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Post by sader1970 on Jan 2, 2024 15:51:55 GMT -5
Or college football after WWII. 🇺🇸
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Post by Chu Chu on Jan 2, 2024 15:52:36 GMT -5
Love everything Matt has done at and for Holy Cross (perhaps excepting stepping out of bounds in Alumni Stadium and and interception or two) but my sense of fair play screams that I don't want him back next season for Joe Pesansky's sake. Joe deserves his time under center as the #1 guy. He's paid his dues. Besides, I'd love for Matt to show what he can do on a larger stage which will reflect back well on Holy Cross. I believe that Joe P has proven himself, and that he deserves to be our guy going forward next season.
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Post by hc1996 on Jan 2, 2024 15:54:43 GMT -5
Love everything Matt has done at and for Holy Cross (perhaps excepting stepping out of bounds in Alumni Stadium and and interception or two) but my sense of fair play screams that I don't want him back next season for Joe Pesansky's sake. Joe deserves his time under center as the #1 guy. He's paid his dues. Besides, I'd love for Matt to show what he can do on a larger stage which will reflect back well on Holy Cross. I believe that Joe P has proven himself, and that he deserves to be our guy going forward next season. He sure does have an arm! I'm really looking forward to next season. Can't wait for the portal and coaching stuff to get ironed out soon.
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Post by WCHC Sports on Jan 2, 2024 16:50:28 GMT -5
Don't confuse this with college hockey. The pay is so good, and you're on a college campus, it's probably better than being in the real world and in the NFL.
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Post by purplehaze on Jan 2, 2024 17:31:48 GMT -5
Rutgers was a rumored landing spot for Matt but Minnesota qb Athan Kaliakmanis with 2 years left has committed to Rutgers. The fact that Matt has only one year to play is a sticky issue for him
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 2, 2024 17:36:56 GMT -5
Absolutely no inside information but my prediction is Matt joins the Chesney-Dobbs team at JMU and bring “the holy trinity” (forgive me Lord) to Virginia.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jan 2, 2024 17:52:22 GMT -5
Given the glut of QBs still in the portal (not necessarily the highest rated guys), we may very well be in a position where the supply exceeds the FBS demand. Sounds crazy but perhaps a FCS school (Villanova?) is looking for a running QB with one year of availability arriving in the summer. I think I would throw up if Sluka ended up at another FCS school.
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Post by hcpride on Jan 2, 2024 20:12:50 GMT -5
This is a few days old but it seems a common sentiment amongst JMU fans: Keep an eye on Holy Cross’ Matthew Sluka and Albany’s Reese Poffenbarger as possible additions via the portal if McCloud leaves. Sluka has one year of eligibility left, while Poffenbarger has two. Sluka is an elite running quarterback, while Poffenbarger is a prolific passer with decent athleticism.jmusportsnews.com/2023/12/29/what-does-jmu-footballs-offense-need-in-the-transfer-portal/Because of the brand new double-transfer undergraduate rule, guys like Poffenbarger have entered the portal (probably to Sluka’s detriment).
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Post by 78purple on Jan 2, 2024 21:37:55 GMT -5
Don't confuse this with college hockey. The pay is so good, and you're on a college campus, it's probably better than being in the real world and in the NFL. Don't rule out Marvin Harrison, Jr doing exactly that......
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Post by hc69 on Jan 3, 2024 11:19:26 GMT -5
The pay is so good, and you're on a college campus, it's probably better than being in the real world and in the NFL. Don't rule out Marvin Harrison, Jr doing exactly that...... Not happening. He's a top five pick. He's looking at roughly a $6 million per year contract and a $20 million signing bonus. Because the contract increases by about 25% per year for the first four years, the four year value of the contract is about $30 million, plus the signing bonus.
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Post by hc1996 on Jan 3, 2024 11:35:39 GMT -5
Seems almost certain that Sluka will wind up at JMU at this point. I'm sure he'll do really well and it's probably a good move for him to follow Ches, but this result will feel a little anticlimactic for me. I would love nothing more that to see him light things up at a P5 school next this fall.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jan 3, 2024 11:42:48 GMT -5
Seems almost certain that Sluka will wind up at JMU at this point. I'm sure he'll do really well and it's probably a good move for him to follow Ches, but this result will feel a little anticlimactic for me. I would love nothing more that to see him light things up at a P5 school next this fall. **P4 Bye-bye Pac 12.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jan 3, 2024 11:44:21 GMT -5
Don't rule out Marvin Harrison, Jr doing exactly that...... Not happening. He's a top five pick. He's looking at roughly a $6 million per year contract and a $20 million signing bonus. Because the contract increases by about 25% per year for the first four years, the four year value of the contract is about $30 million, plus the signing bonus. And delaying the start of your NFL career also doesn't delay the end of it. You unfortunately can't slow the aging process down by staying in college one more year. So, by staying in college an extra year, you shorten your time window to make NFL $$$.
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Post by hc1998 on Jan 3, 2024 12:29:45 GMT -5
Not happening. He's a top five pick. He's looking at roughly a $6 million per year contract and a $20 million signing bonus. Because the contract increases by about 25% per year for the first four years, the four year value of the contract is about $30 million, plus the signing bonus. And delaying the start of your NFL career also doesn't delay the end of it. You unfortunately can't slow the aging process down by staying in college one more year. So, by staying in college an extra year, you shorten your time window to make NFL $$$. That only matters if NFL $$$ > NCAA $$$. Admittedly this article is heavy on speculation and conjecture, but if true, what's the down side to staying? Barring injury they will still get the same rookie pay scale the following year, bleacherreport.com/articles/10100189-report-harrison-jr-henderson-offered-nil-deals-rivaling-1st-round-nfl-draft-money
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jan 3, 2024 12:59:01 GMT -5
And delaying the start of your NFL career also doesn't delay the end of it. You unfortunately can't slow the aging process down by staying in college one more year. So, by staying in college an extra year, you shorten your time window to make NFL $$$. That only matters if NFL $$$ > NCAA $$$. Admittedly this article is heavy on speculation and conjecture, but if true, what's the down side to staying? Barring injury they will still get the same rookie pay scale the following year, bleacherreport.com/articles/10100189-report-harrison-jr-henderson-offered-nil-deals-rivaling-1st-round-nfl-draft-moneyThat part is true. If you expect to make more in college, then obviously stay in college. Plenty of players who will do really well with NIL won't even play a regular season NFL snap. But IF you will be slotted to make more in the NFL, there's no reason to stay. Yes, you'll still be on the rookie scale either way. But your body isn't going to stop aging because you stayed in college an extra year. If you're going to be done at age 32 regardless, staying in school an extra year means 1 less year making the maximum amount of $$$ you could've potentially made. That's crazy how much $$$ TOSU boosters are able to bring in for these guys. Will big-time boosters be able to keep up with this cash flow forever or will something have to give? While it might not be a pure zero-sum game, you'd think some of the money going towards NIL deals will ultimately have to come from the same pot that traditionally has gone towards coaches' salaries, facilities, travel expenses, recruiting budgets, etc.
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Post by hc1998 on Jan 3, 2024 13:05:42 GMT -5
If we were talking MLB or NBA, I'd agree with you...but in the NFL without guaranteed contracts, you are going to stop getting paid when you stop being productive, which, as you point out, likely happens the same time regardless of when you leave college. As many players' most productive seasons could fall under the rookie pay scale, isn't there an argument to getting paid at the rookie scale (albeit in college) and then starting your rookie contract one year later at a higher scale because the slots went up? Not to mention, not necessarily with Harrison, but with Henderson, his draft slot could drastically improve with the extra year of college thereby increasing his rookie NFL pay. Basically letting him get a new contract after what would have been his rookie year.
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Post by newadvisor on Jan 3, 2024 15:59:23 GMT -5
Don't rule out Marvin Harrison, Jr doing exactly that...... Not happening. He's a top five pick. He's looking at roughly a $6 million per year contract and a $20 million signing bonus. Because the contract increases by about 25% per year for the first four years, the four year value of the contract is about $30 million, plus the signing bonus. If Marvin can get anything north of 10 mill for 12 games stay in college and collect. Only 20 mill for sure if he heads to NFL playing 17 plus games over 4 years, not to mention if they tag him for the fifth. He is an anomaly though compared to others in college right now. Bowers from Georgia could probably do the same except he just announced he's headed to the NFL yesterday.
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Post by hc69 on Jan 3, 2024 16:24:09 GMT -5
Not happening. He's a top five pick. He's looking at roughly a $6 million per year contract and a $20 million signing bonus. Because the contract increases by about 25% per year for the first four years, the four year value of the contract is about $30 million, plus the signing bonus. If Marvin can get anything north of 10 mill for 12 games stay in college and collect. Only 20 mill for sure if he heads to NFL playing 17 plus games over 4 years, not to mention if they tag him for the fifth. He is an anomaly though compared to others in college right now. Bowers from Georgia could probably do the same except he just announced he's headed to the NFL yesterday. Here's a question, and if you search hard enough you can find the the answer: In the past five years, how many first round draft choices have failed to play (or be paid while injured) for at least two years? On the other hand, how many potential first round picks have dropped out of the first round because of an injury suffered in their last year of college? Hint: #2 is significantly larger than #1.
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Post by hc1996 on Jan 3, 2024 16:30:46 GMT -5
We should get this thread back on the topic of Sluka. Anyone hearing UConn??
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Post by 78purple on Jan 3, 2024 19:29:36 GMT -5
Don't rule out Marvin Harrison, Jr doing exactly that...... Not happening. He's a top five pick. He's looking at roughly a $6 million per year contract and a $20 million signing bonus. Because the contract increases by about 25% per year for the first four years, the four year value of the contract is about $30 million, plus the signing bonus. He could make that with NIL.....
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Post by southernsader on Jan 3, 2024 20:51:04 GMT -5
Doesn't seem anything else makes as much sense as JMU. Chesney obviously knows what he can do and where else in FBS might he have a chance to start without competing in the spring?
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Post by 78purple on Jan 3, 2024 22:21:02 GMT -5
Doesn't seem anything else makes as much sense as JMU. Chesney obviously knows what he can do and where else in FBS might he have a chance to start without competing in the spring? No guarantees...No guarantees Ches will simply anoint Sluka as the starter without competition....which is why Sluka would be well advised to look elsewhere, or to return to HC under a new regime....the NFL will find you if you're good enough....ask Wentz or Stick
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Post by southernsader on Jan 3, 2024 22:34:08 GMT -5
Of course no guarantees - and I love Sluka to death for all he has done for us - but he is not an NFL QB - just want to see him have a chance to start and enjoy success - somewhere else - this is Joe P's time at HC.
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Post by 78purple on Jan 3, 2024 22:36:51 GMT -5
Of course no guarantees - and I love Sluka to death for all he has done for us - but he is not an NFL QB - just want to see him have a chance to start and enjoy success - somewhere else - this is Joe P's time at HC. completely agree re: Joe P's time
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Post by hcpride on Jan 3, 2024 23:21:52 GMT -5
Of course no guarantees - and I love Sluka to death for all he has done for us - but he is not an NFL QB - just want to see him have a chance to start and enjoy success - somewhere else - this is Joe P's time at HC. completely agree re: Joe P's time If the PL tosses its silly restrictions on ordinary redshirts, Joe P can have 2 more seasons at HC.
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