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Post by HC92 on Dec 24, 2017 11:47:39 GMT -5
Thanks, richh! That’s the nicest thing any fan of another school has ever said about us. Merry Christmas to you and yours.
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Post by hcpride on Dec 24, 2017 17:17:33 GMT -5
A Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all. Undoubtedly the most psychotic board in the PL and absolutely the most entertaining . Best of luck with HC Chesney. I expect he will get team out of the doldrums. I prefer delusional. In any case, Merry Xmas.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Dec 24, 2017 18:04:29 GMT -5
Psychotic or delusional??? My daughter, HC 2009, is a psychologist so I’ll press her for the final expert determination on this....
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Post by hc87 on Dec 24, 2017 21:51:15 GMT -5
I prefer the moniker "delusionally psychotic" but that's a personal preference....Merry Christmas all!!!
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Dec 27, 2017 14:32:19 GMT -5
Is this something theoretical, or do you know that this sort of thing is actually being done? I have heard that it does happen! I know of one instance where it happened, a football player. However, he was not a freshman when he married. And he was required to live off-campus. So his fin aid package may not have covered the off-campus residency.
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Post by hcpride on Dec 27, 2017 15:54:20 GMT -5
I have heard that it does happen! I know of one instance where it happened, a football player. However, he was not a freshman when he married. And he was required to live off-campus. So his fin aid package may not have covered the off-campus residency. I think Russell Wilson was married while he was QB at Wisconsin and he lived off campus. But I have no idea of the impact on his scholarship.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Dec 27, 2017 16:11:35 GMT -5
I know of one instance where it happened, a football player. However, he was not a freshman when he married. And he was required to live off-campus. So his fin aid package may not have covered the off-campus residency. I think Russell Wilson was married while he was QB at Wisconsin and he lived off campus. But I have no idea of the impact on his scholarship. I believe most schools allow a scholarship stipend for the cost the dorm that can be used for off-campus housing. HC does not allow this.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Dec 27, 2017 19:29:49 GMT -5
At Harvard, 98 percent of the undergraduates live in Harvard housing. An article in the Crimson from several years ago suggests that Harvard does not offer much, if anything, in the way of financial aid covering room and board if one lives off-campus. This probably might not matter if the amount of financial aid offered did not cover room and board.
If I correctly recall the case of the Harvard football player, I remember thinking that he was probably receiving zero financial aid (he had done postgraduate years at a prep school), and once married, his parent's income no longer was a factor, and he could apply for financial aid, and receive a substantial amount.
The more I think about it now, there are likely significant restrictions on the amount offered. Otherwise, the financial aid system would be gamed to a fare-thee-well.
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Post by hcpride on Dec 27, 2017 19:44:44 GMT -5
PP : I assumed you were referencing a hazy memory/urban legend of one possibly married and wealthy Harvard football player. And not some sort of secret trend nobody else knows about. (FYI I believe at Yale married undergraduates still fall under parent income rules in any case. One suspects there are essentially no married undergraduate HYP couples...as is likely the case at Holy Cross also.)
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Dec 28, 2017 8:07:03 GMT -5
PP : I assumed you were referencing a hazy memory/urban legend of one possibly married and wealthy Harvard football player. And not some sort of secret trend nobody else knows about. (FYI I believe at Yale married undergraduates still fall under parent income rules in any case. One suspects there are essentially no married undergraduate HYP couples...as is likely the case at Holy Cross also.) According to the Crimson several years ago, there were 27 married undergraduates, or about 0.4 percent of the U/G population. So not a trend. The Crimson profiled three of the 27, the conclusion I drew was that being married was a disadvantage in many ways; e,g., in the era of the swipe card, their cards provided limited/no access to Harvard's non academic buildings. This particular player's story stuck in my mind because he really, really wanted to play football for Harvard. He applied senior year of high school, rejected. Went to prep school for a year, applied again. Rejected. Went to prep school for a second year. Applied again, accepted. He surely was not a low low band type of athlete, nor was he a high band type of scholar.
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Post by hcpride on Dec 28, 2017 8:26:45 GMT -5
PP : I assumed you were referencing a hazy memory/urban legend of one possibly married and wealthy Harvard football player. And not some sort of secret trend nobody else knows about. (FYI I believe at Yale married undergraduates still fall under parent income rules in any case. One suspects there are essentially no married undergraduate HYP couples...as is likely the case at Holy Cross also.) According to the Crimson several years ago, there were 27 married undergraduates, or about 0.4 percent of the U/G population. So not a trend. The Crimson profiled three of the 27, the conclusion I drew was that being married was a disadvantage in many ways; e,g., in the era of the swipe card, their cards provided limited/no access to Harvard's non academic buildings. This particular player's story stuck in my mind because he really, really wanted to play football for Harvard. He applied senior year of high school, rejected. Went to prep school for a year, applied again. Rejected. Went to prep school for a second year. Applied again, accepted. He surely was not a low low band type of athlete, nor was he a high band type of scholar. The original poster ( HCFC45 ) suggested Harvard undergraduates married to each other (!) as a way of successfully circumventing the financial aid system. Beyond the dubious prospects for circumvention success, suspect a number MUCH lower than 27 for that category of married undergraduates at Harvard. (Plus 27 is an odd - as opposed to even - number but you never know nowadays.) If the outlier you recall went thru all the steps (applied three different years, spent not one but two years in prep school beyond high school, etc.) you noted to play Harvard football and then married another Harvard undergraduate to (unsuccessfully, one imagines) somehow game the financial aid system then that surely was a very unusual fellow. Not to mention quite determined and quite goal-focused.
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Post by sader1970 on Dec 28, 2017 8:44:58 GMT -5
Hey, look at the bright side. If all Harvard students married each other, theoretically it would reduce the number of legacies by half! 😊
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Post by breezy on Dec 28, 2017 21:20:42 GMT -5
The first part of the recruiting season ended with Holy Cross getting Letters of Intent from 11 players. Part two begins now. VERBAL COMMIT #12. WR MIKEY SPECA, 5-10, 165, Choate Rosemary Hall HS, Wallingford, CT. (Previously at South Fayette HS, South Fayette, PA) Twitter: @mikeyspeca18 Hudl highlights (Choate): www.hudl.com/profile/2654077/mikey-speca-jrHudl highlights (South Fayette): www.hudl.com/profile/2035268/mikey-specaAccording to his Twitter page, he had an offer from San Diego
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Dec 28, 2017 21:24:54 GMT -5
Just plain "Holy Cross"--nuff said
prior to Choate he played at South Fayette HS in PA--
In junior & senior seasons
39 receptions for 629 yards and 3 TD's
49 carries for 542 yards and 9 TD's
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Post by hchoops on Dec 28, 2017 23:12:01 GMT -5
Breezy, Was Speca a recent offer or one by the previous staff ?
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Post by deep Purple on Dec 29, 2017 0:03:40 GMT -5
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Post by hcpride on Dec 29, 2017 6:55:57 GMT -5
His junior year (May, 2016) ran an 11.22 100M (5th place) at the AAA championships in Western PA. 100 meters (11.10) -- 1. Zane Dudek, Armstrong, 10.88. 2. Micah Watts, West Mifflin, 10.95. 3. Jermiah Younger, Central Catholic, 11.12. 4. Alex Trower, Penn Hills, 11.15. 5. Mikey Speca, South Fayette, 11.22. Interestingly, Yale's super frosh, Zane Dudek ( here), won in 10.88. Also his HS junior year. He was Ivy Rookie of the Year and Ivy leading rusher.
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Post by breezy on Dec 29, 2017 8:14:51 GMT -5
Breezy, Was Speca a recent offer or one by the previous staff ? I don't know. This is the first time his name has appeared in anything regarding HC football recruiting. My guess -- and it is only a guess -- is that he was on HC's radar but Coach Chesney made the decision to make him an offer. I should point out that Asst Coach Chris Smith has been acting as Recruiting Coordinator and he will continue on the staff under Coach Chesney, and I strongly suspect that Coach Smith had assembled the information that led Coach Chesney to authorize the offer.
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Post by ncaam on Dec 29, 2017 8:19:01 GMT -5
As an aside our basketball player AT was faster than 11:20 in the 100m. Those were the days my friends..... I wonder what KR ran the 100m in?
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Post by hcpride on Dec 29, 2017 8:44:33 GMT -5
As an aside our basketball player AT was faster than 11:20 in the 100m. Those were the days my friends..... I wonder what KR ran the 100m in? KR was late-bloomer speed-wise. That is a bit unusual. And hurt HS senior year (probably helped us to land him). Legit D-1 speed in college (10.71 100M, 6.93 60M and super football 40M at 4.34) Often the younger guys (underclassmen) on a college football team can be the fastest. No doubt Chesney has seen our current lack of speed.
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Post by alum on Dec 29, 2017 9:03:53 GMT -5
As an aside our basketball player AT was faster than 11:20 in the 100m. Those were the days my friends..... I wonder what KR ran the 100m in? KR was late-bloomer speed-wise. That is a bit unusual. And hurt HS senior year (probably helped us to land him). Legit D-1 speed in college (10.71 100M, 6.93 60M and super football 40M at 4.34) Often the younger guys (underclassmen) on a college football team can be the fastest. No doubt Chesney has seen our current lack of speed. KR ran 11.30 and 22.14 in high school. AT ran 11.12 in high school Spencer Gilliam, a wide receiver signee, has run 11.09 as a junior so he has some wheels (to use a phrase which seems to have disappeared) as well. Some sprinters have a big jump in college because they lift weights for the first time and others had little to no coaching in high school and have room for improvement on their form and their starts.
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Post by breezy on Dec 29, 2017 12:20:49 GMT -5
Offer #121: TE ROBERT FRENCH, 6-5, 230, Bartram Trail HS, Jacksonville, FL Twitter: @robertfrenchh18 Hudl highlights: www.hudl.com/profile/240717/robert-frenchRated 2* (77) by 247 Sports Has 12 offers, including Penn, Yale, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, WKU, Colgate, Air Force, Davidson, Elon, and Valdosta State. Has visits scheduled to Penn (1/12) and Yale (1/19).
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Post by sader1970 on Dec 29, 2017 17:08:38 GMT -5
I may have asked this before but we have so many offerees being "blessed" to get an offer from Holy Cross. Is this because they think we are still a seminary?
I mean, are they equally "blessed" if they get an offer from Yale or Lehigh or . . . . ?
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Post by breezy on Dec 29, 2017 17:30:43 GMT -5
I'm not going to go back and check, but many recruits we have offered use the same or similar terminology for offers from other schools.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Dec 29, 2017 17:39:11 GMT -5
I may have asked this before but we have so many offerees being "blessed" to get an offer from Holy Cross. Is this because they think we are still a seminary? I mean, are they equally "blessed" if they get an offer from Yale or Lehigh or . . . . ? Blessed = grateful
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