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Post by hchoops on Oct 10, 2022 19:13:34 GMT -5
^ And you will, as there is multi-year, multi-sport arrangement with Merrimack in place. Not soon enough for men’s hoops
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Post by efg72 on Oct 10, 2022 19:34:21 GMT -5
I don't like playing teams below our weight
If we truly are committed to football, and find a future in hoops, our OOC schedule needs to be filled with top 20 teams in football and top 50 schools in hoops
Anything less will be on our best day status quo which isn't good enough for the school and a commitment to mediocrity
The CAF/Momentum are structured to get us to a new level academically, athletically, and spiritually
✝️✝️✝️✝️🏈🏈🏀🏀⚽️⚽️⚾️⚾️🥎🥎🏑🏑🤼🤼🏌️♀️🏌️♀️🎾🎾🏉🏉🏐🏐🏊🏽🏊🏽🏊♀️🏊♀️🚣♀️🥍🥍🏒🏒
And other sports
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Post by cruskater31 on Oct 10, 2022 19:48:24 GMT -5
I don't like playing teams below our weight If we truly are committed to football, and find a future in hoops, our OOC schedule needs to be filled with top 20 teams in football and top 50 schools in hoops Anything less will be on our best day status quo which isn't good enough for the school and a commitment to mediocrity The CAF/Momentum are structured to get us to a new level academically, athletically, and spiritually ✝️✝️✝️✝️🏈🏈🏀🏀⚽️⚽️⚾️⚾️🥎🥎🏑🏑🤼🤼🏌️♀️🏌️♀️🎾🎾🏉🏉🏐🏐🏊🏽🏊🏽🏊♀️🏊♀️🚣♀️🥍🥍🏒🏒 And other sports Yes! I do like having one early non-conference game that is easily winnable on paper to get our feet wet. Of course that could be an FBS game like BC or UMess.
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Post by longsuffering on Oct 10, 2022 20:14:14 GMT -5
I don't like playing teams below our weight If we truly are committed to football, and find a future in hoops, our OOC schedule needs to be filled with top 20 teams in football and top 50 schools in hoops Anything less will be on our best day status quo which isn't good enough for the school and a commitment to mediocrity The CAF/Momentum are structured to get us to a new level academically, athletically, and spiritually ✝️✝️✝️✝️🏈🏈🏀🏀⚽️⚽️⚾️⚾️🥎🥎🏑🏑🤼🤼🏌️♀️🏌️♀️🎾🎾🏉🏉🏐🏐🏊🏽🏊🏽🏊♀️🏊♀️🚣♀️🥍🥍🏒🏒 And other sports If the icons in your post were MBB victories we'd be in the final four.🙂 Playing a schedule filled with top 50 teams is a fine aspiration and playing Merrimack for awhile may help us reach that aspiration. It's a given we want to beat Merrimack but not a given it will happen and not a given that it won't be Merrimack that ends up playing a top 50 schedule first.😒
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Post by efg72 on Oct 10, 2022 20:22:04 GMT -5
Adding top 20 teams home and away, a couple of FBS winnable games will grow attendance at Fitton and make this sustainable for the next decade
5 top 50 pay games allow for 5-6 New England/Northeast opponents at home that make sense for the program and a couple of others away
Three years from today this is a significantly different hoops program!!!
Schedules matter
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Post by bfoley82 on Oct 10, 2022 21:01:19 GMT -5
Stonehill is another option since they are D-1 now... No value in putting Stonehill on the schedule unless they are a new PLmember You guys said the same thing about Bryant....
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Post by efg72 on Oct 10, 2022 21:03:14 GMT -5
And agree with it now
UNH wouldn't play us so we had few options---just kidding
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Post by hc87 on Oct 10, 2022 22:34:58 GMT -5
Our college hoops is in a vast wasteland....really no saving it at this point....follow football, it's all we have at this juncture
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Oct 10, 2022 22:40:13 GMT -5
I'm entering the "acceptance stage" of following HC MBB
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Post by longsuffering on Oct 11, 2022 0:23:54 GMT -5
Our college hoops is in a vast wasteland....really no saving it at this point....follow football, it's all we have at this juncture Don't jump. Stay away from the Sagamore Bridge. MBB is a coiled spring. I like our new lineup and depth.
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Post by longsuffering on Oct 11, 2022 0:26:55 GMT -5
I'm entering the "acceptance stage" of following HC MBB The report from the open practice indicated a pulse had been found.
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Post by football44 on Oct 11, 2022 4:49:33 GMT -5
I don’t want us to be running up the score unnecessarily but there is a lot that goes into it. It’s hard to find the right balance between doing what’s right for your team and keeping scores reasonable. I thought the balance was okay on Saturday. We have a bye next week. We played the starters two series on offense in the second half. We passed the ball once in the 4th on 3rd and long. I was more bothered by the end of the Yale game when we kept our foot on the gas until the very end. People stop with concern about running up the score. First off there is a deep seeded hatred for Bucknell by the players. No love loss. They are still pissed that Bucknell tried to steal the 2021 championship by not allowing any HC fans including their parents into the stadium because of Covid when Bucknell had stands filled with fans. Their plan was to score as many points as possible. Now I don’t hear anyone talking about Fordham running up scores. Let’s be happy our team is great. Enjoy it while we have it.
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Post by hcpride on Oct 11, 2022 5:18:56 GMT -5
They don’t help for seeding? Human polls mean nothing for any NCAA Tournament seeding. Not considered. No. What does the Selection Committee look at in its process?
For information on selecting, seeding, and bracketing teams, the committee may consider comparative data of individual teams, including but not limited to:
Overall record Record against Division I opponents (an institution with fewer than six Division I wins may place that team in jeopardy of not being selected) Record against opponents from other AQ conferences Record against Football Bowl Subdivision (FBS) opponents Head-to-head record Record against common opponents NCAA Simple Rating System (NCAA SRS) Data FCS Coaches Poll Input from regional advisory committeeswww.ncaa.com/news/football/article/2020-01-11/fcs-championship-everything-you-need-know?ampFWIW, we are 8th in the FCS Coaches Poll at this point: www.ncaa.com/rankings/football/fcs/fcs-coaches-poll
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Oct 11, 2022 5:21:38 GMT -5
I don’t want us to be running up the score unnecessarily but there is a lot that goes into it. It’s hard to find the right balance between doing what’s right for your team and keeping scores reasonable. I thought the balance was okay on Saturday. We have a bye next week. We played the starters two series on offense in the second half. We passed the ball once in the 4th on 3rd and long. I was more bothered by the end of the Yale game when we kept our foot on the gas until the very end. People stop with concern about running up the score. First off there is a deep seeded hatred for Bucknell by the players. No love loss. They are still pissed that Bucknell tried to steal the 2021 championship by not allowing any HC fans including their parents into the stadium because of Covid when Bucknell had stands filled with fans. Their plan was to score as many points as possible. Now I don’t hear anyone talking about Fordham running up scores. Let’s be happy our team is great. Enjoy it while we have it. Fordham's largest margin of victory this year is 21 points, in a game they were down two scores in the 1st quarter and tied at half, versus Georgetown. 59-38 final. But to your point, there should be no concern that HC ran up the score. Even without considering the fan situation at the title game 2 years ago. Leaving starters in for the first couple series of the third quarter is pretty par for the course in those kind of games. Plus it's a bye week pending and reps are needed. The biggest theme as to why Chesney's teams win is because we play a full 60 minutes. The biggest blowout I've witnessed at a Holy Cross game (where we were the dominant team) was against Georgetown in 2007. 41-0 at half -- although we went deep, DEEP into the bench afterwards, I'm fairly certain that the ones were out there until at least the 7:00 mark or so in the third quarter. This may sound silly too but you also have to think of it like this. Let's say hypothetically you pull all the starters up 37-0 at half and the twos hang in there a bit and give up two long TD drives in the third. Then Bucknell scores on a big play or a quick defensive TD early fourth. Then it's 37-21, a two score game, maybe 37-22 or 37-23 if Bison went for two. What do you do then? Bring the starters back in? No coach wants to sweat through even that remote possibility, hence why even in blowout losses you don't see benches getting fully unloaded until at least midway through the third quarter. We beat Lehigh 56-0 IIRC in 2018 on an ugly, rainy day in Worcester during Chesney's first season. I don't remember anyone making references to running up the score in that one.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Oct 11, 2022 6:11:32 GMT -5
TPTB have decreed that they need to increase the 'visibility' of Holy Cross, and 'build the brand' in the South and the West. One way of doing that is to schedule OOC games in those regions.
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Post by HC92 on Oct 11, 2022 6:41:23 GMT -5
I don’t want us to be running up the score unnecessarily but there is a lot that goes into it. It’s hard to find the right balance between doing what’s right for your team and keeping scores reasonable. I thought the balance was okay on Saturday. We have a bye next week. We played the starters two series on offense in the second half. We passed the ball once in the 4th on 3rd and long. I was more bothered by the end of the Yale game when we kept our foot on the gas until the very end. People stop with concern about running up the score. First off there is a deep seeded hatred for Bucknell by the players. No love loss. They are still pissed that Bucknell tried to steal the 2021 championship by not allowing any HC fans including their parents into the stadium because of Covid when Bucknell had stands filled with fans. Their plan was to score as many points as possible. Now I don’t hear anyone talking about Fordham running up scores. Let’s be happy our team is great. Enjoy it while we have it. I said I think how we played on Saturday considering all of the variables was fine. When it was 35-7 against Yale in the 4th and we were still throwing it pretty regularly, one could have argued that was worse that running it on all but one down in the 4th vs Bucknell with a big lead. Running it up is not a huge concern and I am enjoying our success having suffered through many poor season since 1991. I just want to make sure we’re respectful of our opponents as we thrash them. I will admit that when Bucknell took two roughing the passer penalties on Sluka early in the third, my gut wanted to score more and we did.
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Post by trimster on Oct 11, 2022 7:12:33 GMT -5
Adding top 20 teams home and away, a couple of FBS winnable games will grow attendance at Fitton and make this sustainable for the next decade 5 top 50 pay games allow for 5-6 New England/Northeast opponents at home that make sense for the program and a couple of others away Three years from today this is a significantly different hoops program!!! Schedules matter Hand in hand with that is rivalries really matter. Those are the dates you circle on the calendar.
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Post by hcpride on Oct 11, 2022 7:14:51 GMT -5
Given the obvious talent differential between us and Bucknell (for example), switching out the 1’s for 2’s and 3’s may amount for a distinction without a difference. We can continue to shut them down on D and score on O. And if they put in 2’s?😱😱
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Oct 11, 2022 7:34:38 GMT -5
TPTB have decreed that they need to increase the 'visibility' of Holy Cross, and 'build the brand' in the South and the West. One way of doing that is to schedule OOC games in those regions. You know what also does that? A couplet of basketball games over the holidays against Wofford and Elon.
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Post by timholycross on Oct 11, 2022 8:57:11 GMT -5
Believe me, winning by how much is a tremendous problem to have for our program right now....it just didn't sit right for me that Sluka and many other starters played a significant amount in the 2nd H yesterday after being up 37-0 at halftime. IMHO they played as much as they should have. Were on the bench by the end of Q3. Have no problem with Chesney's mind set on Saturday. Would have made sure Sluka was not calling his own number in Q3, that's for sure.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Oct 11, 2022 8:57:39 GMT -5
Great reference
**Furman and Wofford though
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Oct 11, 2022 8:59:31 GMT -5
Believe me, winning by how much is a tremendous problem to have for our program right now....it just didn't sit right for me that Sluka and many other starters played a significant amount in the 2nd H yesterday after being up 37-0 at halftime. IMHO they played as much as they should have. Were on the bench by the end of Q3. Have no problem with Chesney's mind set on Saturday. Would have made sure Sluka was not calling his own number in Q3, that's for sure. Exactly. The health of our star QB, who's often twisting and turning as he shoulders through those power runs, was more of my concern as well. Not whether or not someone is butthurt that we scored 57 instead of 50.
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Post by timholycross on Oct 11, 2022 8:59:50 GMT -5
I'm entering the "acceptance stage" of following HC MBB The report from the open practice indicated a pulse had been found. (sorry, but the temptation to put a political statement in here was too great) But it might be a false pulse (see Abrams, Stacey).
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Post by timholycross on Oct 11, 2022 9:04:08 GMT -5
At least Bucknell was smart enough to burn the clock and refrained from the wacky and repeated downfield throws that more foolish teams would have attempted. 33 rushes (for 109 yards) and just 15 passing attempts (for 60 yards). The classic idiotic response from a losing coach was the Lions coach on Sunday. Down 29-0, most of his secondary out with injuries; burns all 3 of his time outs defensively. Added another 3-5 plays to the game.
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Post by princetoncrusader on Oct 11, 2022 9:19:39 GMT -5
A departed dear friend was a Penn grad. We went to Fitton and watched HC pile up a big score against them. He was not a happy Quaker. It was the size of the rout more than the loss which ticked him off. He said little. Next time at Franklin Field Penn equaled the HC point total in the first game in the first half. HC was hapless and did not score in the first half. I do not remember the final score but it was a rout. They eased up. We both laughed. Payback is a dog. I believe the final score of that game was 59-8, which was back in the Vaas era. Just a dreadful day in cavernous Franklin Field for the Crusaders. I think Penn had a QB transfer from Northwestern, who had a field day. It was 35-0 at the half with Penn in a hurry up offense in the last minute. On a top of that, I think it cost $20 for a ticket. Glad those days are behind us.
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