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Post by joutsHC77 on Dec 21, 2017 16:11:46 GMT -5
Things will get better with Chesney on board now. I believe it. It was time for a new regime to add vitality.
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Post by hcpride on Dec 21, 2017 18:04:12 GMT -5
Couldn't help noticing a total of 0 of our recruits thus far are from New England. In a way that makes sense given our large number of colleges and our relative lack of quality. But in a way it is disappointing that a region that knows us best doesn't yield any recruits for us. Almost a shutout of an entire Northeast region as only 1 recruit is from New Jersey and 0 recruits are from New York.
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Post by hchoops on Dec 21, 2017 18:06:01 GMT -5
with only 10 signees, that will change
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Post by sader1970 on Dec 21, 2017 18:08:08 GMT -5
Expect to see more players from PA in the future.
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Post by richh on Dec 21, 2017 18:38:19 GMT -5
Ny Penn and Nj have over a 1000 HS teams. All 3 yield more academically qualified recruits . Makes sense to recruit there extensively rather than New England. It may help more to recruit more heavily in Publc schools. The prepondetance of offer to Catholic HS prospects, altho understandable , really limits your pool of prospects.
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Post by 6sader7 on Dec 21, 2017 18:49:55 GMT -5
I would be more than happy to have majority of HC football players coming from PA/ Ohio, NY, NJ, MD, Fla, TX
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Post by ncaam on Dec 21, 2017 18:54:53 GMT -5
Ny Penn and Nj have over a 1000 HS teams. All 3 yield more academically qualified recruits . Makes sense to recruit there extensively rather than New England. It may help more to recruit more heavily in Publc schools. The prepondetance of offer to Catholic HS prospects, altho understandable , really limits your pool of prospects. How many Catholic school kids on the Lehigh roster?
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Post by hcgrad94 on Dec 21, 2017 19:06:43 GMT -5
The days of Catholic school kids only looking at Catholic colleges and Yankee Prep school kids not looking at Cathoilc schools ended two generations ago.
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Post by breezy on Dec 21, 2017 19:23:20 GMT -5
Offers:
Massachusetts -- 1 (originally committed to UMass, now committed to Harvard) Connecticut -- 3 (all committed to other schools) New York -- 8 (all committed to other schools) New Jersey -- 6 (1 committed to Holy Cross; all others committed to other schools) Pennsylvania -- 15 (1 committed to Holy Cross; 13 committed to other schools; 1 still uncommitted)
First half of recruiting season is over; there will certainly be more offers in the second half.
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Post by hcpride on Dec 22, 2017 8:44:56 GMT -5
hcpride : Couldn't help noticing a total of 0 of our recruits thus far are from New England. In a way that makes sense given our large number of colleges and our relative lack of quality. But in a way it is disappointing that a region that knows us best doesn't yield any recruits for us. Almost a shutout of an entire Northeast region as only 1 recruit is from New Jersey and 0 recruits are from New York. with only 10 signees, that will change I know it has just been 11 signed commits. And we will make offers going forward (to kids - who for whatever reason - did not commit during the first period). Beyond that, Adam Raine (who backed out of his HC verbal - to go with Yale - one week or so prior to signing day, 247 profile and list of other offers is here) is a talented recruit I hoped would stick. Although from England (not New England) he was spending his prep year at Berkshire (MA) under head coach Mike McCabe who played football at Holy Cross (class of 2011). It is just disappointing not to grab an FCS kid playing for an ex- Holy Cross gridder going to school right here in Massachusetts (I know, I know, it is Yale, HYP is mopping us up nowadays, and I don't blame HC for this miss.)
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Post by joe on Dec 22, 2017 8:52:52 GMT -5
How come we still use the acronym HYP, isn't it really HYPPCCDB who have been recruiting against us? Maybe we should change HYP to A8.
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Post by richh on Dec 22, 2017 9:05:13 GMT -5
How come we still use the acronym HYP, isn't it really HYPPCCDB who have been recruiting against us? Maybe we should change HYP to A8. Perhaps someday but not yet. HYP are basically full schollie programs with no roster or schollie caps. Those 3 essentially have unlimited funding. Penn is close but the rest of the Ivies ,albeit they do.try to match HYP offers, have significantly less funding. While PL struggles vs HYP we do quite well vs the rest..
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Post by richh on Dec 22, 2017 9:09:40 GMT -5
Ny Penn and Nj have over a 1000 HS teams. All 3 yield more academically qualified recruits . Makes sense to recruit there extensively rather than New England. It may help more to recruit more heavily in Publc schools. The prepondetance of offer to Catholic HS prospects, altho understandable , really limits your pool of prospects. How many Catholic school kids on the Lehigh roster? 18 as of today
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Post by ncaam on Dec 22, 2017 9:14:10 GMT -5
Stop poaching! 😢
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Dec 22, 2017 17:10:18 GMT -5
How come we still use the acronym HYP, isn't it really HYPPCCDB who have been recruiting against us? Maybe we should change HYP to A8. HYP offers the most generous fin aid. For example, Harvard does not include home equity in its financial aid determinations, Brown does (or did). college.harvard.edu/financial-aid/net-price-calculator^^^^ I used this Harvard net price calculator to see how much I would get in financial aid, with a family income of $117,500 and cash and investment assets of $30,000. The answer was I would pay $12,800, Harvard picked up about $57,000, and no loans. (The net price calculator was probably based on the old tax law.)
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Post by HC92 on Dec 22, 2017 17:17:54 GMT -5
Remind me to pay off my house and quit my job before any of my kids go to Harvard.
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Post by hcpride on Dec 22, 2017 17:33:43 GMT -5
HYP simply have a vastly different financial aid scale from HC and other schools. And PP gives a good example (remember, in some parts of the country 117K pre tax goes a very long way...and HYP students with family incomes just a bit lower and no real savings pay essentially 0).
Colgate (16 signed ) and Lehigh (13 signed) and Lafayette (14 signed) fans seem to think they are about done for the 2018 season. Adding maybe a few more recruits at most. Do we have any idea how many more recruits we are looking to sign during the second signing period?
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Post by breezy on Dec 22, 2017 19:06:21 GMT -5
2017 roster = PL maximum of 90
Graduating seniors (subject to any medical redshirt 5th-year seniors*) = 26
Early signees = 11
Roster space available for additional players (may include transfers) = 15
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Post by HCFC45 on Dec 22, 2017 21:28:18 GMT -5
Not widely known but at Harvard, convenient "marriages" have significant benefits....
For example, if I am a Freshman and another Freshman agrees to marry me, our income is virtually nothing because we are both students! Therefore our "family" income is well below the number that dictates whether we pay or not. So, after 4 years we divorce, go our separate ways and had 4 years "free" at Harvard!
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 22, 2017 21:33:29 GMT -5
Not widely known but at Harvard, convenient "marriages" have significant benefits....
For example, if I am a Freshman and another Freshman agrees to marry me, our income is virtually nothing because we are both students! Therefore our "family" income is well below the number that dictates whether we pay or not. So, after 4 years we divorce, go our separate ways and had 4 years "free" at Harvard! Is this something theoretical, or do you know that this sort of thing is actually being done?
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Post by hcpride on Dec 22, 2017 21:44:43 GMT -5
Not widely known but at Harvard, convenient "marriages" have significant benefits....
For example, if I am a Freshman and another Freshman agrees to marry me, our income is virtually nothing because we are both students! Therefore our "family" income is well below the number that dictates whether we pay or not. So, after 4 years we divorce, go our separate ways and had 4 years "free" at Harvard! Cool story. Did you guys have kids?
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Post by HCFC45 on Dec 22, 2017 21:45:07 GMT -5
Not widely known but at Harvard, convenient "marriages" have significant benefits....
For example, if I am a Freshman and another Freshman agrees to marry me, our income is virtually nothing because we are both students! Therefore our "family" income is well below the number that dictates whether we pay or not. So, after 4 years we divorce, go our separate ways and had 4 years "free" at Harvard! Is this something theoretical, or do you know that this sort of thing is actually being done? I have heard that it does happen!
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 23, 2017 12:08:38 GMT -5
Is this something theoretical, or do you know that this sort of thing is actually being done? I have heard that it does happen! Ouch! Tough to compete with that...scholarships with benefits.
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Post by breezy on Dec 23, 2017 20:43:45 GMT -5
Here is where things stand with respect to 2018 recruiting (subject, of course, to available public sources). As of December 20, 2017 -- 119 known offers, 11 committed to HC, 89 committed to other schools, 19 offerees still uncommitted. A look at the schools chosen by the 89 recruits who turned down HC demonstrates, in my opinion, that HC is aiming high and is not just going after the "low-hanging fruit." Harvard -- 5 Yale -- 4 Navy -- 4 William & Mary -- 4 Delaware -- 4 Princeton -- 4 North Dakota State -- 3 Two each to -- Buffalo, Purdue, Richmond, Bowling Green, Wake Forest, Toledo, Charlotte, Temple, Army, Villanova, Air Force, Lehigh, Fordham. One each to -- Tulsa, Arkansas State, Penn State, UCLA, Furman, Boston College, UConn, Cincinnati, Arizona, Wisconsin, Houston, Ball State, UAB, Virginia, Michigan State, USF, Wofford, Central Arkansas, Penn, Missouri State, UMass, Columbia, Lafayette, Rice, Troy, Nevada, Cornell, Bucknell, Washington State, Ohio State, Colorado, Liberty, Sacred Heart, Georgetown, Liberty. Update: I just saw that OL Patrick Walsh, Wachusett Regional HS, Holden, MA, has switched his commitment from UMass to Harvard. That will change the summary quoted above. Another Update: ATH Prudy Calderon of Texas has switched his commitment from Rice to Yale. With these two updates, Harvard now has 6 and Yale now has 5. UMass and Rice can be eliminated from the "One each" list.
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Post by richh on Dec 24, 2017 11:35:26 GMT -5
A Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all. Undoubtedly the most psychotic board in the PL and absolutely the most entertaining . Best of luck with HC Chesney. I expect he will get team out of the doldrums.
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