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Post by jstill on Mar 30, 2023 20:27:33 GMT -5
What is the role of an AD immediately after two players enter the portal while they are currently enrolled and right on campus? I am an advocate of a pro-student-athlete AD as opposed to a pro-coach AD in an instance such as this but don't know if any NCAA regulations govern interactions between the different parties once a student enters the portal. in I heard secondhand from former player at Bucknell that Woodruff was completely blindsided by these transfers
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Post by PLhoops8 on Mar 31, 2023 9:42:27 GMT -5
I heard secondhand from former player at Bucknell that Woodruff was completely blindsided by these transfers Did the former player give any indication as to why the transfers happened? Any issues with the program or woodruff?
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Post by timholycross on Mar 31, 2023 15:16:00 GMT -5
BC's women's team has lost a lot of players the last 2-3 years. Not sure who's in a position to say which player(s) left for what reason, but it sounds like the same situation we've had here except, of course, the record has been better (78-69 under this coach after the previous one was 68-115).
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Post by hcnj on Mar 31, 2023 15:18:57 GMT -5
Maybe longsuffering will share his inside info as to why the AD should suspect the coach as being at fault for something that needs to be rectified. Without that kind of factual info I'd have assumed players leave for the reasons that most enter the portal, and in droves. Or the comment could be interpreted as "can you believe the coach didn't realize..."
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 31, 2023 15:46:22 GMT -5
Maybe longsuffering will share his inside info as to why the AD should suspect the coach as being at fault for something that needs to be rectified. Without that kind of factual info I'd have assumed players leave for the reasons that most enter the portal, and in droves. Or the comment could be interpreted as "can you believe the coach didn't realize..." "Inside info?" I'm not that knowledgeable. You are right most student athletes enter the portal like most adults enter and re-enter the job market, to attempt to find a better fit for themselves and it's completely above board and should be honored by all. I'm wondering if an AD can lobby the student to stay or attempt to address any issues the student has or if the NCAA places any limits on administrators/coaches from initiating this kind of contact while the student is in the portal? I do like the concept of ADs supporting students and supervising coaches rather than the other way around. It's kind of semantics because supervision is often characterterized as support.
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Post by jstill on Mar 31, 2023 16:03:47 GMT -5
I heard secondhand from former player at Bucknell that Woodruff was completely blindsided by these transfers Did the former player give any indication as to why the transfers happened? Any issues with the program or woodruff? No but they talked to woodruff personally and he did not see it coming - who knows it could cut both ways and maybe the players especially Collins want a bigger stage.
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Post by bison137 on Mar 31, 2023 16:47:38 GMT -5
Did the former player give any indication as to why the transfers happened? Any issues with the program or woodruff? No but they talked to woodruff personally and he did not see it coming - who knows it could cut both ways and maybe the players especially Collins want a bigger stage. From what I hear, Collins definitely wants a bigger stage. She has talked to several ACC teams and may well end up in that league.
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Post by PLhoops8 on Apr 2, 2023 17:31:07 GMT -5
No but they talked to woodruff personally and he did not see it coming - who knows it could cut both ways and maybe the players especially Collins want a bigger stage. From what I hear, Collins definitely wants a bigger stage. She has talked to several ACC teams and may well end up in that league. I’m unconvinced that this isn’t a coaching issue. Not surprising she’s seeing offers from the ACC, she’s got the stats to back it up. Still a risk to end up in the ACC and come off the bench as O’Brien did at Florida State this season. Makes you wonder why a player who is the first option/star at Bucknell would risk that. Also, does not explain Sissellman’s departure. I understand Collins’ reasoning for a bigger stage, but two in a season is odd for a serious academic institution like Bucknell.
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Post by HC13 on Apr 3, 2023 17:59:46 GMT -5
Gakdeng lands at NC, another intra-congerence transfer
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Post by HC13 on Apr 6, 2023 18:14:09 GMT -5
From what I hear, Collins definitely wants a bigger stage. She has talked to several ACC teams and may well end up in that league. I’m unconvinced that this isn’t a coaching issue. Not surprising she’s seeing offers from the ACC, she’s got the stats to back it up. Still a risk to end up in the ACC and come off the bench as O’Brien did at Florida State this season. Makes you wonder why a player who is the first option/star at Bucknell would risk that. Also, does not explain Sissellman’s departure. I understand Collins’ reasoning for a bigger stage, but two in a season is odd for a serious academic institution like Bucknell. Collins visited BC today.
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 6, 2023 19:49:00 GMT -5
From what I hear, Collins definitely wants a bigger stage. She has talked to several ACC teams and may well end up in that league. I’m unconvinced that this isn’t a coaching issue. Not surprising she’s seeing offers from the ACC, she’s got the stats to back it up. Still a risk to end up in the ACC and come off the bench as O’Brien did at Florida State this season. Makes you wonder why a player who is the first option/star at Bucknell would risk that. Also, does not explain Sissellman’s departure. I understand Collins’ reasoning for a bigger stage, but two in a season is odd for a serious academic institution like Bucknell. HC has a basketball team on the upswing the last couple of years and a basketball team on the downswing. The team on the downswing has lost more players to the portal than the one on the upswing. Two defections from 13-17 Bucknell isn't surprising even if it is odd historically.
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Post by bfoley82 on Apr 10, 2023 15:14:54 GMT -5
BC's women's team has lost a lot of players the last 2-3 years. Not sure who's in a position to say which player(s) left for what reason, but it sounds like the same situation we've had here except, of course, the record has been better (78-69 under this coach after the previous one was 68-115). And from what I have seen from her through the years, she is a pretty good coach at BC.
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Post by HC13 on Apr 10, 2023 15:50:17 GMT -5
I agree, I think she has done a decent job of rebuilding, strikes me that there seems to be a lot of poaching going on right now.
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Post by purplehaze on Apr 10, 2023 16:58:29 GMT -5
Safe to suggest that NIL $ flow more freely south of the Mason Dixon line
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Post by HC13 on Apr 15, 2023 18:01:27 GMT -5
Bucknell grad transfer Emma Shaffer to Santa Clara
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Post by oldschoolhoops on Apr 17, 2023 14:46:04 GMT -5
BU Maren Durant grad transfer to George Washington.
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 17, 2023 14:47:51 GMT -5
Bucknell grad transfer Emma Shaffer to Santa Clara One of my favorite opponents. Good luck in the WCC.
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 17, 2023 14:50:54 GMT -5
Some players like Maddie Demski have grad transferred down some are transferring up, some playing another year at Alma Mater, all benefitting. The Covid year has to be one of the better decisions by the beleaguered NCAA.
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Post by HC13 on Apr 17, 2023 17:58:15 GMT -5
LEhigh's grad transfer Fran Hottinger to Marquette.
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 17, 2023 23:06:14 GMT -5
Fifth year seniors who have made one of the all-PL teams or who are close to that level are a great one year investment for P-6 teams. What happens after next season when the Covid year turns into a pumpkin? Will power conference teams make a two or three year investment in frosh or sophs who have made the all rookie team or third team all PL or above by sophomore year?
They can likely get recruits who are currently higher rated in HS than the PL players were rated in HS. But the PL players will have proved it in actual D-1 games. Interesting to see if the transfer culture has been permanently strengthened or if it reverts to pre-Covid levels.
Logically it reverts to pre-Covid levels. It is a bit confusing whether the extra Covid year or the transfer portal, which both emerged around the same time are bigger contributors to increased transfers. I suspect the transfer portal will become basically an administrative efficiency once the data shows that transferring is no magic bullet and voluntarily surrendering your scholarship is a big risk.
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Post by mainejeff on Apr 18, 2023 7:03:16 GMT -5
Fordham G Anna DeWolfe to Notre Dame.
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Post by HC13 on Apr 18, 2023 8:35:26 GMT -5
Lehigh's Kramer to Clemson.
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Post by HC13 on Apr 20, 2023 12:57:12 GMT -5
Bucknell picks up two transfers from Fordham Fr Ashley O'Connor & RS Fr Sophia Sabino, O'Connor was a teammate of Cahalan & Bachmann at SJV. Sabino played at Red Bank Catholic. Lot of Shore kids in the PL right now.
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Post by HC92 on Apr 20, 2023 15:33:32 GMT -5
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Post by sader1970 on Apr 20, 2023 16:30:30 GMT -5
Well, Kit, Maureen and Dave P were asked about the transfer portal because whoever asked the question in the PC webinar said to the effect that the portal has not been a friend but an enemy to HC. Kit and to a lesser extent Maureen disputed that and used among others, Joe Octave coming in and Calley Wright as the first transfer into HC women's basketball program (to Maureen's knowledge). Dave said he wants to build the program from the ground up (definitely not ruling out transfer in but his challenge, like all, is to stop transfers out . . . . like he apparently did with Bo). But, my impression was Kit was trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.
So, here's some more "topspin." Maureen used Avery LaBarbara's grad transfer to Wisconsin as a plus as we have no grad program but she implied the fact that Avery apparently had the best 3 point shooting percentage in the Big 10 would enhance HC image.
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