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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Feb 14, 2019 14:39:03 GMT -5
Also re: AU: Mark Gasperini is an academic junior, but will have two potential years of eligibility remaining after this season (medical redshirt last season). Our two freshmen, Jacob Boonyasith and Josh Alexander, aren't starting, but they're in the rotation and contributing; Jacob has won back to back PL Rookie of the Week awards, and Josh got one earlier this season. In addition, guard Jamir Harris (University of Minnesota transfer) will be eligible next season, with three years of eligibility remaining. Thanks, njj. My list was not meant to be comprehensive, but rather just a snipet to show how misguided it is for HC fans to think Carmody should be retained because he landed some type of transformative class that is going to propel HC back to the top of the conference. The reality is that while there are some nice pieces in this HC Sophomore class, there's maybe two that actually have the potential to be 1st or 2nd team all-PL players (Grandison & Green), and that is not going to be enough to overcome all of the shortcomings associated with Carmody's system. Here are sports-reference's O-Ratings and D-Ratings for our sophs in PL games Player= O-Rating & D-Rating= NET
Austin Butler= 110.4 & 107.2= +3.2 Matt Faw= 97.6 & 97.6= 0 Kyle Copeland= 97.5 & 103.6= (6.1) Jacob Grandison= 98.3 & 109.1= (10.8) Caleb Green= 97.7 & 113.0= (15.3)
You've gone on record so many times about AB's shortcomings and game after game he plays well and gives 100%. We understand you have a narrative to promote, but why not try to regain some credibility for yourself by giving Butler the credit his play is due: he's a pretty good basketball player. No doubt you can cite some examples where he has "flown by a three point shooter" or "Lost his man on the baseline" but, you know what, we could say that about any player on any team. Please don't answer with the customary nonsense about "You all think Butler is the second coming of Oscar Robertson". At the very least--look at their stats in PL games and see if they support your POV
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Feb 14, 2019 14:42:14 GMT -5
+1, KY. Butler has been our second best guy during PL play after Floyd.
Butler had a line of 12 / 5 / 4 last night to go along with three steals and zero turnovers.
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Post by possum on Feb 14, 2019 15:08:23 GMT -5
Agree Butler has played well and unlike others has been very consistent in league play. He would get my vote at this point for most improved player.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Feb 14, 2019 15:21:07 GMT -5
Thanks, njj. My list was not meant to be comprehensive, but rather just a snipet to show how misguided it is for HC fans to think Carmody should be retained because he landed some type of transformative class that is going to propel HC back to the top of the conference. The reality is that while there are some nice pieces in this HC Sophomore class, there's maybe two that actually have the potential to be 1st or 2nd team all-PL players (Grandison & Green), and that is not going to be enough to overcome all of the shortcomings associated with Carmody's system. Here are sports-reference's O-Ratings and D-Ratings for our sophs in PL games Player= O-Rating & D-Rating= NET
Austin Butler= 110.4 & 107.2= +3.2 Matt Faw= 97.6 & 97.6= 0 Kyle Copeland= 97.5 & 103.6= (6.1) Jacob Grandison= 98.3 & 109.1= (10.8) Caleb Green= 97.7 & 113.0= (15.3)
You've gone on record so many times about AB's shortcomings and game after game he plays well and gives 100%. We understand you have a narrative to promote, but why not try to regain some credibility for yourself by giving Butler the credit his play is due: he's a pretty good basketball player. No doubt you can cite some examples where he has "flown by a three point shooter" or "Lost his man on the baseline" but, you know what, we could say that about any player on any team. Please don't answer with the customary nonsense about "You all think Butler is the second coming of Oscar Robertson". At the very least--look at their stats in PL games and see if they support your POV 1) I have yet to read an accurate description of D-Rating that would make it a relevant statistic. As of right now, Butler (107.2) has a slightly higher D-Rating than Jehyve Floyd (107.0) -- which should cause the bull$&%* meter go off for anyone who has actually watched the two of them play. There is no computer program that can track a player's impact on the defensive end of the floor. 2) If you want to talk about promoting a “narrative,” the "Austin Butler is a warrior who gives 100% all the time” story is just that. If you actually pay attention to him when he doesn’t have the ball, you would see that it’s just not true. I suggest you watch the final three scoring possessions that Colgate had last night as a prime example to start out – it’s a consistent issue on the defensive end. 3) Butler has had some good offensive games in PL play, and due to the drop off in play from Green & Grandison, he has had the highest output of our guards/wings. What has that gotten us? A 4-9 record and tie for 10th place in the league. If Austin Butler is our best wing, we will never be a top team in the PL. His ideal role on a team is ~15-20 minutes off the bench as an offensive spark.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Feb 14, 2019 15:32:17 GMT -5
+1, KY. Butler has been our second best guy during PL play after Floyd. Butler had a line of 12 / 5 / 4 last night to go along with three steals and zero turnovers. The 4-man guard/wing combo of Burns-Richardson-Ferguson-Rayman combined for 49 points on 55.6% shooting last night, in 121 total minutes (16.2 per 40).
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Feb 14, 2019 15:49:12 GMT -5
+1, KY. Butler has been our second best guy during PL play after Floyd. Butler had a line of 12 / 5 / 4 last night to go along with three steals and zero turnovers. The 4-man guard/wing combo of Burns-Richardson-Ferguson-Rayman combined for 49 points on 55.6% shooting last night, in 121 total minutes (16.2 per 40). So Butler and all of the other guards that played didn't get the job done. Got it.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Feb 16, 2019 16:54:35 GMT -5
Navy beats Army, 79-68, as freshman John Carter scores 26. American up on Colgate, 36-31, at the half. Lehigh leads BU, 24-16, midway through the first half.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Feb 16, 2019 18:17:15 GMT -5
Colgate comes back from five down in the last minute and a half to tie in regulation, then wins it in OT, 83-81.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Feb 19, 2019 19:55:57 GMT -5
Colgate over Bucknell, 37-30, at the half. Bison shooting poorly, nobody really stepping up with Sestina spending most of the stanza on the bench (two fouls). Tucker Richardson very impressive from deep, Ivanauskas a load. for 'gate. Raiders continue to grind games out.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Feb 19, 2019 20:15:31 GMT -5
I continue to be impressed with the roster Langel has been able to cobble together at Colgate.
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Post by lou on Feb 19, 2019 21:40:15 GMT -5
Bison lose two straight PL games for first time in 3 years
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Post by cmo on Feb 20, 2019 9:24:50 GMT -5
Why was game played on a Tuesday ?
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Post by timholycross on Feb 20, 2019 10:39:15 GMT -5
Why was game played on a Tuesday ? Impending bad weather, perhaps? I'm sure Colgate offered refunds to the dozen or so folks that had Wednesday tickets that couldn't make it last night.
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Post by HCFC45 on Feb 20, 2019 13:01:30 GMT -5
Why was game played on a Tuesday ? Impending bad weather, perhaps? I'm sure Colgate offered refunds to the dozen or so folks that had Wednesday tickets that couldn't make it last night. Pretty sure this game was an originally scheduled game! It was there a couple of weeks ago when I was looking ahead at the schedule for the "You Pick" contest!
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Post by sader1970 on Feb 20, 2019 19:51:47 GMT -5
Army up 42-35 vs. Lehigh at the half. AWP was actually up by 12 but poor finish to the half.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Feb 20, 2019 19:52:06 GMT -5
American over Lafayette, 35-29, at the half. Nelson with 11p,3a, 5r to lead the way for AU.
Big Myles Cherry, who's been out for over a month, seeing some minutes off the bench for the Leopards tonight.
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Post by HCFC45 on Feb 20, 2019 20:08:51 GMT -5
Navy at Loyola postponed because of the storm! !
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Post by sader1970 on Feb 20, 2019 20:56:22 GMT -5
Lehigh wins 91-81. Army faded after a nice start.
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Post by HCFC45 on Feb 20, 2019 21:00:33 GMT -5
Lafayette beats American 70 to 68!
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Post by sader1970 on Feb 20, 2019 21:01:16 GMT -5
Laffy wins 70-68 as they hit the winning layup with about 3 seconds left. Fran played it well. Fouled with about 27 seconds left with score tied at 68. One and One and Sa-aed missed the front end. Laffy got the rebound and killed time for a winning shot or OT. They made the shot. American tried a full court final shot that was off the mark.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Feb 20, 2019 21:06:31 GMT -5
Petrie with two drives through the trees for the baskets that tied and won it. He scored Lafayette's final seven points, bringing them back from five down with a minute and a half left.
Fifth straight win for the Leopards, who are starting to look like the team nobody will want to play in the early rounds of the PLT.
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Post by purplehaze on Feb 20, 2019 21:08:01 GMT -5
Maybe I don't understand strategy but please tell me how 'Fran played it well, fouled with about 27 seconds left' . I know Sa-aed missed but who knew that ?
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Post by sader1970 on Feb 20, 2019 21:32:29 GMT -5
Because he wouldn't want the game tied and the opponent getting the last shot for a win or OT. By fouling with a 1&1, at worst, they get a 2 point lead with plenty of time on the clock for a 2 to tie, 3 to win. Or, in the best case scenario (which happened), they miss the first, get the rebound and have plenty of time to set up a play and score and win or miss and go to OT.
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Post by possum on Feb 20, 2019 21:49:52 GMT -5
Don't think many coaches would deliberately foul in a tie game particularly when you're fouling their best player who is a 70% foul shooter. Luckily for Lafayette it worked out.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Feb 20, 2019 22:03:37 GMT -5
Because he wouldn't want the game tied and the opponent getting the last shot for a win or OT. By fouling with a 1&1, at worst, they get a 2 point lead with plenty of time on the clock for a 2 to tie, 3 to win. Or, in the best case scenario (which happened), they miss the first, get the rebound and have plenty of time to set up a play and score and win or miss and go to OT. A very interesting strategy that I don’t think I’ve ever seen before. If you’re not a good defensive team (which certainly applies for Lafayette), I guess there is some logic in putting the game in the hands of your offense rather than your defense. If my probability math is correct, as a 71.5% FT shooter, Nelson had a 51.1% chance of making both free throws, and American was shooting 50% on FGs for the game, so it’s essentially the same probability of them scoring two points and you are now giving your team the chance to tie or take the lead even if he does make both.
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