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Post by WorcesterGray on Jan 27, 2020 11:09:50 GMT -5
Can disagree about positions, I guess, but believe this is where we are at the moment. Didn't include walk-ons, and am presuming Sandy is one.
PG - Johnson, Reilly SG - Wade, Copeland*, Humphrey
SF - Pridgen, Butler, Martindale PF - Faw, Niego, Hargis**
C - Rabinovich, Verbeek
* Out indefinitely, for personal reasons. ** Not listed on roster, as of 1/28/20
2020 Open Offers?
SG Jalen "Bo" Montgomery (TN - Lausanne Collegiate School), 6-5. Offers from Howard, Campbell PF Tyson Brown (VA - Massanutten Military Academy), 6-8. Offers from Robert Morris, Fairfield, Towson
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Post by hc6774 on Jan 27, 2020 11:42:58 GMT -5
It would be different if you used NLI signings
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Post by classof83 on Jan 27, 2020 11:43:21 GMT -5
As I understand it, Niego and maybe Copeland could red-shirt. Someone can correct me if I am wrong.
Any indication that either are looking at red-shirting as an option?
If they do decide to red shirt (and HC agrees), when does the decision need to be made?
I would think BN would want to know their intentions for planning purposes.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 27, 2020 11:48:20 GMT -5
SF trio listed above prompts a question. We’re going to want 30+ minutes from both Butler and Pridgen and Martindale seems high potential—-so that trio will be playing many minutes at another position:
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Post by HC92 on Jan 27, 2020 11:54:38 GMT -5
If Humphrey plays some point guard, that would allow one of the guys listed as SF to slot over and play the 2 when Wade is not in the game.
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Post by hchoops on Jan 27, 2020 12:13:22 GMT -5
And although not ideal, Joe P could get minutes at the 4 as he has frequently this year
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Post by Ray on Jan 27, 2020 12:16:15 GMT -5
Posts above really underscore my takeaway from this list: the emergence of this kind of depth and flexibility is going to be really exciting, and give the coaching staff the ability to vary things stylistically or matchup-wise.
This roster could be a really tough matchup by the time PL play comes around in January 2021.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 27, 2020 12:19:59 GMT -5
If Mike Rabinovich is ready to contribute a lot as a freshman we can make a move forward
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Post by WorcesterGray on Jan 27, 2020 12:21:09 GMT -5
Rabinovich remains the key guy for me - how much can he give us in his first year as the one true big, especially at the defensive end? (Edit: What KY said . . . )
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Post by Tom on Jan 27, 2020 12:35:09 GMT -5
As I understand it, Niego and maybe Copeland could red-shirt. Someone can correct me if I am wrong. Any indication that either are looking at red-shirting as an option? If they do decide to red shirt (and HC agrees), when does the decision need to be made? I would think BN would want to know their intentions for planning purposes. There is a rumor around campus that Copeland is looking for a red shirt. However, I'm not sure I believe it. In order to get a medical waiver you need to be actually injured. He missed the beginning of the season, but came back to play. No one has said he got injured again. Niego I think is eligible to apply. He played in ten of 33 games which put him right at the max limit to still be able to play. If either or both wanted to do this and use that 5th year at HC, they would need to act quickly to pick up a double major. Of course they could apply and use the extra year for grad school like RJ
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Post by efg72 on Jan 27, 2020 12:36:11 GMT -5
I think the addition of Rabinovich and others along with the offseason development of Faw and Niego hold the keys to success for next year. The spring and summer will give us a glimpse into the development program Coach Nelson establishes for individual players. And of course if Faw and Niego could gain 10-12 lbs and get stronger that would be another plus.
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Post by ericobeyyourthirst on Jan 27, 2020 12:37:49 GMT -5
I recently heard a quote from Brad Stevens that talked about the key to preventing interior buckets is to not allow them near the paint. Both interior and perimeter defense needs help, but we had a great shot blocker in Floyd last year and still allowed teams to shoot a high percentage inside the three point line. I hope Rabinovich helps with the interior defense, but I think the real key is with our wings/on ball pressure.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Jan 27, 2020 12:41:47 GMT -5
I hope one of the newbies likes the press as Joe P. seems to!
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Post by efg72 on Jan 27, 2020 13:00:13 GMT -5
I hope one of the newbies likes the press as Joe P. seems to! Hope so as well- Pressure allows us to speed up the game, score off our defense and cover up any of our half court liabilities
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Post by Ignutz on Jan 27, 2020 13:01:36 GMT -5
I hope one of the newbies likes the press as Joe P. seems to! Someone needs to break out some old videos of Chris Potter on the press. Chris obviously didn’t give a rat’s behind about how goofy he looked with his arms all over the place in the face of the player trying to inbound the ball. I’ve seen plenty of players at all levels in that position over the years, but none as manic as Potter - and, not surprisingly, none as successful.
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Post by hchoops on Jan 27, 2020 13:05:38 GMT -5
Goofy ??
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Post by bringbackcaro on Jan 27, 2020 14:01:36 GMT -5
SF trio listed above prompts a question. We’re going to want 30+ minutes from both Butler and Pridgen and Martindale seems high potential—-so that trio will be playing many minutes at another position: Unless Butler makes a big jump in the offseason, we may have already seen his ceiling. Pridgen has already exceeded that ceiling. Wade has the opportunity to make a big frosh-soph jump, and if Martindale and/or Bubba H are on a level at or near Pridgen (certainly a high bar, but Martindale was a more highly sought after recruit FWIW), 30+ minutes is not guaranteed for Butler.
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Post by hchoops on Jan 27, 2020 14:05:05 GMT -5
Austin may be more effective with slightly fewer minutes
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Post by hc17 on Jan 27, 2020 14:20:16 GMT -5
For those that have seen Mike R., how does he compare to Niego and Faw?
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 27, 2020 14:36:56 GMT -5
BBC—-
You keep throwing good money after bad....
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Post by timholycross on Jan 27, 2020 14:44:33 GMT -5
I hope one of the newbies likes the press as Joe P. seems to! Someone needs to break out some old videos of Chris Potter on the press. Chris obviously didn’t give a rat’s behind about how goofy he looked with his arms all all over the place in the face of the player trying to inbound the ball. I’ve seen plenty of players at all levels in that position over the years, but none as manic as Potter - and, not surprisingly, none as successful. I would love to see something where they published the reach of a person in addition to his/her height. My guess is Potter at 6-7 was in effect 2-3 inches taller. Re: Old Videos. Does someone have any video of him playing? The only old films I've seen of Holy Cross basketball prior to 1990 are the following: 1. Clips of the 1947 title game 2. The 1954 NIT 3. A Joe Mullaney TV tribute that showed a few shots of the NIT semifinal overtime loss 4. The BC/Holy Cross game in 1978-79 that was part of the 30-for-30 show about BC point shaving.
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Post by DiMarz on Jan 27, 2020 14:46:39 GMT -5
For those that have seen Mike R., how does he compare to Niego and Faw? Mike R. is going to help, maybe not at the jump, but I'd guess by the time the PL season starts..He is a solid player, shoots well from 15 feet in, rebounds, passes it well and seems to have a good defensive IQ from what I have seen...I think we will see improvement in his game as we have with Wades game this season...I'd like to see Mike get in teh gym and put on 15 pounds or so..He isn't built like Blake, but he is no Joe P...The times I have seen him play, he doesn't get pushed around inside, and has a decent post game.....
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Post by bringbackcaro on Jan 27, 2020 14:59:11 GMT -5
BBC—- You keep throwing good money after bad.... Because your stance on Butler is validated, how? In your previous post you said "we're going to want 30+ from Butler..." as if you know that's what the coaching staff also wants. Is that true?
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 27, 2020 15:50:27 GMT -5
BBC—- You keep throwing good money after bad.... Because your stance on Butler is validated, how?
In your previous post you said "we're going to want 30+ from Butler..." as if you know that's what the coaching staff also wants. Is that true? My stance on Butler (that he is a valuable part of the team, a good D-1 basketball player) is validated by his performance on the court I'm not in contact with the coaching staff, but I'm guessing you must be. In my case the "we" refers to the collective group of Holy Cross fans.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Jan 27, 2020 17:23:26 GMT -5
For those that have seen Mike R., how does he compare to Niego and Faw? I like Rabinovich a little better than Dimarz does (will be watching him again in person Wednesday afternoon). Yes, he could stand to bulk up some, but he already has a bigger frame than either Faw or Niego, a pretty strong upper body, and looks both more comfortable down low and more fundamentally sound there than either MF or CN. He is an inside player who can pop out to take a three - not a stretch forward trying to adapt his outside game to inside play.
I like the intangibles, too. Unlike Martindale (who's more of a natural, a little cocky and flamboyant, too), Rabinovich is more business-like on the court, a lunch-bucket guy, who looks like he's had to work hard to get to the level he's at. He repeats his mechanics impressively, a sign that he's well-drilled and very coachable, imho.
The biggest concern I have with him is stamina. He gets up and down the floor well, but gets a little gassed after ten minutes or so - the game will speed up for him here, so not sure what kind of minutes he'll be able to give us as a freshman. Very bullish on him long-term as a legitimate and productive big in this conference.
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