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Post by classof83 on Mar 8, 2019 13:19:39 GMT -5
One thing I have been curious about.
Niego did not play another game after the Rhode Island game on Dec 8th - 10 games into the season. The next game was against Canisius on Dec 20th. I don't know exactly when he broke his toe, but it has been 12 weeks since Dec 19th - seems like a long time for a toe to heal. If you were a coach worried about your future, wouldn't you want to make sure he got back in time to help the team's chances at the end of the season?
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Post by cmo on Mar 8, 2019 13:33:36 GMT -5
I would not offer an extension and with the current state of small private colleges I wouldn't eat $350K next year either. Barring a compromise, I'd have Carm complete his contract and support him in his family situation...if someone made me King of Holy Cross.😊 1) If Carmody is actually making that much, that would be outrageous. 2) What if we could bring in a guy like Kevin Bettencourt from Endicott, who has been very successful as a head coach, was a very good player in the league, has HC ties through his brother (and even wanted to come to HC but we took Kevin Hamilton and didn't have a schollie for him), and is currently not making much (I assume)? Not only would he provide some much needed life for the program, but we could get him for much, much less than Carmody and even backload his contract with raises and incentives so the money would not need to be too high in year 1 while we're still paying Carmody. Hiring someone with this type of background (and then subsequently paying them less) we'd then theoretically be able to pay a top assistant more. Ideally a more seasoned coach with D1 experience to help with the transition.
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Post by alum on Mar 8, 2019 13:36:24 GMT -5
It's actually around $350,000 including benefits. The base is lower but if we were to hire a new coach, I assume that we would pay even more for a proven winner.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Mar 8, 2019 13:42:24 GMT -5
It's actually around $350,000 including benefits. The base is lower but if we were to hire a new coach, I assume that we would pay even more for a proven winner. There is no reason why we need to pay that much again, let alone more. If we can actually have someone competent running the search this time, we should be in much better shape. For example, we could have had Nathan Davis last time around, and he is making significantly less than Carmody at Bucknell. We don't need to throw more money at the problem. We just need to have someone who has a clue what they're doing (unlike Regan & Pine) who can find the right fit for the job.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Mar 8, 2019 13:57:13 GMT -5
It's actually around $350,000 including benefits. The base is lower but if we were to hire a new coach, I assume that we would pay even more for a proven winner. This is pretty much what Pine did last time around. Fired FCMB and then tossed a ton of money at a "name" coach. We don't need to do that again. We just need to hire a good coach.
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 8, 2019 14:11:22 GMT -5
One thing I have been curious about. Niego did not play another game after the Rhode Island game on Dec 8th - 10 games into the season. The next game was against Canisius on Dec 20th. I don't know exactly when he broke his toe, but it has been 12 weeks since Dec 19th - seems like a long time for a toe to heal. If you were a coach worried about your future, wouldn't you want to make sure he got back in time to help the team's chances at the end of the season? He could now apply to red shirt, if that was something he and the team wanted. It could be a win/win.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Mar 8, 2019 14:21:21 GMT -5
One thing I have been curious about. Niego did not play another game after the Rhode Island game on Dec 8th - 10 games into the season. The next game was against Canisius on Dec 20th. I don't know exactly when he broke his toe, but it has been 12 weeks since Dec 19th - seems like a long time for a toe to heal. If you were a coach worried about your future, wouldn't you want to make sure he got back in time to help the team's chances at the end of the season? He could now apply to red shirt, if that was something he and the team wanted. It could be a win/win. Niego played in 10 games, which is beyond the 20% redshirt limit (6 games).
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Post by classof83 on Mar 8, 2019 14:26:00 GMT -5
One thing I have been curious about. Niego did not play another game after the Rhode Island game on Dec 8th - 10 games into the season. The next game was against Canisius on Dec 20th. I don't know exactly when he broke his toe, but it has been 12 weeks since Dec 19th - seems like a long time for a toe to heal. If you were a coach worried about your future, wouldn't you want to make sure he got back in time to help the team's chances at the end of the season? He could now apply to red shirt, if that was something he and the team wanted. It could be a win/win. With the rules for Graduate Transfers I am not sure CN will be playing that red shirt year at HC - he may decide to got somewhere else (like RJ Evans did when he went to UCONN) and get a year toward a Graduate Degree. That is probably going to be the case for Sestina at Bucknell.
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 8, 2019 14:35:51 GMT -5
That is always a possibility. But, if he likes the program and his team mates he could start planing now for a double major. Did RJ decide not to stay at HC because of FCMB?
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Post by bringbackcaro on Mar 8, 2019 14:46:18 GMT -5
Niego is not eligible to redshirt.
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 8, 2019 14:52:03 GMT -5
YES, he is. I thought you knew the rules, bbc. Putting it in red and large typeface doesn't make your incorrect statement correct. (IIRC he played in 10 of 33 games)
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Post by crosspride on Mar 8, 2019 14:52:56 GMT -5
Niego is not eligible to redshirt. The bold red text is a good way to make that point.
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 8, 2019 14:54:50 GMT -5
Not if it is wrong. Of course, I am not up on the changes of the last season in medical red-shirt rules.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Mar 8, 2019 14:54:56 GMT -5
Here's what one website says about medical redshirting Basic Qualifications To qualify for a medical redshirt, a basketball player must sustain an “incapacitating injury or illness.” The injury or illness does not have to be related to basketball, but must take place after the first day of classes in the athlete’s senior year of high school. To gain a medical redshirt for a specific season, the athlete’s illness or injury must occur before the first game of the second half of the team’s schedule. If the team plays an odd number of games, the exact midseason contest is considered part of the second half. For example, if a basketball team plays 25 games, the injury or illness must occur before the start of the team’s 13th game. Games played in postseason tournaments, such as a conference tournament or the NCAA or NIT tournaments, count among the team’s total games played. Games Played To gain a medical redshirt, the athlete cannot compete in more than 30 percent of her team’s games within a season, not counting contests officially designated as scrimmages or exhibition games. When such computations are made, fractions are rounded up. For example, if a team plays 27 games, the exact 30 percent mark is 8.1. For the purposes of medical redshirt eligibility, therefore, the player may compete in nine games and still be eligible for a medical redshirt. healthyliving.azcentral.com/medical-redshirt-rules-basketball-4185.html
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Post by WorcesterGray on Mar 8, 2019 14:56:53 GMT -5
Paging bison137!
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 8, 2019 15:01:24 GMT -5
Here's what one website says about medical redshirting Basic Qualifications To qualify for a medical redshirt, a basketball player must sustain an “incapacitating injury or illness.” The injury or illness does not have to be related to basketball, but must take place after the first day of classes in the athlete’s senior year of high school. To gain a medical redshirt for a specific season, the athlete’s illness or injury must occur before the first game of the second half of the team’s schedule. If the team plays an odd number of games, the exact midseason contest is considered part of the second half. For example, if a basketball team plays 25 games, the injury or illness must occur before the start of the team’s 13th game. Games played in postseason tournaments, such as a conference tournament or the NCAA or NIT tournaments, count among the team’s total games played. THE INJURY WAS IN THE FIRST HALF OF THE SEASON.Games Played To gain a medical redshirt, the athlete cannot compete in more than 30 percent of her team’s games within a season, not counting contests officially designated as scrimmages or exhibition games. When such computations are made, fractions are rounded up. For example, if a team plays 27 games, the exact 30 percent mark is 8.1. For the purposes of medical redshirt eligibility, therefore, the player may compete in nine games and still be eligible for a medical redshirt. WITH 33 GAMES, HE IS ELIGIBLE WITH ONLY 10 GAMES PLAYED. (30% = 9.9 GAMES - ROUNDED UP TO 10)healthyliving.azcentral.com/medical-redshirt-rules-basketball-4185.html
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Post by bringbackcaro on Mar 8, 2019 15:05:07 GMT -5
Mea culpa, mea culpa, maxima mea culpa!!
Most articles I found were about football (different rules), and each basketball article that I found said it was only 20% of the games, but that must not be current.
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Post by timholycross on Mar 8, 2019 15:09:52 GMT -5
Here's what one website says about medical redshirting Basic Qualifications To qualify for a medical redshirt, a basketball player must sustain an “incapacitating injury or illness.” The injury or illness does not have to be related to basketball, but must take place after the first day of classes in the athlete’s senior year of high school. To gain a medical redshirt for a specific season, the athlete’s illness or injury must occur before the first game of the second half of the team’s schedule. If the team plays an odd number of games, the exact midseason contest is considered part of the second half. For example, if a basketball team plays 25 games, the injury or illness must occur before the start of the team’s 13th game. Games played in postseason tournaments, such as a conference tournament or the NCAA or NIT tournaments, count among the team’s total games played. Games Played To gain a medical redshirt, the athlete cannot compete in more than 30 percent of her team’s games within a season, not counting contests officially designated as scrimmages or exhibition games. When such computations are made, fractions are rounded up. For example, if a team plays 27 games, the exact 30 percent mark is 8.1. For the purposes of medical redshirt eligibility, therefore, the player may compete in nine games and still be eligible for a medical redshirt. healthyliving.azcentral.com/medical-redshirt-rules-basketball-4185.htmlUnlike the yearly (or more) post we get that says HC should be in Division 3 in all sports except basketball and football, which deserves to be answered in red bold, because you can't do that, this one does not. According to that website, 33 games 30% is 9.9 or 10 and he is fine. I wouldn't, however, doubt that somewhere else it states it in a different manner. So let's keep the subject open.
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Post by timholycross on Mar 8, 2019 15:11:19 GMT -5
Mea culpa, mea culpa, maxima mea culpa!!Most articles I found were about football (different rules), and each basketball article that I found said it was only 20% of the games, but that must not be current. 20% is definitely not, it's the calculation that might still be a question about.
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Post by bison137 on Mar 8, 2019 15:33:08 GMT -5
He could now apply to red shirt, if that was something he and the team wanted. It could be a win/win. Niego played in 10 games, which is beyond the 20% redshirt limit (6 games). No. The redshirt limit is 30% and he qualifies. Under the NCAA formula, you take the number of games played by the team (but allowing for only one postseason game), multiply by 30%, and then round up to get the limit. In the case of HC, anyone who played 10 games or fewer is eligible. If you look back, I have posted the exact formula in reference to Niego a few times in the past six weeks.
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Post by bison137 on Mar 8, 2019 15:36:21 GMT -5
YES, he is. I thought you knew the rules, bbc. Putting it in red and large typeface doesn't make your incorrect statement correct. (IIRC he played in 10 of 33 games) It is only 32 games for the purposes of the medical hardship waiver calculation, but he still qualifies. Btw, the rules for this have not changed since July of 2014.
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Post by bison137 on Mar 8, 2019 15:38:55 GMT -5
He could now apply to red shirt, if that was something he and the team wanted. It could be a win/win. With the rules for Graduate Transfers I am not sure CN will be playing that red shirt year at HC - he may decide to got somewhere else (like RJ Evans did when he went to UCONN) and get a year toward a Graduate Degree. That is probably going to be the case for Sestina at Bucknell. Yes, Sestina is definitely not going to be back at Bucknell. He has a number of higher-level offers already, plus a few offers to try out for NFL teams as a tight end.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Mar 8, 2019 15:44:34 GMT -5
1) If Carmody is actually making that much, that would be outrageous. 2) What if we could bring in a guy like Kevin Bettencourt from Endicott, who has been very successful as a head coach, was a very good player in the league, has HC ties through his brother (and even wanted to come to HC but we took Kevin Hamilton and didn't have a schollie for him), and is currently not making much (I assume)? Not only would he provide some much needed life for the program, but we could get him for much, much less than Carmody and even backload his contract with raises and incentives so the money would not need to be too high in year 1 while we're still paying Carmody. Hiring someone with this type of background (and then subsequently paying them less) we'd then theoretically be able to pay a top assistant more. Ideally a more seasoned coach with D1 experience to help with the transition. As much as I hated him as a player, maybe we could pull John Griffin away from Bucknell to work for his former teammate. And then bring back RJ Evans to keep the Bucknell guys honest. Ahhh, at least it's nice to dream....
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Post by hchoops on Mar 8, 2019 15:45:05 GMT -5
Niego will not have the offers of Evans or Sestina, if any.
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Post by alum on Mar 8, 2019 15:45:49 GMT -5
That is always a possibility. But, if he likes the program and his team mates he could start planing now for a double major. Did RJ decide not to stay at HC because of FCMB? Will HC let a student, athlete or otherwise, who has completed the requirements for graduation stay an extra year? It is easier in football to redshirt people because the season is conducted entirely within the fall semester.
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