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Post by 78purple on Mar 25, 2024 20:04:01 GMT -5
OK, enough of this, I concede that both HC games had huge audiences and that's all that counts. I certainly watched that game in 1977. I ran into Mike Vicens at Mac's Diner a few years back and told him that John Wooden said during that game that he did not realize how good "Vincennes" was. Regarding Clark and women's basketball, take a look at this recent study (March 20) from Seton Hall entitled: "Poll: Caitlin Clark Tops Basketball Popularity; Women's Tournament Likely to Break Viewer Records". I would attach it but I'm not "tech savvy". If I ever run into you at a game, I'll buy you dinner anyway. Best. The largest HC TV audience may have been football, when HC-Dartmouth was national game of the week. A network broadcast, ABC? That was the game moved from Fitton Field because there was insufficient electrical power for the broadcast trucks. That was before cable, before conferences were able to negotiate their own TV packages, before the audience was splintered with multiple games being broadcast simultaneously. We were also on an ABC game against Harvard with Pat McInally in the mid-'70's
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Post by 78purple on Mar 25, 2024 20:09:59 GMT -5
It might, because she will be the Michael Jordan of the WNBA from Day 1. At least as far as the pedestal she'll be put on by the media. Won't be easy, people will be expecting her to score 30 every game and dominate like she did college. Bar has never been set higher for an incoming WNBA player. Taurasi distant 2nd in that regard. I agree. There are a fair amount of detractors to her game (several high profile ones emerged when she was closing in on various records) but certainly the WNBA/TV execs see her as an opportunity. I’m treading lightly here but she may have significantly broader appeal than some of their other stars for a number of reasons. Soooo, her success in the WNBA is something WNBA/TV execs really really really want. Beyond that, one of Pistol Pete’s problems was the mismatch with his first team. CC is all set in that particular regard. Not a detractor of her game....but head-butting a ball in a 20 point game in the second half, acting like she is down 2 points, is just not necessary......she's too good a player
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Post by 78purple on Mar 25, 2024 20:14:57 GMT -5
My take on watching the game: - HC played their strategy early and it worked. The same strategy saw stars when the Crusaders were tired and getting diced by some really good Iowa ball movement in the second half. - HC missed a lot of free throws and layups when Iowa's two big runs occurred. The gaps grew when HC couldn't find the bottom of the net. - #15 had a bunch of turnovers when she saw the floor. Lots of giveaways. Tough game. - HC rebounding in the second half on the defensive end, whether it was position or just some tired legs, wasn't as successful. - It's a bit ridiculous to play the #1 seed in their home gym in an NCAA tournament. Neutral site-- even if closer to that team than the lower seed-- would be much more fair. - The refs were impacted by that fact, at least in the first half it seemed. HC didn't bang as much inside later in the game. - HC was still not intimidated and although the talent gap showed itself, the team stood toe-to-toe with a true #1 and it didn't look like they didn't belong on the same floor. great analysis, and agree, the home arena games for the #1 seeds has to go......it has impact on the officiating, and it virtually guarantees a # 16 win never beat a #1.......lets mimic the men's tournament and eliminate that.....( I know, UNC and Duke almost always play in Charlotte every year, but its not the same as the Dean Dome or Cameron )
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Post by HC13 on Mar 25, 2024 20:36:29 GMT -5
Won't see it for a while yet. Don't want empty arenas in those early rounds. Bad look on TV
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Post by hchoops on Mar 25, 2024 22:55:42 GMT -5
Had not known this, but just saw a photo from last week of Pres. Rougeau leaving to attend the game. Good for him.
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Post by HC13 on Mar 26, 2024 5:44:05 GMT -5
One of the great senior classes in the history of Holy Cross women’s basketball': This foursome brought Crusaders to new heights Jennifer Toland www.telegram.com/story/sports/college/2024/03/25/holy-cross-senior-foursome-left-mark-on-womens-basketball-program/73097752007/Worcester Telegram & Gazette Embracing Holy Cross’ four seniors as they came to the bench for the final time late in Saturday’s NCAA Tournament first-round game at Iowa was an emotional moment for tearful HC coach Maureen Magarity. With the resolute foursome leading the way, the No. 16 seed Crusaders gave a valiant effort against the top-seeded Hawkeyes and superstar Caitlin Clark in the 91-65 loss, and, just as Magarity knew they would, represented themselves, the program, the college, the Patriot League and the state of Massachusetts with pride. “The four seniors we have,” Magarity said after the game, “they’ve just had so many milestones, and will go down as one of the great senior classes in the history of Holy Cross women’s basketball. I’m really sad to see it come to an end, but I’m just so, so grateful for their effort. I’m just so proud of them.” Four-year seniors and tri-captains Bronagh Power-Cassidy, Janelle Allen and Cara McCormack led the Crusaders to a record of 72-41, two regular-season Patriot League titles, two PL tournament championships and three national postseason appearances (two NCAA, WNIT). Senior Callie Wright, who transferred to Holy Cross from Memphis last year, was part of the 2022-23 team that went 24-9 and tied for the second most single-season wins in program history. Wright earned a starting spot late this season. By beating Tennessee-Martin in an NCAA First Four matchup last Thursday, the Crusaders became just the second Patriot League women’s team to win an NCAA game. The 1991 HC team was the first with its victory over Maryland. Buoyed by the triumph over UT Martin and their season-long confidence, the Crusaders were not intimidated by the sold-out and partisan crowd at Carver-Hawkeye Arena on Saturday, the national TV audience watching on ABC, or the daunting task of taking on Clark, who, this season became the all-time NCAA Division 1 scoring leader. The Crusaders frustrated Clark early, and that was evident. In the first quarter, she had five points and five turnovers, and, after one, HC trailed by just two points. “I think we just wanted to be in the moment,” Power-Cassidy said, “and give everything we had every shot because they’re a phenomenal team, but we just wanted to go out playing our style of basketball and celebrating each other. We enjoy playing with each other, so I think that was the most important thing and just play fearlessly. I think we do that as a team, regardless of the stage, that’s how we want to play.” Clark finished with 27 points, 10 assists and 8 rebounds. Power-Cassidy, who was playing with a broken hand suffered in the PL final against Boston University, led HC with 19 points, 4 rebounds, 3 assists and 3 steals. “Just another reason why she is just the most incredible player I have ever coached,” Magarity said. Power-Cassidy finished her Holy Cross career with 1,425 points (15th all time), 196 3-pointers (fourth) and 37.8 3-point percentage (tied for sixth). Allen added 18 points and McCormack 11 against the Hawkeyes. Power-Cassidy, Allen and McCormack were freshmen during the abbreviated COVID season, Magarity’s first at HC, and did a terrific job cultivating the program’s competitive, supportive and successful culture. The highlight of last offseason for the Crusaders was their eight-day tour of Ireland, Power-Cassidy’s homeland, where they visited landmarks, played games against the Irish national team and a Cork club team, and spent time with Power-Cassidy’s family. Holy Cross began the 2023-24 season with a five-point loss at Boston College, and finished its nonconference schedule 6-5. The Crusaders won their first eight Patriot League games, and bounced back from a four-game losing streak in February to capture the regular-season PL title, and go on to win their 13th PL tourney championship before a spirited St. Patrick’s Day crowd at the Hart Center. “I just don’t want this season to end,” Power-Cassidy said. “I just want to keep wearing purple.” —Contact Jennifer Toland at jennifer.toland@telegram.com. Follow her on X, formerly known as Twitter, @jentolandtg.
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Post by Ignutz on Mar 26, 2024 6:44:25 GMT -5
The largest HC TV audience may have been football, when HC-Dartmouth was national game of the week. A network broadcast, ABC? That was the game moved from Fitton Field because there was insufficient electrical power for the broadcast trucks. That was before cable, before conferences were able to negotiate their own TV packages, before the audience was splintered with multiple games being broadcast simultaneously. We were also on an ABC game against Harvard with Pat McInally in the mid-'70's I believe we fumbled the opening kickoff in that Harvard game, and things went downhill from there.
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Post by timholycross on Mar 26, 2024 8:57:26 GMT -5
We were also on an ABC game against Harvard with Pat McInally in the mid-'70's I believe we fumbled the opening kickoff in that Harvard game, and things went downhill from there. I remember the Brown game on ABC in 1978, after HC started the season 5-0 (defeating Army & Tuna's Air Force among others) starting off the same way. Next thing you know, the team was 5-4 before winning the last two. Possible that the Harvard game a couple years earlier, definitely on ABC as well; followed the same sad script.
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Post by HC13 on Mar 26, 2024 10:34:07 GMT -5
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Mar 26, 2024 11:49:37 GMT -5
From a Sports Illustrated article in December 1974
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Post by Chu Chu on Mar 26, 2024 14:55:26 GMT -5
This is a great article, that really captured the spirit of our team and the course of the Iowa game. If anybody has his email address, somebody should send this to Dan Shaughnessy at the Boston Globe. They need a class in how to write a reasonable article and an accurate headline.
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Post by alum on Mar 26, 2024 15:17:03 GMT -5
I have a question about the nationally televised football games from the 70s (and I would include the Flutie game in 84 which was on ABC.) Were those actually regional games, i.e. people in other parts of the country got a different game? As far as I know, every single ABC viewer in the country received HC. v. Iowa.
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Post by ndgradbuthcfan on Mar 26, 2024 15:46:35 GMT -5
This is a great article, that really captured the spirit of our team and the course of the Iowa game. If anybody has his email address, somebody should send this to Dan Shaughnessy at the Boston Globe. They need a class in how to write a reasonable article and an accurate headline. I emailed DS after LS wrote about the "Iowa Clobbers Holy Cross" column on p.11 of the Sunday Globe, complaining about the unkind headline. He responded almost immediately and here it is: "Well, final score was a "clobbering". Headline only has a few spaces. I forgive the headline. I watched the game and was proud of our girls. Iowa will not win the NCAA. We also beat the 38.5 spread. All best. Dan"
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Post by hchoops on Mar 26, 2024 16:02:27 GMT -5
Attendance 14,324
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Post by timholycross on Mar 26, 2024 19:09:09 GMT -5
I have a question about the nationally televised football games from the 70s (and I would include the Flutie game in 84 which was on ABC.) Were those actually regional games, i.e. people in other parts of the country got a different game? As far as I know, every single ABC viewer in the country received HC. v. Iowa. The Flutie game had a chance to be more than regional, given it was the first weekend in December and, prior to the advent of conference title games, not many games scheduled on that weekend. Other than that, I'd say 100% regional. Same w/any game in the mid-to-late-60s.
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Post by timholycross on Mar 26, 2024 19:20:12 GMT -5
This is a great article, that really captured the spirit of our team and the course of the Iowa game. If anybody has his email address, somebody should send this to Dan Shaughnessy at the Boston Globe. They need a class in how to write a reasonable article and an accurate headline. I emailed DS after LS wrote about the "Iowa Clobbers Holy Cross" column on p.11 of the Sunday Globe, complaining about the unkind headline. He responded almost immediately and here it is: "Well, final score was a "clobbering". Headline only has a few spaces. I forgive the headline. I watched the game and was proud of our girls. Iowa will not win the NCAA. We also beat the 38.5 spread. All best. Dan" Don't want to pick on Dan given his recent illness (best wishes for a full recovery); but I did notice that after that Saturday in September when, for once, HC belonged on the same field as BC; he didn't write a single word about the game. One can only speculate what he would have penned if the game wasn't competitive.
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Post by purplehaze on Mar 26, 2024 19:37:03 GMT -5
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Post by Sader Fan on Mar 27, 2024 10:50:51 GMT -5
From today’s Boston Globe Attachments:
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 27, 2024 18:00:34 GMT -5
From today’s Boston Globe I wonder how big the audience would have been if Iowa (and Clark) had no opponent?
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Post by hcpride on Mar 27, 2024 19:15:49 GMT -5
From today’s Boston Globe If you thought the Iowa v Holy Cross 3.23 million network viewership was huge…: Caitlin Clark, Iowa draw record 4.9M viewers in 2nd-round NCAA win
BRISTOL, Conn. -- It didn't take long for Caitlin Clark and the Iowa Hawkeyes to break their viewing record in the women's NCAA tournament.
The Hawkeyes' 64-54 victory over West Virginia in Monday night's second-round game averaged 4.90 million viewers on ESPN, according to Nielsen, making it the most-viewed women's tournament game ever -- excluding Final Four contests and title games.
The viewership surpassed the 3.23 million who watched Iowa's first-round win over Holy Cross on Saturday on ABC.
Monday night's game is also the most-watched NCAA tournament game -- men's or women's -- on cable this year. The previous high was 4.09 million for Houston's overtime victory over Texas A&M Sunday night on TNT.
It was the fourth Iowa women's game this season, and first one on cable, where the viewer average was over 3 million. The others were on Fox, CBS and ABC...www.espn.com/womens-college-basketball/story/_/id/39822075/caitlin-clark-iowa-draw-record-49m-viewers-2nd-round-ncaa-win
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Post by lou on Mar 29, 2024 9:50:38 GMT -5
Bill Simmons on CC
“They [Iowa] are not winning the title, they’re not good enough. They’re like barely beating West Virginia. Like Holy Cross was in the game against them for 15 minutes before we stopped getting calls,” he continued.
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Post by HC92 on Mar 30, 2024 9:08:27 GMT -5
Tend to agree that Iowa’s supporting cast is not good enough to win it all. An Iowa-LSU matchup Monday night will draw ridiculous ratings if both teams win today.
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Post by timholycross on Mar 30, 2024 12:19:32 GMT -5
Bill Simmons on CC “They [Iowa] are not winning the title, they’re not good enough. They’re like barely beating West Virginia. Like Holy Cross was in the game against them for 15 minutes before we stopped getting calls,” he continued. So HC played well enough that Bill referred to them as "We"? Unlike HC vs SIU in 2007 where he dumped a steaming pile on RW and company.
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Post by hcpride on Mar 31, 2024 6:25:09 GMT -5
Terrific passing display by CC (29 pts, 15 assists) in Iowa’s easy win over Colorado in the Sweet Sixteen. LSU also won. Their game Monday will draw plenty of viewers.
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Post by Ignutz on Apr 1, 2024 15:38:06 GMT -5
Taking a peek at the women's bracket, and how the teams got to where they are today.
Quick quiz question: What was the closest scoring of the four #1 vs. #16 games? Everyone gets three guesses, but the first two don't count.
One clue: The team that won that first-round game earned its Elite Eight spot over the weekend by beating its opponent (the #5 seed) by a wider margin than they won their first round (vs. #16) game.
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