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Post by hcnj on Mar 17, 2023 16:08:02 GMT -5
I don't view Bo any differently than any of our other Xfers other than fifth year COVID guys. If he or anyone else bolts or decommits we move on. I hope 3 guys don't but we'll get to see our new coach in action getting better recruits or Xfers right out of the box. Recruits may be tough this late but he'll get a jump on the next class and some Xfers.
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Post by trimster on Mar 17, 2023 16:19:13 GMT -5
I'm hoping HC has a coach in place by 3 weeks from now.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Mar 17, 2023 16:22:29 GMT -5
Watching some of these 13-14-15 seeds vs. where HC is right now depresses me.
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Post by cfrivals on Mar 17, 2023 17:18:13 GMT -5
A name would be irrelevant to me. A low profile proven winner is more than fine with me. Couldn't agree more. HC missed is big time around 2004. Coming off the most successful run in 2 decades, RW complained about the travel in the PL and the facilities. Remember he had to schedule pay games to pay for a raised floor. Nothing was put into a successful program and that coupled with 4 bad coaches and let’s face it, a terrible conference, led us here
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Post by hc87 on Mar 17, 2023 18:12:59 GMT -5
I know, new world blah, blah, blah....but how do you leave HC after your Junior year???
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Post by timholycross on Mar 17, 2023 18:18:24 GMT -5
Perhaps thinking 2 years somewhere- one as a grad student. Worked for Granderson & Green. As I said somewhere on here: the longer you don't have a coach, the more of this you'll see. Grandy and Green left after their sophomore seasons. But there was a year sit out required at the time; therefore, both of them were college graduates with a year of eligibility left.
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Post by timholycross on Mar 17, 2023 18:19:26 GMT -5
This is why it’s super important to hire a name coach ASAP. The portal can be used to fill out a roster. Possibly expect one or two more departures. We aren't exactly talking about a John Wooden era UCLA roster here. As several have pointed out, Casey Stengel once said.................. Branch Rickey, but I know what you were talking about.
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 17, 2023 19:46:58 GMT -5
Grandy and Green left after their sophomore seasons. But there was a year sit out required at the time; therefore, both of them were college graduates with a year of eligibility left. Got me.🙂 But somehow leaving after putting three years in at a college appears to speak the player's message, whatever it is, in a higher volume than leaving after two years. I don't think a student athlete in a two semester sport at HC can easily fall behind in academics because don't you have to be passing everything to keep playing?
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Post by timholycross on Mar 18, 2023 7:43:35 GMT -5
Yes, I didn't take into account in Bo's situation, because of the elimination of year wait; is giving up a HC degree for one from __________ U plus potentially a year of grad school there; we won't know until we can fill in the blank whether that move made sense.
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Post by cfrivals on Mar 18, 2023 8:28:07 GMT -5
The portal is what it is for now, it’s a recruiting tool and the new coach needs to be able to use it day 1.
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Post by hcpride on Mar 18, 2023 8:41:44 GMT -5
The portal is what it is for now, it’s a recruiting tool and the new coach needs to be able to use it day 1. Hopefully he’s not hamstrung (via AI and HC admissions) as far as incoming portal recruits are concerned. Our outflow via portal is full force. Our difficulties via ‘legacy’ recruiting of high school seniors is apparent. New coach needs to be a proven and excellent recruiter. Lots of ground to make up in that direction.
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Post by Tom on Mar 18, 2023 9:10:32 GMT -5
Yes, I didn't take into account in Bo's situation, because of the elimination of year wait; is giving up a HC degree for one from __________ U plus potentially a year of grad school there; we won't know until we can fill in the blank whether that move made sense. I'm still not convinced that's what's on the table. I don't think HC would let someone (athlete or not) transfer in for senior year and give them a degree in one year. I think most high end academic institutions require you spend more than a single year at the school to get a degree. There's no guarantee that Bo or any other rising senior would be making significant progress towards a Masters. Very different than the route that Faw and Butler took
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Post by WorcesterGray on Mar 18, 2023 9:14:58 GMT -5
Hopefully he’s not hamstrung (via AI and HC admissions) as far as incoming portal recruits are concerned. Colgate seems to have figured it out.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Mar 18, 2023 9:26:25 GMT -5
I looked up transfers for Baylor. I think this is pretty universal in Division I.
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Post by hcpride on Mar 18, 2023 10:17:31 GMT -5
Hopefully he’s not hamstrung (via AI and HC admissions) as far as incoming portal recruits are concerned. Colgate seems to have figured it out. Yes. Colgate ‘s top players are a blend of good ‘legacy’ recruits (primarily) and a couple of transfers in. We tend to miss on both counts. Other teams have figured it out too.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Mar 20, 2023 16:50:38 GMT -5
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Post by hchoops on Mar 20, 2023 16:54:48 GMT -5
As Sesame Street says, One of these things is not like the others.
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Post by hchoops on Mar 20, 2023 16:56:41 GMT -5
If interest equals offer from at least a couple, he could be gone, esp if we do not move fast to hire.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Mar 20, 2023 17:14:47 GMT -5
I understand how difficult the last few years have been, but I really wish someone would get these guys to understand how much they're flushing away by leaving a Holy Cross degree on the table for Georgia Southern, Cleveland State, almost every school that has reached out to Bo, etc.
I really like Bo as a player and hope he makes the wise decision to stick around, be a major contributor to the turnaround of the program, and get his diploma from HC.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Mar 20, 2023 17:39:52 GMT -5
Richmond. The only school on that list that would be a home run for Bo from both a basketball and academic standpoint.
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Post by timholycross on Mar 20, 2023 17:43:51 GMT -5
Indiana State: Player to be named later for Wilbar?
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Post by WorcesterGray on Mar 20, 2023 17:52:37 GMT -5
If interest equals offer from at least a couple, he could be gone, esp if we do not move fast to hire. More important to take the time needed to get the right coach for the long-haul, than to worry about somebody who can take us or leave us.
GBAGL.
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Post by HC92 on Mar 20, 2023 18:27:04 GMT -5
Indiana State: Player to be named later for Wilbar? Hopefully it’s like the Rule 5 Draft in baseball and we just return him to his former team if he doesn’t last a full season.
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Post by hcpride on Mar 20, 2023 20:18:23 GMT -5
Richmond. The only school on that list that would be a home run for Bo from both a basketball and academic standpoint. If he wants playing time, it looks like Northeastern could use him. And some folks prefer Boston to Worcester. Delaware is another option. I think he’s good enough to start on some CAA teams.
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Post by HC92 on Mar 20, 2023 21:41:59 GMT -5
New coach has at least 8 scholarships to fill in his first year on the job. 3 can be filled in his first week on the job if he has guys he wants to bring in right away.
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