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Post by longsuffering on Jan 3, 2024 23:57:15 GMT -5
completely agree re: Joe P's time If the PL tosses its silly restrictions on ordinary redshirts, Joe P can have 2 more seasons at HC. I thought I noticed he had some type of slight limp his Freshman year...🤣
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 4, 2024 0:04:14 GMT -5
Of course no guarantees - and I love Sluka to death for all he has done for us - but he is not an NFL QB - just want to see him have a chance to start and enjoy success - somewhere else - this is Joe P's time at HC. I agree with your good wishes for Sluka and that it's Joe P's time at HC. But as I channel Matt's run from scrimmage against BC after the rain delay, I am not ready to rule him out as an NFL player. In my mind he has as much potential as a returner as Kalif and that is just one of many options potentially open to him.
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Post by hc6774 on Jan 4, 2024 10:24:15 GMT -5
Of course no guarantees - and I love Sluka to death for all he has done for us - but he is not an NFL QB - just want to see him have a chance to start and enjoy success - somewhere else - this is Joe P's time at HC. I agree with your good wishes for Sluka and that it's Joe P's time at HC. But as I channel Matt's run from scrimmage against BC after the rain delay, I am not ready to rule him out as an NFL player. In my mind he has as much potential as a returner as Kalif and that is just one of many options potentially open to him. Matt is an NFL level 'athlete' (elite DOM score) with QB leadership experience...not yet an NFL position group in the draft
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 4, 2024 10:26:57 GMT -5
I agree with your good wishes for Sluka and that it's Joe P's time at HC. But as I channel Matt's run from scrimmage against BC after the rain delay, I am not ready to rule him out as an NFL player. In my mind he has as much potential as a returner as Kalif and that is just one of many options potentially open to him. Matt is an NFL level 'athlete' (elite DOM score) with QB leadership experience...not yet an NFL position group in the draft
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 4, 2024 10:45:11 GMT -5
Matt is an NFL level 'athlete' (elite DOM score) with QB leadership experience...not yet an NFL position group in the draft Matt is a bigger Julian Edelman. (Quicker, faster? My guess is somewhat in the same ballpark although hard to measure due to different competition levels.) The NFL couldn't have had much knowledge of Julian's hands as a receiver before he was drafted in the seventh round in 2009 after playing quarterback at Kent State. Google says the Pats had private workouts with him before the draft. The miles on Julian's treads caught up to him as he went over the middle often. So there is some advantage to not taking more college hits next year before trying to make the NFL. Matt is already five years past his first high school graduation.
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Post by hcpride on Jan 4, 2024 11:26:16 GMT -5
Matt is a bigger Julian Edelman. (Quicker, faster? My guess is somewhat in the same ballpark although hard to measure due to different competition levels.) The NFL couldn't have had much knowledge of Julian's hands as a receiver before he was drafted in the seventh round in 2009 after playing quarterback at Kent State. Google says the Pats had private workouts with him before the draft. The miles on Julian's treads caught up to him as he went over the middle often. So there is some advantage to not taking more college hits next year before trying to make the NFL. Matt is already five years past his first high school graduation. Edelman ran a 4.51 second 40-yard dash, 3.91 seconds in the short shuttle and 10.74 in the long shuttle his pro day. Don’t see Matt hitting those numbers. Edelman was smart enough (given his sub-NFL arm) to return some punts senior year and even was on the coverage team in college.
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 4, 2024 11:47:06 GMT -5
Matt is a bigger Julian Edelman. (Quicker, faster? My guess is somewhat in the same ballpark although hard to measure due to different competition levels.) The NFL couldn't have had much knowledge of Julian's hands as a receiver before he was drafted in the seventh round in 2009 after playing quarterback at Kent State. Google says the Pats had private workouts with him before the draft. The miles on Julian's treads caught up to him as he went over the middle often. So there is some advantage to not taking more college hits next year before trying to make the NFL. Matt is already five years past his first high school graduation. Edelman ran a 4.51 second 40-yard dash, 3.91 seconds in the short shuttle and 10.74 in the long shuttle his pro day. Don’t see Matt hitting those numbers. Edelman was smart enough (given his sub-NFL arm) to return some punts senior year and even was on the coverage team in college. HC couldn't have risked Matt returning punts this past season. We were protecting his health for the playoffs.🤔 Actually that was probably the best decision given his injury status. Matt having a sub-NFL arm is a fair current description but his TD/int. ratio is pretty good and he hasn't had access to an NFL QB coach yet.
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Post by HC92 on Jan 4, 2024 12:29:18 GMT -5
A lot will depend on how he does this coming season. If he wanted to go to the NFL right now, some team would take a flyer on him either in the last round or as an UDFA. There’s definitely usable NFL talent there. Just need someone creative to figure out how and where to best use it within the context of an NFL offense. He could be a great CFL QB if he wanted to be.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 4, 2024 12:42:27 GMT -5
He could be the next Taysom Hill
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Post by hcpride on Jan 4, 2024 12:48:18 GMT -5
Edelman ran a 4.51 second 40-yard dash, 3.91 seconds in the short shuttle and 10.74 in the long shuttle his pro day. Don’t see Matt hitting those numbers. Edelman was smart enough (given his sub-NFL arm) to return some punts senior year and even was on the coverage team in college. HC couldn't have risked Matt returning punts this past season. We were protecting his health for the playoffs.🤔 Actually that was probably the best decision given his injury status. Matt having a sub-NFL arm is a fair current description but his TD/int. ratio is pretty good and he hasn't had access to an NFL QB coach yet. Not saying Matt should have returned punts (that would be nuts) just saying Edelman wanted a route to the NFL given that his arm was good enough for a MAC QB…but not NFL QB caliber.
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Post by hcpride on Jan 4, 2024 12:51:49 GMT -5
He could be the next Taysom Hill If colleges think that they’ll quickly snatch Sluka from the portal.
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Post by inhocsigno on Jan 4, 2024 12:57:20 GMT -5
Sluka is a gamer. I would welcome him back to HC if he decides to stay. If he goes for sure, he could play at the FBS level for about 90% of the teams.
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Post by hcpride on Jan 4, 2024 14:14:47 GMT -5
Sluka is a gamer. I would welcome him back to HC if he decides to stay. If he goes for sure, he could play at the FBS level for about 90% of the teams. I don't know. Matt's been in the portal since November 23 and every single FBS coach and staff knows he is there and his tape is available. If he really is unavailable in the Spring, he may be one of those guys who is signed late and after Coaches eyeball their spring QB's.
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Post by hc1996 on Jan 4, 2024 15:06:22 GMT -5
If Dobbs, Purdy and Sluka are starting for JMU next year my wife is gonna hate me. Saturday's are gonna consume much more of my attention.
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Post by midwestsader05 on Jan 4, 2024 15:10:26 GMT -5
If Dobbs, Purdy and Sluka are starting for JMU next year my wife is gonna hate me. Saturday's are gonna consume much more of my attention. And everyone’s forgetting Pat McMurtie at RT! Can’t forget the big guys in the trenches. Could be 4 Saders seeing run!
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Post by hc6774 on Jan 4, 2024 16:56:31 GMT -5
I think most red shirt transfer projects on the 2 deep chart talent wise; but the extra here is that in these cases they know how the coach wants to practice & prepare.
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 4, 2024 17:05:31 GMT -5
HC couldn't have risked Matt returning punts this past season. We were protecting his health for the playoffs.🤔 Actually that was probably the best decision given his injury status. Matt having a sub-NFL arm is a fair current description but his TD/int. ratio is pretty good and he hasn't had access to an NFL QB coach yet. Not saying Matt should have returned punts (that would be nuts) just saying Edelman wanted a route to the NFL given that his arm was good enough for a MAC QB…but not NFL QB caliber. Edelman is 5'10 and Matt is 6'3. If their arms are similar, more work would be put into Matt as a passer. Not fair but after following Flutie's career, that's how the NFL thinks.
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Post by HC92 on Jan 4, 2024 18:58:38 GMT -5
If Dobbs, Purdy and Sluka are starting for JMU next year my wife is gonna hate me. Saturday's are gonna consume much more of my attention. And everyone’s forgetting Pat McMurtie at RT! Can’t forget the big guys in the trenches. Could be 4 Saders seeing run! I could be convinced to take a road trip if others want to make an HC section at a JMU game.
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Post by timholycross on Jan 4, 2024 19:24:52 GMT -5
And everyone’s forgetting Pat McMurtie at RT! Can’t forget the big guys in the trenches. Could be 4 Saders seeing run! I could be convinced to take a road trip if others want to make an HC section at a JMU game. Just head towards Goodman Stadium and keep going another 300 miles; you can't miss it!
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Post by joutsHC77 on Jan 4, 2024 21:03:28 GMT -5
I just saw òn espn.com that Oklahoma State's QB Bowman was granted a 7th year! This is ridiculous IMO! Get your degree and eligibility completed in 4-5 years and move on, for crying out loud!
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Post by hcpride on Jan 4, 2024 22:13:14 GMT -5
Not saying Matt should have returned punts (that would be nuts) just saying Edelman wanted a route to the NFL given that his arm was good enough for a MAC QB…but not NFL QB caliber. Edelman is 5'10 and Matt is 6'3. If their arms are similar, more work would be put into Matt as a passer. Not fair but after following Flutie's career, that's how the NFL thinks. If the college coaches think he has NFL QB skills they’ll certainly rush to sign him out of the portal. He entered the portal on November 23.
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 5, 2024 0:18:02 GMT -5
Players who have completed their four years of college eligibility are automatically eligible for the NFL draft. Will any fifth year players signed to a college for next season get drafted or is there collusion between the NFL and college football to not do that and thus exclude players from weighing the best offers of the pros and college against each other?
Could Sluka be holding off signing with a college to see if he gets an offer from a pro team as either a draft pick or UDFA?
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jan 5, 2024 8:27:44 GMT -5
Players who have completed their four years of college eligibility are automatically eligible for the NFL draft. Will any fifth year players signed to a college for next season get drafted or is there collusion between the NFL and college football to not do that and thus exclude players from weighing the best offers of the pros and college against each other? Could Sluka be holding off signing with a college to see if he gets an offer from a pro team as either a draft pick or UDFA?
I know a lot of rules have changed as far as the NCAA in recent years but I'm fairly certain you still can't do this.
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Post by hc1996 on Jan 5, 2024 8:34:20 GMT -5
I think he's basically locked in to JMU at this point. All the big time programs are penciling in their guys already. Unless another lower level FBS school with some serious NIL money comes along, he's gonna be at JMU. I hear the D'Amelio family has raised a ton of money for UConn. Maybe he could be the darling of Connecticut next year and work his way into TikTok stardom as well with the D'Amelios help.
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Post by newfieguy74 on Jan 5, 2024 8:51:50 GMT -5
I think he's basically locked in to JMU at this point. All the big time programs are penciling in their guys already. Unless another lower level FBS school with some serious NIL money comes along, he's gonna be at JMU. I hear the D'Amelio family has raised a ton of money for UConn. Maybe he could be the darling of Connecticut next year and work his way into TikTok stardom as well with the D'Amelios help. I live in CT. I hope he can do better than UConn.
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