's my opinion given his body of work at Holy Cross and Assumption. Both Albany and Stony Brook have fantastic stadiums and agree they are sleeping giants with the right coach.
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Post by hc87 on Dec 7, 2021 0:26:04 GMT -5
I could see Ches going to Delaware and its 500K job....I have a hard time seeing him going anywhere else in the CAA....really a lateral move mostly anywhere else imo.
The Albany, Stony Brook jobs are really not a step-up....many of the CAA jobs are a step-down imo in the way Chesney has transformed HC.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Dec 7, 2021 0:36:00 GMT -5
Delaware fans after seeing the HC facilities commented that they are impressive. It seems that some fans from a CAA school see the HC facilities in a favorable light. www.gohens.net/boards/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=27972&start=15Info Hound said: “If Chesney is the guy, I thought I'd take a look at where he is now. HC has 3,100 students and fine facilities for their 27 sports. goholycross.com/facilitiesThe 100 yard indoor practice facility is what we may want to expand the field house to in Phase II.” From rooney guy: “That’s impressive. Now I am wondering why Chesney would see UD as a step up.” Info Hound said: ”Certainly, without the WAC we would not compare well facilities-wise” UDan said: “ I was fortunate enough to cover on-location at HC in Worcester when it hosted Merrimack earlier this season, way back in Sept. Home venue, Fitton Field, is a real treat. Historic and big. They're not filling that, but reminds me of pre-reno Del Stadium character.”
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 7, 2021 0:56:05 GMT -5
It's a brutal windy night and you guys are holding the door open all the way. Let Coach and HC enjoy the fabulous 13 game season season and start preparing for our second FBS pelt in a row at Buffalo in September.
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Post by dharry13 on Dec 7, 2021 10:12:05 GMT -5
Santos officially named HC at UNH.
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Post by timholycross on Dec 7, 2021 10:59:12 GMT -5
bangordailynews.com/2021/12/02/sports/umaine-sports/umaine-will-significantly-increase-salary-for-new-head-football-coach-joam40zk0w/A little insight into Head Coach compensation in the CAA. As per 2020 records, Maine was the lowest at 153k (article indicates a big raise coming for new Maine HC, Rhode Island second lowest at 263k, CAA average at 400k and highest paid being Delaware at 588k. I've read the FBS C-USA is looking to add 1-2 more CAA teams by 2024/2025 and if true Delaware seems most logical to follow James Madison. (NDSU, SHSU and Jack State already going in 2023). Let's be serious, the UD job will be end up being the top FCS job on the market in 2021 and whoever fills it is taking a big step forward in their career. Correction: Liberty (not NDSU) is the 4th program going to C-USA in 2023 along with Sam Houston State, Jacksonville State and New Mexico State. The C-USA lost a total of 6 teams to the AAC so that's why some pundits say they are still looking to add a couple more. North Dakota State has not been accepted to a FBS conference to my knowledge. James Madison is moving to the Sun Belt in 2023 along with Marshall, Old Dominion and Southern Miss (also all C-USA schools) So to some up C-USA started the 2021 football season with 14 programs and as it stands today will have 9 in 2023. Logically, Delaware might be attractive to the Sun Belt having JMU, Marshall and Old Dominion not that far away; and the Sun Belt set up in two distinct geographic divisions. I don't see the attractiveness for either the school or the league given where most of the CUSA schools are.
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Post by timholycross on Dec 7, 2021 10:59:38 GMT -5
Santos officially named HC at UNH. Congratulations to the pride of Bellingham, MA!
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Post by timholycross on Dec 7, 2021 11:02:37 GMT -5
It's a brutal windy night and you guys are holding the door open all the way. Let Coach and HC enjoy the fabulous 13 game season season and start preparing for our second FBS pelt in a row at Buffalo in September. After the Pats game last night, glad that the Buffalo game is not a season ender! Nasty conditions! Case in point: when the Pats scored a touchdown in the first quarter going against the wind, they went for 2! They attempted 3 passes in the game, competing two. Lowest total since the Snow Plow game in 1982.
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Post by mm67 on Dec 7, 2021 11:29:06 GMT -5
Just a thought... Coach Chesney has built a successful winning program at HC, a high academic school.His team defeated Non-PlL FBS UConn and FCS Monmouth. They gave more athletically oriented Villanova a good run. He showed he can win at an academically elite college against less selective larger universities. Possibly his success at HC gives him a comparative advantage with academic FBS or upper level academic FCS programs. One would think that for example schools such as Duke, Wake, Rice, Tulane or possibly an Ivy, foe instance Murphy retires from Harvard. These are merely examples of the types of colleges which might be especially interested in hiring Chesney. Obviously, I am not saying these particular colleges have HC openings. Just a thought...
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Post by hcpride on Dec 7, 2021 11:44:39 GMT -5
I remember when Bob Chesney was discussed as a possible hire for us here on Crossports. A couple of folks thought he was perhaps too young. I think he was 38-39. Notre Dame's (!) new coach is 35.
Duke has an opening at HC and one website proposes East Carolina’s Mike Houston and Army’s Jeff Monken as possibilities. Apparently, Cutcliffe (the old coach) made 2.6M per year so the money could be tempting to a sitting and successful FBS coach.
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Post by timholycross on Dec 7, 2021 11:58:59 GMT -5
Mike Houston's done little at the BCS level, yet.
As for Moncken, Duke would have to commit to a 180 in terms of style of football; but they might be thinking that in order to succeed, they need a niche, so to speak.
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Post by purplehaze on Dec 7, 2021 12:07:27 GMT -5
Houston has actually done a good job at East Carolina which was a mess when he arrived - he went 7-5 this year and will play BC in a bowl in Annapolis
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Post by dharry13 on Dec 7, 2021 12:08:25 GMT -5
From Kevin Tresolini - who covers Delaware Football. No announcement yet on Delware hire to the players and recruits. School reps were told on Monday to expect a hiring later this week. No name given but description provided sounded like expected hire Ryan Carty though until deal finalized can't be sure.
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