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Post by sader1970 on May 27, 2024 12:38:28 GMT -5
Geographic & natural rivalries A revolutionary idea!
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Post by gks on May 28, 2024 8:25:41 GMT -5
Geographic & natural rivalries A revolutionary idea! While we mock other leagues for having far-fetched rivalries HC has forced 'rivalries' with Lehigh, Lafayette and Bucknell. Neither are geographic nor natural. The awful bus rides to these places are equivalent or worse than plane trips of leagues people criticize.
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Post by jkh67 on May 28, 2024 8:54:07 GMT -5
They certainly aren’t against facing the PL in football (as it has been 2 or 3 teams per year recently…this year just 1 although it is the long slog to Colgate). As the CAA continues to change there are is a greater and greater chance Nova looks around at their league competition and wonders why they’re not with the more similar and nearby (ish) schools in the PL. Why they don't follow Delaware, JMU, UConn, UMass to G-5? They never had attendance like Delaware and JMU and don't have a whole state behind them like Delaware and UConn, and they aren't a State University like the four who moved up? A big problem would likely be stadium size...though they might be able to make an arrangement with Penn to share Franklin Field.
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Post by hc1996 on May 28, 2024 9:01:04 GMT -5
Why they don't follow Delaware, JMU, UConn, UMass to G-5? They never had attendance like Delaware and JMU and don't have a whole state behind them like Delaware and UConn, and they aren't a State University like the four who moved up? A big problem would likely be stadium size...though they might be able to make an arrangement with Penn to share Franklin Field. Not sure any program is looking at UConn and UMass and thinking "hmmmm that seems like something to aspire to".
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Post by nycrusader2010 on May 28, 2024 9:44:05 GMT -5
While we mock other leagues for having far-fetched rivalries HC has forced 'rivalries' with Lehigh, Lafayette and Bucknell. Neither are geographic nor natural. The awful bus rides to these places are equivalent or worse than plane trips of leagues people criticize. I disagree. At least we chose to play in a league of similar like minded schools. And in a league where stability is a thing.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on May 28, 2024 9:49:11 GMT -5
Villanova already looked into going FBS in early 2010s right before the Big East split. They would've played at the Philadelphia Union soccer stadium.
Only way I see them re-opening that door is when something goes down with the ACC. Would they consider leaving Big East to join forces with the likes of Pitt, Syracuse, BC, Duke, Wake Forest and Georgia Tech? UConn would be in that conversation too if it happened.
Highly doubt it though.
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Post by gks on May 28, 2024 11:10:44 GMT -5
While we mock other leagues for having far-fetched rivalries HC has forced 'rivalries' with Lehigh, Lafayette and Bucknell. Neither are geographic nor natural. The awful bus rides to these places are equivalent or worse than plane trips of leagues people criticize. I disagree. At least we chose to play in a league of similar like minded schools. And in a league where stability is a thing. Don't all schools 'choose' to play in the league they're in? Don't remember Texas being forced to join the SEC or Rutgers the Big Ten.
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Post by longsuffering on May 28, 2024 13:52:46 GMT -5
I disagree. At least we chose to play in a league of similar like minded schools. And in a league where stability is a thing. Don't all schools 'choose' to play in the league they're in? Don't remember Texas being forced to join the SEC or Rutgers the Big Ten. Yes, the schools choose. A-list universities like Stanford, Cal, UCLA, Southern Cal "choosing" to blow up the Pac-10/12 is still a head scratcher. It would be tough for HC to resist that type of TV money also but they won't have to deal with that temptation.
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Post by bfoley82 on May 28, 2024 14:03:55 GMT -5
While we mock other leagues for having far-fetched rivalries HC has forced 'rivalries' with Lehigh, Lafayette and Bucknell. Neither are geographic nor natural. The awful bus rides to these places are equivalent or worse than plane trips of leagues people criticize. And Lehigh, Lafayette, and Bucknell complain about the awful bus rides to Worcester to play at a stadium where they have halftime in a tent....
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Post by nycrusader2010 on May 28, 2024 14:35:51 GMT -5
I disagree. At least we chose to play in a league of similar like minded schools. And in a league where stability is a thing. Don't all schools 'choose' to play in the league they're in? Don't remember Texas being forced to join the SEC or Rutgers the Big Ten. Fair point. Though I wouldn't quite say that Stanford and Cal "chose" to play in the ACC, for example. It was the one palatable option remaining.
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Post by timholycross on May 29, 2024 7:57:42 GMT -5
Don't all schools 'choose' to play in the league they're in? Don't remember Texas being forced to join the SEC or Rutgers the Big Ten. ; Fair point. Though I wouldn't quite say that Stanford and Cal "chose" to play in the ACC, for example. It was the one palatable option remaining. Still can't believe the Pac 12's final days coincided with the death of it's greatest advocate; Bill "Conference of Champions" Walton.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on May 29, 2024 8:40:41 GMT -5
; Fair point. Though I wouldn't quite say that Stanford and Cal "chose" to play in the ACC, for example. It was the one palatable option remaining. Still can't believe the Pac 12's final days coincided with the death of it's greatest advocate; Bill "Conference of Champions" Walton. Maybe one day it will come back. Not in football but in other sports. When big time college football goes full professional, maybe what's left of conference structure gets blown up. Then conference realignment would become asymptotic to basketball instead of football. Im sure most of the Pac 12 schools would want to remain together in all other sports. Then maybe you end up with a league like this: USC, UCLA, Stanford, Cal, Oregon, OSU, Washington, WSU, Gonzaga, St. Mary's, San Diego State, UNLV
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Post by hchoops on May 29, 2024 8:54:28 GMT -5
It seems as if now the power 4 are professional football and hoops players. They will be salaried starting this season. That makes them professionals.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on May 29, 2024 8:58:28 GMT -5
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Post by rgs318 on May 29, 2024 9:12:31 GMT -5
Don't all schools 'choose' to play in the league they're in? Don't remember Texas being forced to join the SEC or Rutgers the Big Ten. Yes, the schools choose. A-list universities like Stanford, Cal, UCLA, Southern Cal "choosing" to blow up the Pac-10/12 is still a head scratcher. It would be tough for HC to resist that type of TV money also but they won't have to deal with that temptation. Thus, in a very roundabout way, not joining the Big East (or being considered any longer for membership) is an answer to our prayers. Since we are no longer in consideration we have apparently been granted the "lead us not into temptation" we ask for in the Lord's Prayer. No?
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Post by nycrusader2010 on May 29, 2024 11:30:14 GMT -5
It seems as if now the power 4 are professional football and hoops players. They will be salaried starting this season. That makes them professionals. And about to be Power 3 in football, if not ultimately a conglomerated super league. I see what's left of the ACC in 5 years becoming equivalent of a top G5 football conference but a basketball Power conference when the big football schools leave. Looking at Duke, Syracuse, Pitt, Georgia Tech, Wake, BC. Possibly UConn would join this.
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Post by efg72 on Jun 27, 2024 16:00:34 GMT -5
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Post by fillfittonfield on Jun 28, 2024 15:51:18 GMT -5
Bring back MAAC football!!!
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Post by efg72 on Jul 2, 2024 12:57:16 GMT -5
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Post by timholycross on Jul 2, 2024 13:28:50 GMT -5
Closer inspection determines it's all public universities. No ND, Stanford, NW, Vandy, BC (do not think they are all lower than 50).
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 2, 2024 13:31:38 GMT -5
Volleyball is big business in the midwest....Marquette Volleyball hosted Wisconsin last year and it outdrew every Holy Cross home football game last year.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 2, 2024 13:32:45 GMT -5
Closer inspection determines it's all public universities. No ND, Stanford, NW, Vandy, BC (do not think they are all lower than 50). The private schools don't have to share their numbers.
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Post by Ignutz on Jul 2, 2024 13:50:37 GMT -5
Volleyball is big business in the midwest....Marquette Volleyball hosted Wisconsin last year and it outdrew every Holy Cross home football game last year. And also outdrew every home football game at UNH - a school with an enrollment that's roughly five-times as large as the institution that you endeavor to disparage at every opportunity.
We all feel bad that our beloved Holy Cross has been living rent-free in your brain for all these many years.................but not really that bad.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 2, 2024 16:05:00 GMT -5
Volleyball is big business in the midwest....Marquette Volleyball hosted Wisconsin last year and it outdrew every Holy Cross home football game last year. And also outdrew every home football game at UNH - a school with an enrollment that's roughly five-times as large as the institution that you endeavor to disparage at every opportunity.
We all feel bad that our beloved Holy Cross has been living rent-free in your brain for all these many years.................but not really that bad.Weird you bring up UNH in this discussion a program that has been so much more successful in football over the last 25 seasons when compared to Holy Cross including making a semifinal in the 47 or 48th state university in terms of funding from the state.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jul 2, 2024 18:10:16 GMT -5
Foles- there’s an expression you need to digest, understand, and accept: “ a man’s got to know when to cut his losses”. Stop the nonsense- learn from yourvisits here and stop the buffoonery
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