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Post by PLhoops8 on Mar 26, 2023 8:16:33 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 26, 2023 10:27:27 GMT -5
Thanks. She doesn't like to be pinned down by her answers. Smart, why eliminate any possibilities before she's even heard from anyone yet? This is the portal working as it should. For Bucknell this is powerful feedback. Good luck Ms. Collins.
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Post by purplehaze on Mar 28, 2023 10:41:36 GMT -5
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Post by HC13 on Mar 28, 2023 11:31:32 GMT -5
Yes, as I noted earlier, Carmen is friendly with our other Shore players, Donnelly, Cahalan, Munt & incoming Frosh Bachmann either through Hoop Group or AAU. She would be a wonderful addition.
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Post by HC13 on Mar 28, 2023 11:44:08 GMT -5
The loss of Kramer ( although listed as a Jr, appears to be a Grad Transfer) and the Bucknell losses certainly strengthen the position of HC & BU for next season (assuming they don't lose anybody the portal).
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Mar 28, 2023 13:29:44 GMT -5
RE: BC. Not really surprising; they seem to lose a couple of their best players almost every year to the portal. One of them, Soule is in the final four with VT.
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Post by timholycross on Mar 28, 2023 14:30:11 GMT -5
RE: BC. Not really surprising; they seem to lose a couple of their best players almost every year to the portal. One of them, Soule is in the final four with VT. Soule started, played 35 minutes, 12 points. They had an HC-like box score- 6 players only (plus one young lady who played a minute).
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Post by HC13 on Mar 28, 2023 14:46:06 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure that Soule was a grad transfer, not sure how that translates into a blackmark on the program (not that I'm defending BC here).
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Post by bison137 on Mar 28, 2023 14:59:18 GMT -5
The loss of Kramer ( although listed as a Jr, appears to be a Grad Transfer) and the Bucknell losses certainly strengthen the position of HC & BU for next season (assuming they don't lose anybody the portal). I don’t know Kramer’s graduation status, but I do know that she has only been in college three years, all at Lehigh
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Post by PLhoops8 on Mar 28, 2023 15:31:14 GMT -5
The loss of Kramer ( although listed as a Jr, appears to be a Grad Transfer) and the Bucknell losses certainly strengthen the position of HC & BU for next season (assuming they don't lose anybody the portal). I don’t know Kramer’s graduation status, but I do know that she has only been in college three years, all at Lehigh Social media indicates Kramer received her degree from Lehigh. With her talent, I’d guess she’d be going to a P5 program or at a minimum to a major tournament contender.
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Mar 28, 2023 15:36:35 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure that Soule was a grad transfer, not sure how that translates into a blackmark on the program (not that I'm defending BC here). She was; and she could have remained loyal to BC and gone to grad school there.
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Post by HC13 on Mar 28, 2023 15:39:14 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure that Soule was a grad transfer, not sure how that translates into a blackmark on the program (not that I'm defending BC here). She was; and she could have remained loyal to BC and gone to grad school there. Why? Her loyalty was proven by staying 4 years. Never begrudge someone going elsewhere for a grad degree.
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Post by HC13 on Mar 28, 2023 15:40:59 GMT -5
I don’t know Kramer’s graduation status, but I do know that she has only been in college three years, all at Lehigh Social media indicates Kramer received her degree from Lehigh. With her talent, I’d guess she’d be going to a P5 program or at a minimum to a major tournament contender. Not a complete shock as she is the 2 time WBB Scholar-Athlete of the Year award winner with a culminative 4.0 GPA.
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Post by PLhoops8 on Mar 28, 2023 15:44:13 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure that Soule was a grad transfer, not sure how that translates into a blackmark on the program (not that I'm defending BC here). She was; and she could have remained loyal to BC and gone to grad school there. Seems like a significant number of grad transfers leave mid major/prestigious academic programs for higher level basketball or leave high performing basketball programs and parlay their basketball skill into grad program admissions at prestigious institutions, Ivy League, etc. Not a ton of lateral moves when it comes to grad xfers. Soule fits that profile fairly well.
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Post by bison137 on Mar 28, 2023 16:08:40 GMT -5
She was; and she could have remained loyal to BC and gone to grad school there. Seems like a significant number of grad transfers leave mid major/prestigious academic programs for higher level basketball or leave high performing basketball programs and parlay their basketball skill into grad program admissions at prestigious institutions, Ivy League, etc. Not a ton of lateral moves when it comes to grad transfers agree with most of this. But note that no graduate transfers are allowed in the Ivy League.
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Mar 28, 2023 16:34:28 GMT -5
She was; and she could have remained loyal to BC and gone to grad school there. Seems like a significant number of grad transfers leave mid major/prestigious academic programs for higher level basketball or leave high performing basketball programs and parlay their basketball skill into grad program admissions at prestigious institutions, Ivy League, etc. Not a ton of lateral moves when it comes to grad xfers. Soule fits that profile fairly well. Which profile does she fit? BC and VTech are both in the ACC.
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Mar 28, 2023 17:01:23 GMT -5
She was; and she could have remained loyal to BC and gone to grad school there. Why? Her loyalty was proven by staying 4 years. Never begrudge someone going elsewhere for a grad degree. Hypothetical: HC and Bucknell both have the same grad programs. Avery leaves HC and does a grad transfer year at Bucknell (lateral transfer, same as Soule). Do you think anyone on this board would begrudge her?
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Post by HC13 on Mar 28, 2023 17:22:15 GMT -5
Do you think BC's would? By the way, I don't recall anyone at BC having a significant issue with her leaving.
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Post by bison137 on Mar 28, 2023 17:32:52 GMT -5
Why? Her loyalty was proven by staying 4 years. Never begrudge someone going elsewhere for a grad degree. Hypothetical: HC and Bucknell both have the same grad programs. Avery leaves HC and does a grad transfer year at Bucknell (lateral transfer, same as Soule). Do you think anyone on this board would begrudge her? I realize this is just hypothetical, but in real life it could not happen because the patriot league does not allow grad transfers.
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Post by PLhoops8 on Mar 28, 2023 17:48:42 GMT -5
Why? Her loyalty was proven by staying 4 years. Never begrudge someone going elsewhere for a grad degree. Hypothetical: HC and Bucknell both have the same grad programs. Avery leaves HC and does a grad transfer year at Bucknell (lateral transfer, same as Soule). Do you think anyone on this board would begrudge her? Soule is roughly a lateral transfer academically, I’d argue she went to play better basketball seeing as how VT was a 5 seed the previous season and BC has been streaky the past couple seasons. Depends on coaching situations as well, good coaches and programmatic reputation is going to attract talent. Facilities and stipends are another major factor, mid majors typically lack that in spades. Your theoretical about Avery from HC-Bucknell is interesting, though considering how poorly Bucknell performed this season and the unexplained transfers of the best player on the team and a well recruited presumed starter, I’d question whether it really is equivalent from a basketball program sense now or for the foreseeable future.
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 28, 2023 21:46:58 GMT -5
She was; and she could have remained loyal to BC and gone to grad school there. Seems like a significant number of grad transfers leave mid major/prestigious academic programs for higher level basketball or leave high performing basketball programs and parlay their basketball skill into grad program admissions at prestigious institutions, Ivy League, etc. Not a ton of lateral moves when it comes to grad xfers. Soule fits that profile fairly well. We've had two recent grad transfers to D-2, Connor Degenhardt (FB QB) to University of New Haven and Maddy Demski (WBB C/F) to Gannon. I thought it was a strategic move by both. Connor got two extra seasons and with her many injuries at HC, Maddy probably could play a second grad year, too if she wants to. Neither were assured a D-1 scholarship offer as a grad transfer.
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Post by hc99 on Mar 30, 2023 11:12:16 GMT -5
Seems like a significant number of grad transfers leave mid major/prestigious academic programs for higher level basketball or leave high performing basketball programs and parlay their basketball skill into grad program admissions at prestigious institutions, Ivy League, etc. Not a ton of lateral moves when it comes to grad xfers. Soule fits that profile fairly well. We've had two recent grad transfers to D-2, Connor Degenhardt (FB QB) to University of New Haven and Maddy Demski (WBB C/F) to Gannon. I thought it was a strategic move by both. Connor got two extra seasons and with her many injuries at HC, Maddy probably could play a second grad year, too if she wants to. Neither were assured a D-1 scholarship offer as a grad transfer. Don't rule out the aspect of going home as far as Demski was concerned.
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 30, 2023 15:03:02 GMT -5
We've had two recent grad transfers to D-2, Connor Degenhardt (FB QB) to University of New Haven and Maddy Demski (WBB C/F) to Gannon. I thought it was a strategic move by both. Connor got two extra seasons and with her many injuries at HC, Maddy probably could play a second grad year, too if she wants to. Neither were assured a D-1 scholarship offer as a grad transfer. Don't rule out the aspect of going home as far as Demski was concerned. I like the Demski move for that reason and also to align herself in a division and speed of play she could shine in despite her mobility issues from her many injuries. Addie Cross is going to nursing school if I understood correctly. Gannon may offer nursing but that might be too heavy a load to play BB and study nursing, unless she took many science courses at HC and wouldn't be overwhelmed by the nursing curriculum.
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Post by jstill on Mar 30, 2023 20:25:16 GMT -5
From watching the Bucknell WBB games this year, and listening to post games interviews with Coach Woodruff, there seemed to a lack of chemistry between him, the staff and the players. He did not seem to display any emotional warmth with his team.
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Post by jstill on Mar 30, 2023 20:26:02 GMT -5
Another Bucknell player has entered the transfer portal, Remi Sisselman another Sophomore and contributor. Announced on her Twitter. Jstill may be onto something with head coach issues. Maybe more going on? What is the role of an AD immediately after two players enter the portal while they are currently enrolled and right on campus? I am an advocate of a pro-student-athlete AD as opposed to a pro-coach AD in an instance such as this but don't know if any NCAA regulations govern interactions between the different parties once a student enters the portal. in
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